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vaberella

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:35 PM Apr 2012

Speculation: Trayvon and Zimmerman Confrontation... [View all]

I was reading this thread:Can we discuss the two minutes between George's 911 call and Trayvon's death

And ran across this post by KansDem [link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503070#post95|What happened to the Skittles and Iced Tea?
The reason why I ask is, whenever I'm carrying objects to a destination, I find myself preoccupied with getting there with those objects intact. That's why I find it hard to believe that Martin attacked Zimmerman. What did he do? Put his Skittles and iced tea down on the ground so he had his hands free to pummel Zimmerman? If things were moving too fast, did he throw them down? Did Martin try to fight Zimmerman why holding onto his recently-purchased items?

What happened to his merchandise?]

I answered here.

Basically the above post got me to thinking. If the undertaker for Trayvon stated that he saw no signs of a struggle on Trayvon's hands or body. And in the video we can see that Zimmerman doesn't seem to have been dealt a hard blow to his body as he claimed to have stated. Or at least his father, his brother, his friend, and his neighbor attested too. Then I really started to think about those things that Trayvon had in his hand.

If I'm being followed and I even make a detour to avoid a guy who I think looks suspicious so I could get home. And then I see the freak in front of me like a horror movie. I would use whatever I got to ward the guy off. Additionally, Trayvon played football at one time. I would assume he's got a good throwing arm and decent aim. What if he threw his iced tea at Zimmerman and it was a direct hit. It's possible it could lead to a broken nose, but most definitely it would lead to a bloody nose. Then I pictured if you get hit in the face you might duck down a bit. What if Trayvon then threw his cellphone at Zimmerman's head. It would fit in line with Zimmerman's injuries.

But it would also suggest that Trayvon was acting in self defense and it would also support the claim he was crying and screaming for help if Zimmerman then pulled out his gun on Trayvon. The kid is sort of trapped. He could run back where he came but the guy came from that direction. Not to mention a gun would sort of freeze me, personally. I don't see myself thinking I could outrun a gun but I would scream for help and plead with the person in front of me not to kill me.

It's just the post above got me thinking---cause really what did happen to those things. It makes me wonder as the poster above where the hell were the items in relation to the crime scene. But I could see evidence like that to support Trayvon being totally contaminated or destroyed by these inept police officers.

More and more I'm figuring that Trayvon used what he used on hand as his defense weapon than actually take on Zimmerman, as Zimmerman claimed and we were focusing on. What if it went down this way?

What do you guys think?

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VERY VERY Good question, since there's no indications that Martin was in a fight ...even unbrused uponit7771 Apr 2012 #1
That's what I was thinking. The question was at the bottom but seemed most relevant. vaberella Apr 2012 #2
I think the kid ignored him. izquierdista Apr 2012 #3
Nah. That doesn't jive well, with the 911 call made by Trayvon. vaberella Apr 2012 #4
It's going to be a very interesting trial. RDANGELO Apr 2012 #5
Yup and I can see running while screaming. vaberella Apr 2012 #8
I think that however interesting it is to speculate based on gossip and hearsay, we don't know... slackmaster Apr 2012 #6
Aside from the speculation on the confrontation. vaberella Apr 2012 #7
In court, you telling us (the hypothetical jury) what the undertaker said would qualify as hearsay slackmaster Apr 2012 #9
Okay then. So the undertaker and my speculation. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #10
My partner said he would of thrown the ice tea first thing.... Evasporque Apr 2012 #11
This sounds about right. vaberella Apr 2012 #12
Where were they found? CAPHAVOC Apr 2012 #13
It's not about the scene but where were they laying. vaberella Apr 2012 #15
I have a strong feeling that asshole shot the kid in the back Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #14
Ditto. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #16
I thought so too but the funeral director said he was Solomon Apr 2012 #17
He also said he couldn't determine entry/exit wound Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #18
Usually this is true . . . mistertrickster Apr 2012 #20
Is someone DOING an autopsy this time? nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #21
Key evidence we don't have is from the gun wound. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #19
Here's a graphic interaction showing where Martin was shot. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #22
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