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38. The purpose of GMO is for corporate shitstains to sue people like Percy Schmeiser

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Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:34 PM

Aug 2014

--when pollen drift contaminates their crops with patented material.

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Neil deGrasse Tyson clarifies his remarks, re: GMOs. [View all] Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 OP

No one has ever asked for labelling of GMOs created by nature Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #1

Uhmmm... He said that all food is essentially GMO... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #3

It was dismissing the call for GMO labelling thru a lazy, flippant remark. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #8

No, he's pointing out that ALL food is GMO... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #11

That * I* keep saying? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #18

The first GMO's were created in 1973, the first GMO food was sold in 1994. bananas Aug 2014 #25

It was NDT who made that claim... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #26

Nope - NDT is wrong - he even admits he doesn't know what he's talking about. bananas Aug 2014 #29

If it's genetic code has been changed, then it is genetically modified... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #35

GMO refers to how it was modified. bananas Aug 2014 #37

No, "GMO" just means "genetically Modified organism." Scootaloo Aug 2014 #51

No, "transgenic", "genetically engineered", and "genetically modified" are synonymous. bananas Aug 2014 #55

No, I think you're the one misunderstanding Scootaloo Aug 2014 #72

Thank you, very true and explodes the talking point of pro-GMOers..nt StopTheNeoCons Aug 2014 #64

He's correct. People have been selectively saving seed for thousands of years Warpy Aug 2014 #10

Actually, sterile seeds is NOT a trait of GMO... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #12

I note the good Doctor Neil says both that ALL food is GMO and that SOME food can be patented Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #41

That's a point I've made before laundry_queen Aug 2014 #50

That is a very good point. KitSileya Aug 2014 #96

I hope so.. the whole "nuanced" thing was "flippant", imv.. Cha Aug 2014 #49

Well, that's because there aren't any Scootaloo Aug 2014 #52

I appreciate LWolf Aug 2014 #2

People should learn and think for themselves. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #89

Can you fix this link? LWolf Aug 2014 #91

Sure. Done. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #101

Shiva is not credible. HuckleB Aug 2014 #105

Uhm, GMO-Agriculture is basically all food we eat from before the advent of modern genetic... Humanist_Activist Aug 2014 #99

Indeed. HuckleB Aug 2014 #100

Selective cross pollinating LWolf Aug 2014 #110

I am fortunate to live in California. roody Aug 2014 #4

That's everywhere... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #5

I'll be looking for it in Iowa next week. nt roody Aug 2014 #9

Walk into a Whole Foods, Trader Joe's... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #13

Do you think they are lying about roody Aug 2014 #14

That is a federal law... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #15

We see more of this every day. roody Aug 2014 #20

It certainly is marketing. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #39

they say they verify it -- they don't? KurtNYC Aug 2014 #40

DDT, Love Canal, Lead gasoline and paint, Asbestos insulation.....brought to us by SCIENCE! Dems to Win Aug 2014 #6

20 years of scientific research behind this... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #7

who are those thousands of thousands wisechoice Aug 2014 #17

Universities... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #19

...You say through the internet, via a computer, powered by electricity... Scootaloo Aug 2014 #53

And Neil Degrasse Tyson PatSeg Aug 2014 #78

Is he blind to the possibility of man-made catastrophe? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #16

Or maybe... Archae Aug 2014 #22

Anti-GMO'ers, like most other woo believers, mostly belong to one of three groups... Archae Aug 2014 #21

The repurposing of the word "organic" is itself nothing more than a marketing tool... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #23

Absolutely. Archae Aug 2014 #24

That's because most of the 'organic' food sold in grocery stores Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #28

you are anti science wisechoice Aug 2014 #47

The word "organic" existed LONG before pesticides... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #60

now we have to argue about what word we should using? wisechoice Aug 2014 #65

I'm not questioning shit... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #73

Why is that relevant to this discussion? wisechoice Aug 2014 #75

That's 100% false and can be debunked with a 15 second Google search. Chathamization Aug 2014 #81

There are legitimate concerns about GMO. However, the woo collective ruins it for everyone. chrisa Aug 2014 #31

The purpose of GMO is for corporate shitstains to sue people like Percy Schmeiser eridani Aug 2014 #38

Based on this thread, it's the pro-GMOers who are woo-woo. bananas Aug 2014 #32

Both sides are absolutely clueless. That's why the debate is so silly. chrisa Aug 2014 #36

