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447. I think it really is time to self delete this thing.

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Tackling Asian Privilege [View all] The Straight Story May 2014 OP

... oldhippie May 2014 #1

LOL, + 42 Xyzse May 2014 #5

Where's that head exploding gif? LittleBlue May 2014 #7

Let me check Xyzse May 2014 #16

I can't believe you posted this. boston bean May 2014 #2

I didn't write it. And how is it racist? (nt) The Straight Story May 2014 #3

You posted that shit here. Read it and determine how racist it is yourself. boston bean May 2014 #4

Why don't you explain how it's racist. You made the accusation. badtoworse May 2014 #6

So, you deny privilege exists? (nt) The Straight Story May 2014 #10

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I think. boston bean May 2014 #13

SCORE! oldhippie May 2014 #17

Hardly surpising BainsBane May 2014 #224

Yeah, I DO have certain views towards certain people of color ... oldhippie May 2014 #266

Why have you recommended an OP from a right wing racist website muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #299

Whooshed right over your head ... oldhippie May 2014 #356

I'm beginning to think I don't want to understand your views muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #357

" ... it looks very bad for you." oldhippie May 2014 #362

I would deny that that particular ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #12

I take it as a thinly veiled slap at the W/P ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #53

Par for the all white country club course alcibiades_mystery May 2014 #138

TBH, more mealy-mouthed, racist libertarian trolling! Yep. bettyellen May 2014 #161

the website is publishedby a guy who teamed up with Pat Buchanan and founded the American Conservati LanternWaste May 2014 #8

read this: boston bean May 2014 #14

... Yet, it is an OP on a site called Democratic Underground etherealtruth May 2014 #62

And it is so unsurprising who posted it here, and who's celebrating redqueen May 2014 #65

No, no surprises etherealtruth May 2014 #77

11 recs so far for this racist garbage. redqueen May 2014 #89

I have to admit, I too, have checked to see who would rec something like this n/t etherealtruth May 2014 #90

Yeah... chervilant May 2014 #355

Rec does not mean 'I agree'. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #473

Quick question about your signature FrodosPet May 2014 #79

In this country the passenger's right to a public accommodation wins every time etherealtruth May 2014 #86

Unfortunately, I have dealt with both of those situations FrodosPet May 2014 #94

My sig line is a reminder for tolerance etherealtruth May 2014 #110

misogynist too? and the OP is a fan of his writings. Im shocked, I tell you! bettyellen May 2014 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen May 2014 #167

Interesting. The Straight Story May 2014 #15

No, it's a suggestion for you to reconsider the post. boston bean May 2014 #19

White privilege does exist. How is it relevant when discussing other privileges? The Straight Story May 2014 #22

fucking figure it out yourself. This entire thread makes me sick. boston bean May 2014 #24

LOL snooper2 May 2014 #282

"I'm out. I won't have any part in this." pintobean May 2014 #288

Or merely pointing out relevant ideology of an author sourced. LanternWaste May 2014 #27

You do realize ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #78

I don't think he noticed that. Squinch May 2014 #95

Trouble is it's written by a rightpwing racist white guy Scootaloo May 2014 #360

The OP read like satire to me. Had no idea I was supposed to take it seriously. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #478

Consider who posted it. redqueen May 2014 #483

Noted. Not surprised either. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #484

It's simply relevant context... regardless of any projection. LanternWaste May 2014 #20

I think I'm seeing some great Machiavellian tactics Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #9

Oh, please, don't kid yourself .... oldhippie May 2014 #21

Nah. It's just one guy flame baiting. Like he always does when he is feeling sorry for himself. Squinch May 2014 #42

If that is true, there must be a perpetual pity party going on etherealtruth May 2014 #88

Absolutely Right! Butch McQueen May 2014 #46

I thought it was coordinated from outside from the beginning... KoKo May 2014 #389

OFFS rudolph the red May 2014 #11

How DARE you start a thread on DU asserting that a particular racial group is "privileged". Nye Bevan May 2014 #18

Using the success to try and deflect the difficulties minorities face boston bean May 2014 #23

"Racist" You keep using that word. Bok_Tukalo May 2014 #26

The word "Racist" was not used in the post you reply to intaglio May 2014 #518

I see what you did there..... Mr_Harshaw May 2014 #51

After 9-11 it was mostly Asians shot and killed JI7 May 2014 #25

what ? nobody wants to respond to this, why don't white peopel have to worry about being attacked JI7 May 2014 #29

