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wyldwolf

(43,873 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:46 PM Jun 2014

Can we finally agree that Obamacare is working? [View all]

At the end of a war, some people will remain holed up in the trees, thinking they can still turn the tide of a lost cause. Increasingly, that's the best description of the anti-Obamacare dead-enders, including Congressional Republicans, who continue to depict the Affordable Care Act as a failure despite facts like these:

--Nearly 60% of enrollees in ACA-compliant exchange health plans this year were previously uninsured--most of them for two years or more.

--Obamacare cut costs for buyers eligible for subsidies by an average 76% compared to non-subsidized premiums. More than 80% of buyers are eligible for government subsidies, and for them the average premium is $82 a month. (Source: Dept. of Health and Human Services.)

--Most people can save money by choosing plans offering narrower provider networks, and there's "no meaningful" difference in health outcomes between plans with narrow hospital networks and those offering broader networks. (Source: McKinsey & Co.)

--Projected rate increases for 2015 are coming in well below expectations. Anthem Blue Cross rates will rise by less than 10% next year, about in line with health plan rate increases in the individual market in the pre-ACA era. (Source: Anthem Blue Cross.)

Here's the Republican approach to these trends. On Thursday, Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, issued a report attacking the Administration for its botched rollout of Healthcare.gov. That happened eight months ago, and in the end didn't seem to affect overall enrollments. Is that's all they got?

It's proper to note that the statistics cited above demolish some of the most cherished claims of the anti-Obamacare right. Their estimates of the percentage of enrollees who were previously uninsured dipped as low as 27%; obviously their calculations were deeply flawed. All the emerging statistics indicate that the Affordable Care Act has materially reduced the number of Americans without insurance, which after all was its goal.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-is-working-20140620-column.html

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There's still all the millions of dead broke people like me that still don't have it... Rod Beauvex Jun 2014 #1
Why dont you have it? quakerboy Jun 2014 #4
. Rod Beauvex Jun 2014 #15
So its not the ACA quakerboy Jun 2014 #16
. Rod Beauvex Jun 2014 #19
Because Medicaid didn't get expanded into all states? That's not a problem with Obamacare, pnwmom Jun 2014 #7
That was a messed up decision wasn't it. savalez Jun 2014 #9
If your income was under 12K, couldn't you have estimated your 2014 income at $12K? stevenleser Jun 2014 #39
. Rod Beauvex Jun 2014 #43
Nah give it another 20 years and 34o23uin studies and well, that's what the Kill the Bill folk uponit7771 Jun 2014 #2
Health care is very important to everyone. I would venture to say sometime in the future health Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #3
you forgot the sarcasm tag Doctor_J Jun 2014 #13
It will change, just as Massachusetts has only around 5% uninsured, this will happen in the rest of Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #18
but your post to which I responded said the US is close to being level with the Doctor_J Jun 2014 #21
Don't think close was in my post. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #28
Its working better than what came before it quakerboy Jun 2014 #5
And it's certainly working great for insurers too. progressoid Jun 2014 #6
word Doctor_J Jun 2014 #12
It took years for universal health care for countries that have them Iliyah Jun 2014 #8
Teddy Roosevelt first proposed it about 100 years ago... truebluegreen Jun 2014 #26
It certainly is helping those who were previously uninsured and the younger people.. Cha Jun 2014 #10
Is there a graph that shows how many have paid the premium ? NM_Birder Jun 2014 #38
Whatever rickyhall Jun 2014 #11
That would be a 50,000 bill here Doctor_J Jun 2014 #24
obamacare is clearly a fantastic success Takket Jun 2014 #14
It has been a fantastic success for the insurance companies but only sort of successful for some Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #17
Obamacare has been a godsend for my family, and for many others that I know. stopbush Jun 2014 #27
That is nice I am glad they like it, but many were also left behind guess they should be happy too. Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #32
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #34
Telling the truth is not shitting on it as you say unless of course it was shit to begin with Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #35
If you had a handle on "the truth," it might hurt. stopbush Jun 2014 #36
If I were self absorbed I would not even waste my time here Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #42
I'm not sure that whether it would be a success of not was ever in question........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #20
Perhaps we can give it more than 6 months ... 1000words Jun 2014 #22
look at the picture in reply 6 Doctor_J Jun 2014 #23
What does it matter now ? The IRS, .."those people" that will be NM_Birder Jun 2014 #37
It is a start etherealtruth Jun 2014 #25
Absolutely not. Many of key components have yet to be implemented. maced666 Jun 2014 #29
Which is why Republicans are going, "BENGHAZI IRS BENGHAZI IRS" alp227 Jun 2014 #30
No. Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #31
Never! Never! Wait, I thought my browser had been highjacked and this OP was freeperland flamebait. pampango Jun 2014 #33
One very serious problem is that private health insurance corporations have devised and employed Zorra Jun 2014 #40
Everyone knows that the insurance companies are the problem, and ACA locks them in Doctor_J Jun 2014 #41
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