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In reply to the discussion: How to know that you hate women [View all]mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)to cast me as some who is defending Ray, and also someone who is abusive to women. I have not defended Ray at all, and feel free to go over anything I've written and show where I did defend him. The only reason you seem to think that I'm abusive to women is that I'm not agreeing with your blanket statement that he just "hates women," and what's even more interesting is that, as you keep saying that I'm defending Ray, that's your basis for your claim that I also hate women and are abusive to them.
So essentially, you're making something up about me as justification to claim that I'm abusive, and it all seems to be because I'm not agreeing with your simple explanation that Rice hates women. Why is it that you need to do that - what need in you is it filling? I'm guessing that, having been in an abusive relationship, it's easier to see people as being totally with you, or totally against you. Seeing the shades of grey, or even seeing someone's argument against you belief that Rice just hates women, would complicate things greatly - kind of like when Bush said, "You're either with us or against us." In that case, he said that to give people an easy choice, to either support him or be a terrorist, such that most people would blindly follow him and not question what he was doing. It seems like you are also trying to divide people up as being either totally and unquestioningly supportive of you and your positions, or totally against you and hating women.
The problem with that thinking is that there are a lot of grey areas. A lot of men don't hate women, but feel threatened by them. Sometimes it's because the man's worth is determined by how well he can take care of his woman, so if she's earning money, her need for him is less. Some men are threatened by that. I imagine Rice feels like his physical strength is his self-worth. But there are a lot of different causes for men to be violent, and there are a lot of cultural aspects that cause men to be violent. It's not simple hatred of women, and calling it that prevents us from dealing the the real causes and actually making progress.