Unless the "white people" is Jewish - the big exception, as always. Raksha May 2014 #311

British Asians too LeftishBrit May 2014 #175

No one seems to want to answer you! Squinch May 2014 #428

Actually... Xyzse May 2014 #28

Not to mention the glass ceiling many Asians face woolldog May 2014 #70

and look at right wingers trying to get rid of Eric Shinseki JI7 May 2014 #73

That is probably payback for General Shinseki telling congress several thousand troops were needed FarCenter May 2014 #85

that's a stereotype CreekDog May 2014 #129

Not a stereotype; it is a fact FarCenter May 2014 #155

Some people just can't grasp the fact ..... oldhippie May 2014 #166

I am truly sorry that you even had to see this moronic OP. Number23 May 2014 #137

N'ah it's ok. Xyzse May 2014 #144

This WHOLE THING... AsahinaKimi May 2014 #380

Did for me for about a second before I shrugged, and... Xyzse May 2014 #439

I am late JustAnotherGen May 2014 #441

you seem to see yourself as a victim in everything , but i can see why, you are resentful of others JI7 May 2014 #30

Never about me. About the discussion The Straight Story May 2014 #37

there have been many threads about asians success but they rarely get many comments, yet you post JI7 May 2014 #38

I can agree that wealth/power is the biggest sort of privilege. Xyzse May 2014 #43

It's always about you MattBaggins May 2014 #57

it is about you, you posted it and you defended it as not racist CreekDog May 2014 #130

Exactly. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #300

So you reach down into the bowels of a racist website boston bean May 2014 #283

Not funny, not appropriate frazzled May 2014 #31

The "article" is patently stupid etherealtruth May 2014 #36

it's pretty clear when a person has a certain history JI7 May 2014 #39

Oh believe me, I am aware etherealtruth May 2014 #40

You've got to be kidding me. NuclearDem May 2014 #32

i think the OP identifies with the author , why else would he post something like this JI7 May 2014 #33

it is painfully obvious, isn't it? nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #81

Finally the truth of the matter exposed. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #301

this reminds me of republicans bringing up Al Sharpton and cases of black on white violence JI7 May 2014 #34

Didn't you hear-- Jamaal510 May 2014 #169

The results are in: 1000words May 2014 #35

Had the alerter walked the jury thru WHY the source was "disgusting" alp227 May 2014 #352

I did just that in the alert I sent, in fact Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #358

You don't seem to have much faith in your fellow DUers. 1000words May 2014 #369

That's a major flaw in the alert system. LAGC May 2014 #377

Agreed. The first alert is not always the most detailed/accurate one. PeaceNikki May 2014 #415

Just a few snippets from this disgusting article: NuclearDem May 2014 #41

Weird if you replaced Asian with white on all of those people would celebrate you here. dilby May 2014 #44

You're not supposed to notice things like that. badtoworse May 2014 #47

bs, nobody is claiming white privilege means every white person has it great in life JI7 May 2014 #48

Ah, the reverse racism card. NuclearDem May 2014 #52

I am a Jews so I can call it out. dilby May 2014 #54

Privilege has been defined constantly here. NuclearDem May 2014 #61

Ah yes the old everyone thinks that way so it has to be true. dilby May 2014 #64

Enough with the guilt already! badtoworse May 2014 #69

I am sorry is my Jewish privilege offending you? dilby May 2014 #76

Not at all. My wife is Jewish, so I understand guilt very well. badtoworse May 2014 #80

Wow, do you tell your wife enough with the guilt too? dilby May 2014 #84

It's a bit of a game. She tells me she has a black belt in guilt. badtoworse May 2014 #96

Sorry man, did not mean to come off hard. dilby May 2014 #107

No problem. This whole privilege theme has gotten heated at times. badtoworse May 2014 #140

This post and the author who did it do nothing to unify RainDog May 2014 #448

I'm Jewish too, so maybe that gives me the "privilege" to disagree with you Raksha May 2014 #329

+1 lunasun May 2014 #409

"Privilege is mostly about how other people perceive you." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #418

"arrogant Orientals"- and the hosts left this racist pile of shit standing. Feigning impotence again bettyellen May 2014 #165

Oh my Aerows May 2014 #45

Can't rec this. No offense. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #49

