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MADem

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44. We've been in the "old" embassy since 1960.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:21 AM
Apr 2012

We've been in Grosvenor Square since John Adams went over that way!

We don't own the land under the building, and that's a big part of the problem. Also, the old building is kind of cramped in some regards. It really is past time to move out of the square, despite the historical associations with it--the entire area is just not very secure, even with the ugly ass blast walls and flowerpots, etc. It's way too soft a target.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3123915/US-embassy-to-move-from-Grosvenor-Square-to-industrial-estate.html

US embassy to move from Grosvenor Square to industrial estate
The American embassy is to move from its landmark London location to an industrial area south of the river in a decision driven by security concerns.


...Ambassador Robert Tuttle said security fears had played a major role in the decision to move but also the current embassy had reached its limits as an office building with a staff of 800.

...The current embassy was always an oddity in the US diplomatic set-up because of the lease arrangement with the Duke of Westminster - virtually every other major mission is owned outright by the US.
The Duke reportedly said he would only sell if the US government returned his family's land, confiscated during the American War of Independence.


Hell, maybe this time they'll get the eagle to look the right way, if they don't take the one they have now along with them to their new home (it's considered a rather famous sculpture now, the guy who designed it was a well known artist--unknown if the reclassification of the building as a historic site means they have to leave it behind, or what) and with any luck, they'll leave behind the statue of Saint Ronnie in Grosvenor Square. Ike looks right there, but Ronnie looks like something plonked down to buy Margaret Thatcher a thrill or something.

If the idiots at Faux news don't like the idea of a black American president building a new embassy (and they don't), that's reason enough to build it, IMO.
Nope. Another boondoggle for crony capitalists. Do the Brits have complaints about the old embassy? freshwest Mar 2012 #1
Only inasmuch dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #8
Ah, the lust for new and shiny things. Yes, the UK loves them too. freshwest Mar 2012 #17
eah, but we can' t afford them. mr blur Mar 2012 #38
Yes, those are always an amazing nationalistic spectacle. Do they actually keep people... freshwest Mar 2012 #39
Sky news has it possibly costing upto as high as £24bn (nt) MichaelMcGuire Apr 2012 #50
Washington is nothing but a den of thieves which needs to be erradicated think Mar 2012 #2
Want to go the direct corporate route? freshwest Mar 2012 #16
I'll take the law abiding and constitutional route thank you. think Mar 2012 #20
Hoping by your signature line you mean reducing the debt by ending war and not killing off the poor. freshwest Mar 2012 #22
Without cutting security & defense spending and ending the Bush tax cuts think Mar 2012 #24
What do you think about Ron Paul's vision for doing all of that? freshwest Mar 2012 #25
What do you think of Ron Paul's vision for doing this since you choose to bring it up? think Mar 2012 #27
They lead to fascism, but his points sound just like yours. freshwest Mar 2012 #29
Wow. I sound like a fascist for being against the military industrial complex? think Mar 2012 #30
Being new, you may not have read the arguments here. freshwest Mar 2012 #31
So advocating ending the Bush tax cuts sounds like a Ron Paul stance? SERIOUSLY think Mar 2012 #32
Alright, my bad. I was still typing a rant about the other one. freshwest Mar 2012 #33
It's all good. I realize some of my points overlap RP's when it comes to think Mar 2012 #36
We are cool, and I'm impressed. Thank you for who you are, and my apologies again. freshwest Mar 2012 #41
Looks like they're moving south of the river to Nine Elms dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #3
"Fetchez la vache." eShirl Mar 2012 #12
That occured to me to dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #13
Reminds me irresistably of this. oldironside Mar 2012 #28
this is kind of old news but worthy of discussion maddezmom Mar 2012 #4
Sorry, those are all obsolete links from DU2. trof Mar 2012 #7
They work for me dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #9
Me, too. nt MADem Apr 2012 #46
you probably need to be signed in maddezmom Mar 2012 #10
Check the last, dipsy mentioned what was in it. And it shows how the money is just flying around. freshwest Mar 2012 #19
There's dipsy's barricades. Why not anchor a huge ship offshore. Would be more private. freshwest Mar 2012 #18
You may be on to something. Bring U.S. Carrier Constellation out of mothball. trof Mar 2012 #42
I doubt the Thames has the depth, but what a show of elite status for the visitors. They could be.. freshwest Mar 2012 #43
Ouch. MADem Apr 2012 #47
I can see the need for a big Embassy in London edhopper Mar 2012 #5
I don't know any of us peons who did... Except we'll be paying for it. freshwest Mar 2012 #34
A real estate investment is better than bombs. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2012 #6
That's almost as much as our "embassy" in Iraq cost. eShirl Mar 2012 #11
FYI the "old" one was built in the 1970s dickthegrouch Mar 2012 #14
No it wasn't dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #21
It was finished in 1960. nt MADem Apr 2012 #45
A United States Embassy is a sales office for military hardware. unhappycamper Mar 2012 #15
Richie Rich at work stealing more of your dough. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #23
"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment." DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #26
He knew and then the MIC media 'manufactured' our consent. Nice circle. freshwest Mar 2012 #35
That's huge seattleblah Mar 2012 #37
This reminds me of my job.. SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #40
We've been in the "old" embassy since 1960. MADem Apr 2012 #44
500 million dollars. That's just wrong. Zorra Apr 2012 #48
China volunteered to build it for free! dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #49
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