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frazzled

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53. This is the New Yorker article you need to read
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:27 PM
Aug 2014

Out just this past week: long but extremely comprehensive, fair, and well documented. Fans of Vandana Shiva will likely not be happy about it. There are dozens of paragraphs that could be quoted here. But really, it won't help those who are determined to maintain their ideas. For those more open-minded and inquisitive, read the whole thing, here:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/25/seeds-of-doubt

The Problem with G.M.O. Labels [View all] ZombieHorde Aug 2014 OP
The planet is overpopulated, screw GMOs, and I want full disclosure on my products' labels. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #1
Churches have been trying to stop people from fucking for a long time now. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #3
reposting this up here - a response to Specter, including a note from the editor Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #78
Especially "Food and Drugs"! Cha Aug 2014 #6
Selective starvation? Who decides? You? nt meaculpa2011 Aug 2014 #40
Wealth, duh. J/K sarcasm. In fact, Nature decides. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #41
Wow, putting the question of GMO safety aside ... frazzled Aug 2014 #52
The alternative, YOUR alternative, is "whatever, let's breed and fuck the planet, just feed us." NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #61
It's not okay to let people starve. That is not the solution. kcr Aug 2014 #64
"Labeling GMOs will severely hinder their development" Cha Aug 2014 #2
How else will we be able to feed all the humans? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #4
The corporate bullshit coming from the toxic GMO Co is pathetic. I won't be a part of their Cha Aug 2014 #5
You can't buy bananas in Hawaii? ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #20
Apple bananas can be bought easily in Hawaii, and they are awesome! Much tastier than that bland peacebird Aug 2014 #28
I assume that ZombieHorde is referring to the modified nature of bananas (and all foods) in general. randome Aug 2014 #42
"Toxic GMO." HuckleB Sep 2014 #65
Copy China nationalize the fed Aug 2014 #11
I hope China does well, and avoids more mass starvations. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #18
China is also working on its own GMOs. So, then, all right. HuckleB Sep 2014 #67
So make that argument instead of trying to hide it Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #7
Or as those on the right always like to say rurallib Aug 2014 #12
+1 BuddhaGirl Aug 2014 #15
"you're opposing the right of consumers to know what's in their food" ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #19
"anti-science people" Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #86
Just put "May Contain GMO Ingredients" on every single product. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #8
My objection is the Round up ready part. If they're that damn tough, they can do without it. EOM. freshwest Aug 2014 #9
This is not just about health eridani Aug 2014 #10
Good point. People should be able to reject them for their own reasons. nt pnwmom Aug 2014 #24
If GMOs are so great... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #13
'Cause they're big giant coporation chickenshit$. bok bok And, we have people defending Cha Aug 2014 #21
What GMOs actually are and people's perceptions of GMOs are so far apart, alp227 Aug 2014 #31
Whatever happened to... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #32
The marketplace can't make a decision of something it's ignorant of. alp227 Aug 2014 #33
Thank you for making my argument for me. ljm2002 Aug 2014 #35
Consumers are already ignorant of what a GMO is in the first place. alp227 Aug 2014 #36
Typical elitist BS. n/t ljm2002 Aug 2014 #39
Funny, when it came to scientific issues... NuclearDem Aug 2014 #46
Uh, sure... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #48
No, creationists react to people with better understanding of the subject NuclearDem Aug 2014 #49
Dodging the issue, I see... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #50
Actually, the more batshit of the anti-GMO crowd shot labeling efforts in the foot. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #51
Because the rabid anti-science fringe who can't separate science from economics NuclearDem Aug 2014 #44
I can't tell if you're joking or not. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #47
Jayzoo, Monsanto must be desperate. Shitty propaganda piece. A huge tell is this: Zorra Aug 2014 #14
+100 G_j Aug 2014 #17
Concur. immoderate Aug 2014 #30
Just because a silly website says so doesn't make it true. alp227 Aug 2014 #37
Let people who want to use it as a selling point label their produce as "GMO free". Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #16
The GMO producers have even fought that. They don't think foods should be allowed to be pnwmom Aug 2014 #23
That's allowed. It's a non argument. HuckleB Sep 2014 #81
That's the same dumb argument they had against ingredient labeling in general, which they fought pnwmom Aug 2014 #22
I hope you're right. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #38
She's not right. HuckleB Sep 2014 #82
Why is it frustrated_lefty Aug 2014 #25
Maybe because nothing, NOTHING will convince those with anti-GMO views. alp227 Aug 2014 #55
...and your Monsanto buddies are no better than the tobacco companies. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #56
not a valid comparison alp227 Aug 2014 #57
The tobacco companies hid evidence of harm for decades. The also fought labeling when U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #58
You left off the sarcasm tag. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #26
GMO staved off third world starvation. Google Norman Borlaug, The Man Who Saved A Billion Lives. n/t X_Digger Aug 2014 #60
Why do you pro-labeling folks hate science? U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #27
Bag this with "organic food isn't healthier for you". MH1 Aug 2014 #29
Specter is the author of a book on science denialism. alp227 Aug 2014 #34
GMO labeling is being pushed hard by the organic lobby. Archae Aug 2014 #43
GMO labeling is being fought by Big AG & Monsato. Who has more $$$? U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #59
Same reason. Archae Aug 2014 #63
If people want to pay more for GMO free foods, they should be able to. pnwmom Sep 2014 #72
Well, we (or, at least the GMO industry) can't leave decisions to the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #45
Of course we can - that's what letting people label food "GM free" entails. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #68
This is the New Yorker article you need to read frazzled Aug 2014 #53
Monsanto apologist article marions ghost Sep 2014 #69
Denial is a river in ... frazzled Sep 2014 #70
Excuse me while I marions ghost Sep 2014 #73
GMOs kill people. Growing GMOs will promote their development, which will lead to great suffering. Chathamization Aug 2014 #54
Are you saying GMOs kill people? HuckleB Sep 2014 #66
Err...no. "Yeah, it's pretty easy to make baseless claims." It's baseless claim, like in the OP. Chathamization Sep 2014 #74
This topic went well. lol closeupready Aug 2014 #62
Labeling of GMOs won't hinder their development. That's a myth. pnwmom Sep 2014 #71
It is a matter of consumer awareness marions ghost Sep 2014 #75
If so, why don't the consumers make themselves aware of the science? HuckleB Sep 2014 #85
Consumers who have the time and ability marions ghost Sep 2014 #87
If GMOs are so great, why do they have to be sprayed roody Sep 2014 #76
Exactly A Little Weird Sep 2014 #79
And herbicides marions ghost Sep 2014 #88
Here's a response Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #77
Uh, can you prove that the article on Shiva is wrong? HuckleB Sep 2014 #80
You're incorrect about what permaculture is. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #83
No, I'm not wrong. HuckleB Sep 2014 #84
So you're not obligated to read links, but your opponents are. closeupready Sep 2014 #89
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