Hope this guys does not research us Jews. dilby May 2014 #50

Look at Jene Simmons. SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #63

Gene Simmons is not white. dilby May 2014 #68

This kinda sounds like what sterling said in his interviews AngryAmish May 2014 #99

Yeah except sterling is a racist, but according to DU he is a bigot. dilby May 2014 #102

To be fair, Jewish folks are shut out of important positions of power in the US. AngryAmish May 2014 #106

We are only 2% and yes we rise to the top. dilby May 2014 #109

Wonderful! I appreciate every word you have written. nilesobek May 2014 #223

Isn't Takimag a right wing Mag? etherealtruth May 2014 #55

It's pretty extremely right wing and very, very racist Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #58

WTF ... why is this trash allowed here? etherealtruth May 2014 #60

Because "community standards" redqueen May 2014 #71

The community standards accept sites on par with Stormfront etherealtruth May 2014 #75

Yep. Misogynist/MRA shit, racist shit... the two go hand in hand redqueen May 2014 #91

As are... opiate69 May 2014 #520

Taki Theodoracopulos is very RW LeftishBrit May 2014 #67

Quite odd ... I had to educate myself (with the help of other's/ thank you) about the site etherealtruth May 2014 #74

Steve Sailor and John Derbyshire have columns there AngryAmish May 2014 #98

Why the hell would a jury allow garbage from this site to be reposted here? etherealtruth May 2014 #108

Yes the source is not appropriate for DU MattBaggins May 2014 #134

That's the understatement of the decade LeftishBrit May 2014 #174

As this thread went on last night I further researched this hate site etherealtruth May 2014 #176

Gavin McInnes has written for VDARE too... SidDithers May 2014 #179

Racist drivel. morningfog May 2014 #56

I don't like hating on race, sex, and station, and I am learning that white trash like me Dragonfli May 2014 #59

+1000. But please don't go. nt. polly7 May 2014 #66

As a minority who represent 2% of this great Nation. please don't give up dilby May 2014 #93

*Of course* none of us "get unicorns and parades every time you wake up in the morning." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #423

Get it all out of your system, white dudes. Starry Messenger May 2014 #82

They are, indeed. 1000words May 2014 #100

pulling further back, we see how Asians weren't always a "model minority" MisterP May 2014 #83

OMG! I always thought of the Yellow Peril as movie trophe. That's disgusting! freshwest Jun 2014 #532

What were you reading that you ended up on that site? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #87

I notice a lot of people are attacking the messenger and not the message. dilby May 2014 #92

Would you say that about something from Rush Limbaugh? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #101

If Rush Limbaugh or David Duke said the sky was blue should I disagree? dilby May 2014 #103

If Rush Limbaugh said there's no such thing as white privilege muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #104

There is an old Jewish Proverb "A broken clock can be right twice a day" dilby May 2014 #105

I have a very sick feeling there are some that would applaud Rush ... etherealtruth May 2014 #111

Andrew Sullivan is a big fan of The Bell Curve Fumesucker May 2014 #115

I have no doubt that the same folk reccing this post love those posts, too etherealtruth May 2014 #116

Nope, actually it's just about the opposite Fumesucker May 2014 #118

Whew ... I thought the Bell Curve garbage had been lauded (here) etherealtruth May 2014 #124

Just out of curiosity... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #117

Either a source is "right wing" or it isn't Fumesucker May 2014 #126

Things generally aren't that clear-cut, though Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #127

you are equating posting something racist with something positive about Obama ? JI7 May 2014 #128

I wasn't comparing it Fumesucker May 2014 #133

most interactions people have will be with people who are not wealthy, and poor whites can be racist JI7 May 2014 #136

DU is a comedy act, at this point. 1000words May 2014 #145

Sullivan's racism is one of the main reasons why I don't care for him Chathamization May 2014 #474

Right wing messages from VERY right wing sites should be carefully considered and discussed, huh? etherealtruth May 2014 #112

yeah, that's my take away and if you don't carefully consider and discuss boston bean May 2014 #160

This is madness etherealtruth May 2014 #177

I'll admit swine may shit out a few pearls of wisdom, but this ain't one. n/t moriah May 2014 #157

If you can't make your point without resorting to posting from a known RW racist maddezmom May 2014 #97

