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RobertEarl

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90. Here, on DU, tritsofme

Thu Jul 17, 2014, 08:09 PM

Jul 2014

You don't have to support killing and violence. But you do. Shame on you.

It is best to just support peace and not feed the violence. But you don't. No, You just keep on talking about how some people should be slaughtered. What is it that drives positions like that?

A proper position is to not support ANY violence. Why are you opposed to that position? I see these gawd damned rednecks day in and day out that support violence. I don't expect it on DU, but there you are. What kind of person are you to sit at your computer and support violence in a far away land?

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Israel is invading Gaza right now. The IDF has announced it. [View all] Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 OP

No doubt America will call for a "No Fly" zone and impose sanctions on Israel. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #1

I hope the United States doesn't do that yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #25

I have little doubt that your hope will be fulfilled. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #27

As long as the United States doesn't forgive the Humas Organization yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #50

Even when they use our support and money to kill civilians? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #55

But they are the good murderers. Vattel Jul 2014 #57

The world's bullies violate every law in the book malaise Jul 2014 #2

Yes. Perhaps he can tell Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel HERVEPA Jul 2014 #4

Perhaps they'll stop firing rockets if LittleBlue Jul 2014 #7

Perhaps they'll have a state if they stop saying Israel has no right to exist. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #12

They already recognized Israel as a nation in the past cpwm17 Jul 2014 #17

And how many Israeli settlements are in Gaza? Nevernose Jul 2014 #28

Israel conducted a collective punishment campaign against the Palestinians cpwm17 Jul 2014 #45

I think you mean affect n/t malaise Jul 2014 #61

Hamas has never recognized Israel. Never. former9thward Jul 2014 #32

It wasn't Hamas, it was in the 1990's as part of the Oslo Accords cpwm17 Jul 2014 #42

Israel did not start this conflict. former9thward Jul 2014 #43

No, the barrage of rockets from Hamas started after Israel started its collective punishment campaign cpwm17 Jul 2014 #59

Oh, so Israel was supoosed to do no investigation? former9thward Jul 2014 #63

To think that Hamas will stop firing rockets if they get what they want is naive. chrisa Jul 2014 #68

Agree with you 100%. n/t ChazII Jul 2014 #101

Agree. 840high Jul 2014 #105

We probably killed more civilians with our own shooting of rockets on July 4th than Hamas has... cascadiance Jul 2014 #128

Oh he'll say something alright to the tired old tune of 'israel has the right to Purveyor Jul 2014 #8

He already has. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #10

The two bullies are fighting each other. chrisa Jul 2014 #64

He won't. For whatever reason, US Presidents never condemn Israel. More Palestinians will die, but sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #124

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They would be there already if it wasn't for the new world of communications Purveyor Jul 2014 #9

The word is "there", not "their" and saying Israelis would build gas chambers is disgusting HERVEPA Jul 2014 #13

So is relentlessly bombing Gaza, cutting off water and electric... kysrsoze Jul 2014 #16

Yeh, exactly the same as murdering six million Jews, maybe 11 million people total HERVEPA Jul 2014 #18

Well, can you stop defending Israel's continued atrocities? kysrsoze Jul 2014 #20

Can you condemn Hamas sending rockets into Israel HERVEPA Jul 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #51

So don't throw rocks... All_Corners Jul 2014 #22

Israel needs to win big time. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #26

win what? 0rganism Jul 2014 #71

Well at least ensure they are not destroyed the countries that would like to see them gone yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #81

and the ground invasion of Gaza will surely prevent the destruction of Israel by... who exactly? 0rganism Jul 2014 #83

The Hamas MUST be stopped and the Israelis are stepping up to ensure it happens yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #86

do you think that Hamas could destroy Israel and invading the Gaza strip will help prevent that? 0rganism Jul 2014 #92

This will mean a thousand or more dead LittleBlue Jul 2014 #5

ethnically, many Israelis and many Palestinians are indistingushable. cali Jul 2014 #49

And yet the ones in power in Israel are virtually all light-skinned LittleBlue Jul 2014 #58

yes they do, netanyahu for sure does, there are light palestinians also JI7 Jul 2014 #73

lol yeah sure LittleBlue Jul 2014 #76

i'm referring to the way they look and Netanyahu looks brown and could pass for Arab JI7 Jul 2014 #77

He could pass for Arab in the same way LittleBlue Jul 2014 #78

yes, he can pass for them, he looks more what one would think of as middle eastern JI7 Jul 2014 #80

Something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result neverforget Jul 2014 #6

My thought exactly Aerows Jul 2014 #23

I suggest the Israelis do something different Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #95

That'll learn'em! earthside Jul 2014 #11

This whole world is going to hell in a hand basket today. ugh! Little Star Jul 2014 #14

Yes, everything is going too fast..... mylye2222 Jul 2014 #19

This was a long time coming. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #39

So now what? What is the end game? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #15

this is a disgrace! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #24

The Jewish State will continue to defend itself against Hamas terrorism. tritsofme Jul 2014 #29