If research is really needed, then don't we need activism to prevent premature market entry? BillZBubb Aug 2014 #43

That's a good point. chrisa Aug 2014 #46

middle ground is labelling wisechoice Aug 2014 #66

Labeling is not a bad idea. People should know what they're eating. chrisa Aug 2014 #77

Certainly not about the politics. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #102

Shiva is only about politics and self promotion. HuckleB Aug 2014 #104

Characteristics I've noticed about Pro-GMO'ers on numerous sites PatSeg Aug 2014 #76

Why Vaccine and GMO Denial Should be Treated Equally HuckleB Aug 2014 #95

Saying all food comes from GMOs is pretty disingenuous. Tyson's either ignorant or dishonest here. Chathamization Aug 2014 #27

I love it when people call NDT "ignorant...." mike_c Aug 2014 #30

In this case, NDT is ignorant - and wrong. nt bananas Aug 2014 #33

I said "either ignorant or dishonest". My guess is the later. He either doesn't know the meaning of Chathamization Aug 2014 #34

I do think the good doctor stepped out of his field of expertise into a mine field. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #45

He's "ignorant" (a) because they think they know more than this brilliant man. They fucking don't, Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #63

there are scientist who have published result that gmo are unsafe wisechoice Aug 2014 #67

Not scientists that haven't been debunked. HuckleB Aug 2014 #108

I'm kinda of surprised at all this shite coming from him. I'd read about how he was suppose to Cha Aug 2014 #48

I'm surprised too. bananas Aug 2014 #59

He's right. HuckleB Aug 2014 #106

No he's dead wrong because he is. Cha Aug 2014 #107

No, he's right. HuckleB Aug 2014 #109

I wonder whose checks he is cashing mwrguy Aug 2014 #42

Don't know but these are the entities spending money to stop consumer choice: KurtNYC Aug 2014 #58

You know who else is fighting labeling? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #61

and monsanto wisechoice Aug 2014 #68

Not true by a long shot... KurtNYC Aug 2014 #69

Whole Foods spent almost 200K in 2009 to fight GMO labeling... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #74

Perhaps you read that wrong... KurtNYC Aug 2014 #80

He could be just misinformed. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #90

I agree with him except on patents. joshcryer Aug 2014 #44

I don't get how for someone so intelligent that he fully trusts the FDA PuraVidaDreamin Aug 2014 #54

People "fully" trust the FDA, CDC, etc apples and oranges Aug 2014 #86

On conflating intentional breeding with genetically modified organisms Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #56

+1 laundry_queen Aug 2014 #71

We had a discussion on another thread PatSeg Aug 2014 #83

It doesn't surprise me madokie Aug 2014 #57

His attempts to set the record straight didn't. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #62

Climate change deniers have been pushing the same garbage - "The climate is always changing!" Chathamization Aug 2014 #92

Like it or not, if we want to keep eating the way we do Iron Man Aug 2014 #70

Someone needs to photoshop tire tracks over NDT's face NickB79 Aug 2014 #79

It's okay to disagree with someone without throwing them under the bus. Cha Aug 2014 #84

I agree. Now, tell that to some on this thread. NT NickB79 Aug 2014 #85

Tyson's mistake Distant Quasar Aug 2014 #82

are these 250 scientists not upto NDT standards since he knows all fields wisechoice Aug 2014 #87

Thanks for that! PatSeg Aug 2014 #88

Actually, just because they call themselves scientists, doesn't mean they are scientists. HuckleB Aug 2014 #103

nyuh uh! Because @#@%#^@!! wyldwolf Aug 2014 #93

How Scare Tactics on GMO Foods Hurt Everybody HuckleB Aug 2014 #94

You need post this as on OP. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #97

It is, but the last time I posted an OP on GMOs, it was killed by a jury. HuckleB Aug 2014 #98

what about scare tactics against labeling? wisechoice Aug 2014 #112

Labeling is all about fear mongering. HuckleB Aug 2014 #113

He has an opinion, and I profoundly disagree with it Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #111

Can you prove any of your beliefs with a consensus of scientific evidence? HuckleB Aug 2014 #114

No, because they're not the kind of thing science deals with Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #115

Actually, science can inform morality. HuckleB Aug 2014 #116

I'm not bashing NDT Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #117

The morality of agra practices can be assessed with evidence. HuckleB Aug 2014 #118

WHAT THE HATERS GOT WRONG ABOUT NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON’S COMMENTS ON GMOS HuckleB Aug 2014 #119