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fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
42. This has nothing to do with anything
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

Russia has had bad governments. Her people suffered under all of them and the punishing climate. Communism improved lives over the aristocracies in that they got more education, but lost personal freedom, speech, property, etc. Russians know all about hard times.

Still they have a culture that supports the arts and are not characterized as barbarians.
When my dad was a soldier in WWI, he came into contact with Russian soldiers, not sure of how, being forced to fight when the Germans marched into town making all young men fight for them. He passed on a fondness for the Russians, his admiration for their friendliness, music and dancing. Must have been when WWI ended, during pre-Iron Curtain times when countries bordering Russia were not swallowed like after WWII.

We lived in Arlington in the 60's, went to see the Soviet Army Chorus sing and dance live on stage, in DC, and they were awesome, and their national anthem is teary...

I wish they'd have a respite from trouble and that their government would allow personal choices (gays, religion, race, etc.) that it would fear other nations' aggression less, which is why they fear NATO on their doorstep. Russia has no trust because of experience with all governments.. Ukraine should get more of the American contact she so desires....

I hope Russia comes out of this okay. Gawd knows her people have suffered enough because of government corruption and stupidity. Didn't some goofy Russian president give away the Crimea when it was full of Russians? I don't know much about the Russia's history, and am going to read up on it....also have to read up on Ukraine's history and stop relying on Teevee.

The New York Times??? malaise Sep 2014 #1
Character Assassins love social media. Octafish Sep 2014 #30
AND it can be automated! nashville_brook Sep 2014 #32
Smear Once. Use Often. Octafish Sep 2014 #40
Parry. LOL...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #2
What we both know is coming in 3...2...1... NuclearDem Sep 2014 #7
Yup. 'Robert Parry is one of the most credible journalists in the world... SidDithers Sep 2014 #8
"Same shit, different day. Sid." Karmadillo Sep 2014 #11
Lol, I was counting, 1,2,3, wait for it, wait for it! You too? Is the sky blue, does the sun rise sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #13
it never ceases to amaze me how SURE people can be about nashville_brook Sep 2014 #35
Exactly, the US Media was totally wrong about Iraq, and Parry was right. It is amazing that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #43
And there it is... SidDithers Sep 2014 #29
You predicted Nuclear Dem's posts also? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #44
Fringe lunatics like Parry should be embarrassed... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #3
Thank you for your response. Could you please specify what Parry is making up Karmadillo Sep 2014 #4
Those Nazi attackes on Russians... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #5
I think you mistyped Poroshenko reorg Sep 2014 #9
Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists Karmadillo Sep 2014 #12
Maybe you should try pulling your head out of the TV? MattSh Sep 2014 #34
What did he make up? It appears now that even the MSM has found their conscience, and are beginning sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #14
Those Russian troops are just on vacation! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #6
You mean like two US Senators and members of the State Dept were just 'passing through' on THEIR sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #15
OFFS sabrina. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #18
Every thread about Russia IS about the US. Do you know how much money we are spending over there? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #19
OFFS. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #39
This has nothing to do with anything fadedrose Sep 2014 #42
" . . . you seem to pop up in nearly every thread about it . . . " Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #20
It's absolutely NOT a coincidence. See my response to that post and you won't need to guess why sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #33
And how many Blackstone/Xe/Academi are over there? MattSh Sep 2014 #36
He once wrote some great articles about how Bush and his cronies are douchebags! zappaman Sep 2014 #10
I know I've been asking this question and cannot get an answer. We know you don't like any of the sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #16
Russia has deployed Chechens to fight. Igel Sep 2014 #17
Cancelled Gay Pride in Kyiv Signals Conservative Shift in Ukraine reorg Sep 2014 #21
Putin supporters pretending to care about GLBT rights. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #24
Sidestepping the N-word reorg Sep 2014 #25
There are Nazis everywhere. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #27
Look far right, and look right again reorg Sep 2014 #22
The big lie from the Russian fascists' propaganda machine. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #23
Please tell us which European government reorg Sep 2014 #26
Do you consider Russia part of Europe? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #28
Ukraine is the first country where Neonazis joined a government coalition reorg Sep 2014 #45
Get back to us after the parliamentary elections. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #46
"Parry is a fascist bootlicker." nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #37
Putin is a fascist. Parry licks his boots geek tragedy Sep 2014 #38
There are a whole lot of Parrys out there reporting exactly what he is reporting. I guess all of sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #47
Russia is a state sponsor of Nazism in Europe geek tragedy Sep 2014 #31
I pity the people of Ukraine. JEB Sep 2014 #41
Even when Parry's not completely wrong, he still comes off as the huge hypocrite that he is. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #48
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