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66. How exactly can you dismiss someone like Marx without reading his work?

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Believe it or not: Karl Marx is making a comeback [View all] xchrom Jun 2014 OP

Perry Anderson malaise Jun 2014 #1

+1 xchrom Jun 2014 #2

Marx was an ass. Archae Jun 2014 #3

... TBF Jun 2014 #4

Most of the 20th Century called....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #15

It's true some will always lovemydog Jun 2014 #16

Spot on. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #25

I do know, pure capitalism doesn't work either. Archae Jun 2014 #28

Our base desires are not written in stone Shankapotomus Jun 2014 #85

Considering Marx lived in poverty most of his adult life..... De Leonist Jun 2014 #23

Bingo laundry_queen Jun 2014 #30

Whatever poverty Marx lived in it was his choice. former9thward Jun 2014 #45

Really ? De Leonist Jun 2014 #46

I don't think Marx looked at money and finances the way most of us do. former9thward Jun 2014 #49

Have you ever managed to kick and claw your way through Kapital? Warpy Jun 2014 #53

Kind of like the kind of capitalism we're headed back to..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #60

Have you actually read anything written by Marx? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #63

Tried to. Archae Jun 2014 #65

How exactly can you dismiss someone like Marx without reading his work? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #66

I dont need to read "The Turner Diaries" to know it's bullshit. Archae Jun 2014 #68

How can you know what is actually contained within a text without reading it? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #71

It is interesting that this is hitting the mainstream - TBF Jun 2014 #5

Yep. That is EXACTLY what it is.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #13

Great points socialist_n_TN lovemydog Jun 2014 #18

Spot on, Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2014 #86

Don't forget that those of us over 40 saw what the perversion of Marxixm Warpy Jun 2014 #51

I am over 40 and not confused about what Marxism actually is - TBF Jun 2014 #52

"Dictatorship of the proletariat." Warpy Jun 2014 #55

I have. He was counterposing that to the current....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #61

Revolutionary Catalonia is a better example. joshcryer Jun 2014 #89

Marxist-Leninism is the only thing tried. joshcryer Jun 2014 #88

That's rather my position, also Warpy Jun 2014 #90

I think there are better authors who preceded him. joshcryer Jun 2014 #91

Well enjoy that hangman's noose when the capitalists counterattack........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #97

I agree with Marxian economist Richard Wolff: deutsey Jun 2014 #6

If the people in charge gave a care about the 99% Demeter Jun 2014 #7

+1 lovemydog Jun 2014 #10

K/R marmar Jun 2014 #8

K&R blackspade Jun 2014 #9

The sad thing is most people don't even know what Marxism/Communism was. A guy on youtube asked MillennialDem Jun 2014 #11

i've been surprised by people i thought were politically well read, nashville_brook Jun 2014 #24

Even though Stalin was a monster and totalitarian, many falsehoods which make him out even MillennialDem Jun 2014 #27

Cold War artifacts no doubt -- i'm sure this was taught in school nashville_brook Jun 2014 #50

That is a very good point and worth stating - TBF Jun 2014 #35

Honestly I'd say the older people are more anti socialist because of the Cold War. MillennialDem Jun 2014 #42

That's really good to hear - TBF Jun 2014 #47

I studied the philosophy of Marxism lovemydog Jun 2014 #12

People keep forgetting that in the 19th century, opium was a GOOD thing-- eridani Jun 2014 #96

Marx called capitalism a vampire. K&R for truth. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #14

I never hated Marx. ananda Jun 2014 #17

I'd encourage everyone here to read Marx for Beginners lovemydog Jun 2014 #19

Marxists even disagree on how much TBF Jun 2014 #36

K&R ReRe Jun 2014 #20

Really? On DU, the first line of defense against traditional Democrats seems to merrily Jun 2014 #21

i have no idea what you're talking about. nt xchrom Jun 2014 #22

That makes 3 of us. H2O Man Jun 2014 #26

4. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #31

That's because what they said makes no sense. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #73

Marx is great for identifying the problems in society. Top notch, actually. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #29

That's what I always thought. Brigid Jun 2014 #32

Well for starters the prescription was never really tried nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #67

the worker will rise up lovuian Jun 2014 #33

I wish he could come back and write a treatise on information KamaAina Jun 2014 #34

Das Internets lovemydog Jun 2014 #37

Have you heard of the grundrisse? DireStrike Jun 2014 #44

BS.nt clarice Jun 2014 #38

such wit! xchrom Jun 2014 #39

How did you get my picture ???!!! nt clarice Jun 2014 #40

a lot of people have your number RainDog Jun 2014 #54

KnR ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #41

He never went anywhere. joshcryer Jun 2014 #43

Thank you. nt clarice Jun 2014 #56

If you studied Classical Political Economy Jeneral2885 Jun 2014 #48

Then what is it that we live under? nt clarice Jun 2014 #58

Arguably, a proto-fascist state. Certainly an economic oligarchy. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #64

No, I mean in the REAL world... clarice Jun 2014 #69

Are you reading what I write? In the real world, the conception of the free-market doesn't exist. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #70

With all due respect, Those exact thoughts.... clarice Jun 2014 #72

What exactly has led to the "inhalation of millions of people?" Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #74

LOL....Should have used spell check. nt clarice Jun 2014 #75

Glossing over the spelling error, what has led to the annihilation of millions of people? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #76

By all accepted statistics ...... 40,000,000 people were starved to death by Stalin's regime alone. clarice Jun 2014 #77

Again, what specific idea from my post lead to the death of millions of people? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #78

Again with all due respect,,,,, clarice Jun 2014 #79

You haven't answered my question. What idea of mine is responsible for millions dead? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #80

Certainly I did....I pasted your exact comments in my previous post. clarice Jun 2014 #81

Okay, so let's have a one on one about basic argumentation skills... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #83

Sorry, you lost me after Okay.....nt clarice Jun 2014 #98

You lost yourself. My statements are concise. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #99

Read The Wealth of Nations, Das Kapital Jeneral2885 Jun 2014 #95

I expect they're confusing him with xfundy Jun 2014 #57

I don't know how relevant Marx himself is nowadays, but if one can avoid struggle4progress Jun 2014 #59

PM kick!! Thanks for this nt riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #62

Jobs are becoming obsolete. Hosnon Jun 2014 #82

"Slightly to the Left of Hillary Clinton"??? Hell, Stargleamer Jun 2014 #84

I love these threads where the People Who Are Always Wrong get ticked in unison. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #87

Dadburn it, you made me look! Warpy Jun 2014 #93

+1 xchrom Jun 2014 #94

I believe it - truth will out. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #92