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In reply to the discussion: Robert Parry: Who’s Telling the ‘Big Lie’ on Ukraine? [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)109. No, and here is what Putin actually said
in·va·sion
noun \in-ˈvā-zhən\
Definition of INVASION
1 : an act of invading; especially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2 : the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
Invasion
An invasion is a military offensive in which large parts of combatants of one geopolitical entity aggressively enter territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of either conquering, liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country, altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government, or a combination thereof.
The armed men in military uniform without insignia, dubbed the little green men or the polite people, who were present in Crimea before and during the referendum there, were Russian troops, Vladimir Putin acknowledged speaking at a Q&A session with on Thursday. The president said he never concealed the fact from his foreign counterparts, and explained to them that it was the only way to ensure the referendum on the regions status would be carried out peacefully.
Crimean self-defense forces were of course backed by Russian servicemen, Putin said. They acted very appropriately, but as Ive already said decisively and professionally. ...
"It was impossible in any other way to ensure the open, honest and decent way for people to express their opinion," the president said.
He explained that measures taken by Russia in Crimea prevented the situation there from developing the way it does now in the south and east of Ukraine.
We had to do it, the president said, so that there would be no tanks, no nationalist military units and heavily armed people with radical views.
http://rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/
Crimean self-defense forces were of course backed by Russian servicemen, Putin said. They acted very appropriately, but as Ive already said decisively and professionally. ...
"It was impossible in any other way to ensure the open, honest and decent way for people to express their opinion," the president said.
He explained that measures taken by Russia in Crimea prevented the situation there from developing the way it does now in the south and east of Ukraine.
We had to do it, the president said, so that there would be no tanks, no nationalist military units and heavily armed people with radical views.
http://rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/
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Regarding your first paragraph...we sure do have a 'gaggle' of those around here.
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#1
Well, that doesn't refute anything in the article. What is he wrong about? He's not the only one
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#33
We are talking about his excellent work throughout the BUSH years, which airc, were just a few years
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#34
Great, so if I see a Waaahhhhhhhh in the Ukraine article I'll know where it came from.
NuclearDem
Sep 2014
#30
Why is the Kiev government killing its own people? The world is appalled at the carnage being
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#35
I assume because the modern concept of a "good journalist" utterly precludes him
reddread
Sep 2014
#21
I assume you are being rhetorical. There were a lot of "good journalists" when they were critical
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#24
What should have knocked some sense of reality into their heads was Biden fracking Ukraine.
Octafish
Sep 2014
#61
"What should have knocked some sense of reality into their heads", you are looking at it
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#68
Like Robert Parry, Don Fulsom is a top journalist covering crimes of the State.
Octafish
Sep 2014
#70
He got it right on Bush/Cheney too. He has made enemies for his reporting on that criminal
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#36
Depending how you mean that, it's a good assessment. The neocons are the Putinistas
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#44
Yes an unprovoked war of aggression. That term has a specific meaning in terms of international law
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#48
We didn't engage in one in the Ukraine situation. You are justifying GWb's invasion of Iraq if
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#50
No dancing. You are apologizing for an unprovoked war of aggression, just like in Iraq. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#54
Nope, you are engaging in apologia for an unprovoked war of aggression. Simple as that. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#76
Nope, you are engaging in fear mongering and jingoism. Easy peasy, works like a charm.
JEB
Sep 2014
#87
This is why you lose credibility on this subject. No one invaded Crimea. It is an insult to the
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#38
That is a link to part of the Western MSM which is hardly a reliable source. Russia always had
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#60
There's that condescension again. I am saying one thing, the Western Media is not reliable any more
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#82
No media is totally reliable, and especially after they have been caught lying over and over again.
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#69
Clearly you have no idea as to the events of the mob riots in Odessa...
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#118
Exactly, thank you, at least YOU know why they didn't invade Crimea. Was that comment intended
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#59
LMFAO! EU is to blame for Russia's war of aggression BC they proposed an association with Ukraine!
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#32
Yeah, they said that about him when he was writing about the Cheney/Bush criminal administration
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#39
Your entire post is debunked by the Russians themselves admitting their troops are there.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#81
Reading is fundamental. Ten soldiers were CAPTURED. Surely you understand the difference, right? nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#114
LMAO, the lies and sad justifications from Putin and his apologists are pathetic and
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#127
I don't post fiction. I have citations that prove the facts underlying my positions. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#77
If one accepts all that at face value, it does not justify an unprovoked war of aggression by Russia
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#84
After reading Parry's piece again, I'm even more astonished how idiotic it is.
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#63
You show me the evidence as to how the US actually executed the forcible removal of Yanukovych....
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#79
The irony is, even if the US completely put the uprising up to it, it does not justify Russia's
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#85
If word out of the mouths of US State Department officials won't do it, perhaps you need new media.
Octafish
Sep 2014
#90
Someone in the State Department confessed to forcibly removing Yanukovych from power?
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#92
You mean like the Iraq war that every DUer disagreed with including zappaman? nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#117
Check out Octafish's responses throughout the thread from #107 down. Its deliberate.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#139
You are accusing some DUers of being in favor of the Iraq war? You need proof otherwise?
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#129
You accused Zappaman of not being against anything the BFEE does. Iraq was one of those things.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#132
Your post #107 is only a few above this. Its not like its from another OP.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#134
You suggested Zappaman didnt object to anything about the BFEE. Which he did and obviously so.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#138
We both object to what the BFEE did with Iraq. As I have already told you and was proven.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#142
Its in post #123 above. Once again, how many times do we have to post something before it sinks in
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#146
All I've ever seen is references to a phone call. One that happened weeks before Yanukovych left.
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#111
When we source something, you ignore it and claim several posts later it wasnt sourced.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#144
Really? Like... does a source become invalid if more than one person cites it?
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#151
What provides plausible deniability? The video of Yanukovych packing up and leaving?
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2014
#165
The CIA’S Mop-Up Man: LA Times Reporter Cleared Stories with Agency before Publication
Octafish
Sep 2014
#179
And that shows you exactly what's going on here. An unprovoked war of aggression by Russia they
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#115
Nothing about the US will justify an unprovoked war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#171