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polly7

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89. So, he's not actually 'waving' the knife anymore?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:53 PM
Aug 2014

Yelling 'shoot me' isn't cause for anyone with functioning gray matter to actually do it, and he wasn't approaching them, it looked like he was walking around them when they shot the first time and knocked him down 'within seconds reach' then immediately emptied the rest of their bullets into him. Did they pause at all and see if the knife had fallen from his hand - if he'd been disarmed? Nope! They just shot until they knew he'd be dead. Then cuffed him .......... why??? To make it appear as if they'd been rolling around on the pavement with him or something? Why cuff a dead man? CYA, that's why.

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Your claims of what happened are far more dishonest Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #1
Witnesses confirmed the knife. Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #4
We have video and we can see what happened Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #5
They should have let him keep coming to stab them? Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #6
There is no evidence he was going to stab them Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #8
No evidence? Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #9
The video shows him several feet away when he was shot Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #11
Police training is to not allow anyone with a knife within 21 feet Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #12
Once again the video shows no knife Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #17
I have an extra large monitor Generic Other Aug 2014 #37
why not try a supposed non-lethal weapon like a taser first? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #55
Tazers are excellent tools to be used in such situations if practical Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #58
and Deadly force WASNT needed in this case...deadly force should ONLY be used VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #63
Many departments don't issue tazers of only issue tazers to supervisors or select officers Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #65
Hello? Doesn't that ring any bells at all with you? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #66
MRADs are free Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #69
Do they require upkeep? Does that cost money? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #71
For some departments, upkeep is relatively inexpensive Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #72
In order for a taser to be effective, it has to be in the cop's hand instead of a pistol. arcane1 Aug 2014 #67
EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #73
Come on....a mentally deranged individual with a pocket knife... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #74
Exactly!!!!!! They are here to protect the mentally ill. Those cops were terrible. Could have zonkers Aug 2014 #78
I'm sorry, but I wouldn't pintobean Aug 2014 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #75
Ignoring their pleas???? Punkingal Aug 2014 #102
He didn't have his knife hand raised, as the police claimed, assuming there was a knife. pnwmom Aug 2014 #97
OK Feral Child Aug 2014 #85
The "Knife Rule" is 21 feet, doncha know? moriah Aug 2014 #68
Why bulletS? Why wasn't the first bullet (or two) plenty to make this man not a threat? pnwmom Aug 2014 #99
The thugification of black men on DU continues unabated. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #2
This is simple, if the man is white and wearing dockers and Gucci on a street in BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #60
Woooo be afraid etherealtruth Aug 2014 #80
Maybe police should learn to fight by hand in some cases world wide wally Aug 2014 #3
In some cases Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #7
merely being armed with a deadly weapon is not a capital offense. unblock Aug 2014 #15
yeah because as usualy, killing the black guy is really the only option. unblock Aug 2014 #10
if someone says 'shoot me', does it not indicate that this person is in the middle of a La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #13
If he was sitting on the curb yelling shoot me -- of course Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #16
in any situation, shooting a man without attempting to really de-escalate the situation La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #19
walking. yeah, that pretty much leaves no option. no way the officer could out-walk him. unblock Aug 2014 #21
So you're of the opinion that walking toward police and saying "shoot me" is rational behavior? Erose999 Aug 2014 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #54
What? Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #57
haha, you act as though their job was to serve and protect. unblock Aug 2014 #18
lol. i know. so silly of me. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #20
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #53
There is no knife wielded in the video. Iron Man Aug 2014 #14
He pulls the knife out of his pocket at 1:26 Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #23
Yeah, he deserved to be shot 7 or 8 times because he was holding Iron Man Aug 2014 #24
If you come at anyone, cop or not, swinging a knife Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #25
It's clear the victim needed mental help. Iron Man Aug 2014 #26
So had he been coming at you Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #27
Isn't there a reason that tasers exist? Iron Man Aug 2014 #36
I am tired of typing it over and over Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #38
But shooting a person a dozen times is viable? Iron Man Aug 2014 #39
When a taser cant reliably be employed Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #40
Murder is a-okay then. Iron Man Aug 2014 #41
When someone is coming at you with a knife Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #42
8 or 9 times in the space of a few seconds? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #81
You shoot until the threat is stopped Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #82
And that's exactly the attitude I don't want in armed people. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #86
Its always good to try and deescalate Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #91
Why was it necessary to escalate force though? Who in that video was in any immediate danger? Erose999 Aug 2014 #45
Who was in danger? Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #46
Who was in danger Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #84
So, he's not actually 'waving' the knife anymore? polly7 Aug 2014 #89
many departments dont allow tazers Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #95
He wasn't "swinging" the knife. And he was no threat at all after the first gun shot. pnwmom Aug 2014 #98
You told me he was waving it at them. polly7 Aug 2014 #33
Check you glasses Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #34
I don't wear glasses, but his arm doesn't appear to me to be moving from side to side at all. nt. polly7 Aug 2014 #35
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #96
I don't understand cwydro Aug 2014 #22
because they didnt have tazers Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #28
Tazers can kill people???? Punkingal Aug 2014 #104
This man was mentally I'll..... FarPoint Aug 2014 #29
+1 iscooterliberally Aug 2014 #32
If they had to shoot him Piscatarian Aug 2014 #30
Shooting to wound is inconsistent with proper police training and procedure Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #31
Rec'd your own thread I see. Kingofalldems Aug 2014 #44
I'm awesome Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #47
The hips aren't those attributes though... police need to be more accurate uponit7771 Aug 2014 #49
Neither is shooting more bullets than you need to. He wasn't armed with a gun so he wasn't pnwmom Aug 2014 #101
Hopalong Cassidy, The Lone Ranger, Annie Oakley, even Tonto could shoot the weapon... immoderate Aug 2014 #70
They couldn't shoot him in the legs? tia uponit7771 Aug 2014 #48
Center Mass ksoze Aug 2014 #50
Center mass is military training... I remember that from boot camp uponit7771 Aug 2014 #52
I have family in the rcmp ..... I remember hearing of how, in basic training polly7 Aug 2014 #61
Two different shootings ksoze Aug 2014 #62
I can see where the bystanders are in the video. polly7 Aug 2014 #64
This is army training. He's not the enemy. Why pump multiple bullets into him after pnwmom Aug 2014 #103
No, that isn't proper police procedure for reasons listed in this thread. Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #51
... center mass is military lingo... I'm seeing all kinds of wrongs with this thinking uponit7771 Aug 2014 #56
The reasons apply for LE as well Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #59
These cops didn't even try to talk him down Warpy Aug 2014 #76
Did you not hear them talking? JJChambers Aug 2014 #83
I heard an order Warpy Aug 2014 #87
Tell me Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #92
When he charges. Warpy Aug 2014 #93
I am so sorry for the disturbance in you pretty little world. ret5hd Aug 2014 #77
how sad Catherine Vincent Aug 2014 #88
Actually you can hear them asking him to drop the knife as he is approaching them JJChambers Aug 2014 #94
He put the cans down on the curb and waited for the police to arrive - he knew what he was doing. Justice Aug 2014 #90
No. I don't think he was shot over two cans of soda. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #100
Anyone who doesn't follow police instructions is asking for trouble. Kablooie Aug 2014 #105
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