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HuckleB

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72. Unless you want to label every form of hybrid, there is NO justification.

Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:13 PM

Aug 2014

GMOs are more predictable. They are studied ad nauseum more than any other form of plant.

And yet political fear-mongering continues.

This is not about politics, except that bad fear mongering politics have been used in order to scare people over BS. There's no conservative/liberal issue here. It's about reality vs. fiction-based fear mongering.

Challenge yourself. I did.

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A few questions for the anti GMO crowd [View all] Quixote1818 Aug 2014 OP

No and no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #1

My store sells sustainably grown beef that have been trying to be certified non-GMO killbotfactory Aug 2014 #42

Don't even get me started on non-natives :P Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #47

It won't be because all domesticated whistler162 Aug 2014 #63

LMK when you addreas the "labeling crowd" jberryhill Aug 2014 #2

Actually, the answer to 'What is wrong with labeling GMO food?' is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #4

Lowering the amount of mycotoxins in the food we consume is a good thing since DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #3

What if TexasProgresive Aug 2014 #5

It's worse than that. Mariana Aug 2014 #7

except that hasn't happened.... mike_c Aug 2014 #9

Your post comfirms what I said. Mariana Aug 2014 #16

and an asteroid could fall on us all tomorrow.... mike_c Aug 2014 #18

what about these? wisechoice Aug 2014 #60

Yes, there is that, too. TexasProgresive Aug 2014 #20

AbsofreakingLutely.. and amazing that some non corporate types can't see that.. and not just Cha Aug 2014 #51

Here's why they are bad StopTheNeoCons Aug 2014 #6

are you aware that same "poison" is certified for use on organic crops...? mike_c Aug 2014 #21

I'm so glad PasadenaTrudy Aug 2014 #41

The Bt that organic farmers use degrades quickly. And even if you ate anything the very day it was Luminous Animal Aug 2014 #43

there is zero vertebrate toxicity, for pete's sake... mike_c Aug 2014 #44

I had to call poison control about it years ago because my then-toddler took a swig. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #71

Sorry, but there's nothing magically different about it. HuckleB Aug 2014 #48

Thanks for being the voice of reason wisechoice Aug 2014 #61

By making things up? HuckleB Aug 2014 #68

Must go hungry or believe the whistler162 Aug 2014 #64

My concerns about GMO food are rooted in science MohRokTah Aug 2014 #8

you want to live in the past.... mike_c Aug 2014 #14

No, I want a sustainable future. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #15

You say one thing, but you do another. HuckleB Aug 2014 #73

Here's some "science" for ya.. A Victory! Cha Aug 2014 #52

You claim one thing and then go with old slippery slope routine. HuckleB Aug 2014 #53

^^^what the people above me wrote. Plus loss of biodiversity magical thyme Aug 2014 #10

I think the answer lies in better planting and harvesting technologies MohRokTah Aug 2014 #11

agreed. which is why I'm happy to live in the organic gardening capital of the US magical thyme Aug 2014 #13

What do you suggest dry land wheat farmers grow Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2014 #59

It's partly Monsantos business model eh? Arthur_Frain Aug 2014 #12

I'm very interested in your perception... mike_c Aug 2014 #22

Most distrust of scientists is the fault of scientists MohRokTah Aug 2014 #24

What Moh said, +1 Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #29

surely you're aware that those shills were a TINY minority... mike_c Aug 2014 #30

Absolutely I'm aware. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #35

well, if "all scientists are cast in a bad light..." mike_c Aug 2014 #45

You are talking about the laymen. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #46

The difference is peer-review Quixote1818 Aug 2014 #33

Plase see post 35. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #36

I work with ecologists and other types of biologists A Little Weird Aug 2014 #25

wow-- I don't know anyone who would make an unqualified statement like that... mike_c Aug 2014 #31

The likelihood of Bt corn being even a small contributing factor to CCD is so small... MohRokTah Aug 2014 #37

Right A Little Weird Aug 2014 #40

I'm moving from mildly skeptical toward full on anti due to the anti labeling push based on the TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #17

So, the organic industry's baseless fear mongering has worked. HuckleB Aug 2014 #49

No, for me it is the relentless wagon circling and single mindedness of proponents TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #54

You are not alone. nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #56

Labeling a technology has never made sense. HuckleB Aug 2014 #57

^^That. Orrex Aug 2014 #65

Your credibility just went to ZERO. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #80

"labeling will hurt everybody" wisechoice Aug 2014 #62

No, it's not. HuckleB Aug 2014 #67

What matters more is that Monsanto is a predator who is stamping out independent farmers. L0oniX Aug 2014 #19

Is anyone that's not evil creating GMOs? A Little Weird Aug 2014 #23

I don't have problems with GMOs. At all. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #26

My concerns are 100% about patenting and monoploizing the food supply arcane1 Aug 2014 #27

I agree. nt Quixote1818 Aug 2014 #34

The only way we as idividuals can speak to this is with our pocketbooks. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #38

That's not a GMO issue. HuckleB Aug 2014 #50

Anti-science! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #28

I popped off to go shopping Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #32

I'm fine with GMO-Free labeling only. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #39

WHAT THE HATERS GOT WRONG ABOUT NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON’S COMMENTS ON GMOS HuckleB Aug 2014 #55

I want labels and the ability of independent researchers to be able to test GMO products pnwmom Aug 2014 #58

Independent research has been happening for a long time. HuckleB Aug 2014 #69

There is no regulation requiring these companies to make their seeds pnwmom Aug 2014 #70

Unless you want to label every form of hybrid, there is NO justification. HuckleB Aug 2014 #72

When I eat brocollini, I know I'm eating a hybrid. So does anyone who buys it, pnwmom Aug 2014 #75

Ah, so now it's all a conspiracy. HuckleB Aug 2014 #76

It's just the Cheney crowd helping Monsanto. No special conspiracy, pnwmom Aug 2014 #77

I had always given you credit for reading what I wrote, and the links I provided. HuckleB Aug 2014 #78

Your link added nothing useful to the discussion pnwmom Aug 2014 #79

So all you have are bad anti-GMO cliches. HuckleB Aug 2014 #82

It doesn't matter how many studies they put forth if they are allowed to suppress pnwmom Aug 2014 #84

Except that they're not. HuckleB Aug 2014 #85

Yes, they are. They control who gets their seeds and they have them sign contracts pnwmom Aug 2014 #87

BTW, can you respond to this without going to the usual cliches? HuckleB Aug 2014 #86

How can I respond to cliches without cliches? pnwmom Aug 2014 #88

That piece is filled with the science of the matter, and you just pretend otherwise. HuckleB Aug 2014 #90

I don't have a problem with golden rice eridani Aug 2014 #66

Actually, you wouldn't have to eat that much. HuckleB Aug 2014 #74

Monsanto fully intends to establish a dictatorship over GMO technology eridani Aug 2014 #89

Why are the GMO companies so terrified to label their wonderful products? nt. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #81

For the same reason that Fox News is successful. HuckleB Aug 2014 #83

I'll try. LWolf Aug 2014 #91