The Jewish state is the problem not the solution Larkspur Jul 2014 #31

Israeli Arabs have full political rights. tritsofme Jul 2014 #35

Sounds like you are for violence? RobertEarl Jul 2014 #36

I have nothing to retract or apologize for tritsofme Jul 2014 #46

Might as well keep hoping smiley Jul 2014 #60

Until the Palestinians and their political leaders choose peace tritsofme Jul 2014 #62

And the palestinians will respond smiley Jul 2014 #75

Arafat and Abbas have rejected Israeli offers of peace and an independent state three times. tritsofme Jul 2014 #79

Here, on DU, tritsofme RobertEarl Jul 2014 #90

You are certainly entitled to your position, neither is "proper" tritsofme Jul 2014 #111

Yep RobertEarl Jul 2014 #116

Again, you can think whatever the hell you wan't. tritsofme Jul 2014 #119

Yes, well RobertEarl Jul 2014 #120

I compleley agree, it is beyond reprehensible that Hamas uses innocents as human shields tritsofme Jul 2014 #121

The bombs are the tragedy RobertEarl Jul 2014 #122

I certainly wish the best for them, I wish Hamas would let them find safety. tritsofme Jul 2014 #123

You wish the best for the kids? RobertEarl Jul 2014 #125

I've explained my position. tritsofme Jul 2014 #126

I care not for who is to blame RobertEarl Jul 2014 #127

That is complete and utter rubbish shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #93

What about the civilians? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #65

Hamas should certainly stop using them as human shields tritsofme Jul 2014 #67

But Israeli bombs are killing them. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #72

Yes, it is incredibly tragic that Hamas consigns people to their death in this manner. tritsofme Jul 2014 #74

So it is justified to kill children then? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #82

It is those who force children to remain in military targets that have unnecessarily killed them tritsofme Jul 2014 #84

Does Israel have any culpability in these children's murder? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #85

If they strike a valid military target tritsofme Jul 2014 #87

those kids on thel beach yesterday? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #88

Don't know the specifics, but it sounds tragic. tritsofme Jul 2014 #89

Israel is responsible for their deaths. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #91

Yes, and as I said it is a tragedy. tritsofme Jul 2014 #96

They are still responsible for those deaths. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #97

I don't believe I said otherwise. tritsofme Jul 2014 #99

It is a bad day for Gazans today. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #100

Israelis have seen their share of bad days as well. tritsofme Jul 2014 #107

Well Gaza is having it much worse. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #108

Yes, it is quite shameful that Hamas initiated these attacks. tritsofme Jul 2014 #109

And that Israel is bombing the area. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #110

A justified response to the situation initiated by Hamas tritsofme Jul 2014 #112

And killing children? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #113

We've already covered this ground. Not gonna go around like a broken record. tritsofme Jul 2014 #114

Not justified in my opinion. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #115

While Israel isn't innocent, they're the better of two evils. chrisa Jul 2014 #69

You are wrong. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #103

Hamas exists to promote radical Islam. They are by definition radical fundamentalists. chrisa Jul 2014 #118

...^ that 840high Jul 2014 #106

What is more fundamentalist than people believing a group of men malaise Jul 2014 #129

Let's excuse the Palestinians for firing rockets, then, because chrisa Jul 2014 #130

That's your version malaise Jul 2014 #131

The Palestinians can still travel to Egypt Nevernose Jul 2014 #30

B.S. Israel has never stopped their blockade of Gaza Larkspur Jul 2014 #34

Does Israel control the Egyptian border? Fozzledick Jul 2014 #37

Horseshit. Absolute horseshit. Nevernose Jul 2014 #38

Why do people just "happen" to be near Hamas rocket launchers? tritsofme Jul 2014 #47

sickening bully Whisp Jul 2014 #33

and it will go on and on and on and on and on and on..... spanone Jul 2014 #40

and all you have to do, dhill926 Jul 2014 #48

No Solution in sight... Joel thakkar Jul 2014 #41

We need to stop supporting this criminal regime. alarimer Jul 2014 #44

One day America will wise up and pull the plug on Israel. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #52

A Plague on One House Karmadillo Jul 2014 #53

Like a virile Goliath determined to tromple... countryjake Jul 2014 #54

In my personal opinion... 99Forever Jul 2014 #56

I'm sorry, Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #66

we don't need natural disasters G_j Jul 2014 #70

Well how special. All those soldiers in their tanks up against all those civilians. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #94

And right in the middle of Ramadan! Oh, how history loves to repeat itself. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #98

As much as I oppose and denounce Israels' actions in Gaza BillZBubb Jul 2014 #102

"Gaza is an entirely different situation." Depends on your point of view. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #104

What a vulgar comparison. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #117

There is no karmic ledger that says "The people of Israel are allowed X killings McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #133

That has nothing to do with what I said. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #134

+1,000 malaise Jul 2014 #132