Once the source was exposed the OP fled the thread MattBaggins May 2014 #143

Terrible article. bravenak May 2014 #113

My main issue with the article is that is boston bean May 2014 #114

It sucked all around. bravenak May 2014 #119

Yeah, it sure did suck all the way around. boston bean May 2014 #120

Me neither. bravenak May 2014 #122

Why are you posting the racist rantings of a racist here? CreekDog May 2014 #121

TOS violation, posting racist rantings of a racist CreekDog May 2014 #123

Even though this post survived a jury, remember your alerts still go to the Admins. Starry Messenger May 2014 #125

I never thought i would see the day where linking to a right wing hate site was acceptable etherealtruth May 2014 #131

I'm pretty stunned. Starry Messenger May 2014 #135

You know.. I have to say Texasgal May 2014 #132

i love the recommend list CreekDog May 2014 #139

Yeah, I saw it. Take a look at this lovely piece at the website: freshwest Jun 2014 #533

As an Asian American I will go on record: Asian privilege exists. alp227 May 2014 #141

I'll agree somewhat. It depends on the family and culture. IronLionZion May 2014 #163

There's so much subversive win in this thread 1000words May 2014 #142

Hey Straight, you buddies at talkmag.com are a bunch of bigots. U4ikLefty May 2014 #146

Seems like something a bunch of bigots would post and recommend. JTFrog May 2014 #308

Yep and not the first time for Straight lunasun May 2014 #405

this is the type of shit cheered on by racist wingnuts everywhere JI7 May 2014 #147

+100000 bettyellen May 2014 #162

I honestly don't know what's worse Number23 May 2014 #148

good question CreekDog May 2014 #150

is this racist site on your regular reading list? CreekDog May 2014 #149

Delete this racist bullshit post and article. boston bean May 2014 #151

Agree fully. These "privilege" threads are not at all helpful in working to end racism. Nye Bevan May 2014 #153

cute. but just give more insight into what you think. boston bean May 2014 #154

Yes, I know my position on the usefulness of the "privilege" threads has been a little unclear. Nye Bevan May 2014 #170

I thought you were "Done" and "Out" with post #24? snooper2 May 2014 #284

You have some sort of problem with my continuing posting against this racist bullshit? boston bean May 2014 #285

I just feel bad since you lied to us snooper2 May 2014 #287

I thought Asian Privilege meant they're all kung fu masters with giant robot battlesuits Orrex May 2014 #152

Why is this right wing racist trash allowed here? myrna minx May 2014 #156

Tiger mom's fault! mainer May 2014 #158

It's right wing satire muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #173

Come on guys, it's satire. mainer May 2014 #159

Thats what I got out of it also. Go Vols May 2014 #172

the link is not to satire. no evidence the OP thinks so either. bettyellen May 2014 #188

Any single white or Jewish or whatever women want to create super-privileged babies, IronLionZion May 2014 #164

What a fucking disgusting OP YoungDemCA May 2014 #171

Kick for exposure.... SidDithers May 2014 #178

Why on Earth would you post this garbage here? This is disgusting and has no business on this... hrmjustin May 2014 #180

I'd self delete this if I were you nt steve2470 May 2014 #181

Now that this is kicked, yet again, for all to see... I was hoping you'd delete it at some point ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #182

While I agree that the "privilege" threads, including this one, are unhelpful, Nye Bevan May 2014 #184

No it would not in this case unfortunately. We, as a group, are better than this. ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #185

The op should be told how hurtful and inappropriate it was to post this. hrmjustin May 2014 #186

it made it past the hosts because one held the vote hostage- asking for a lock elsewhere bettyellen May 2014 #187

Asking for a lock on what, exactly? That seems kind of relevant. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #189

GD hosts do not have authority to lock OPs based on sources. ucrdem May 2014 #190

TOS violation. Oh, but I forgot- you argued it wasn't racist at all. Thn you said it was equal to bettyellen May 2014 #199

Hosts are not admins and do not make TOS assessments. nt ucrdem May 2014 #201

You yourself was making that assesment of the Mobama thread you hated. There was no integrity in bettyellen May 2014 #209

Don't bullshit me. of course you do. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #208

No we really don't. I explained all this in a very nice OP that you can read in my journal. ucrdem May 2014 #214

Evasion of responsibility in a difficult situation? Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #215

Pretending he could not vote otherwise while offering to change the vote for a gimme? bettyellen May 2014 #347

even after hearing about the extreme RW hate there, he argued it was satirical- does that make any bettyellen May 2014 #218

Rumors are fine but as a GD host I actually did due diligence. Did you? ucrdem May 2014 #219

host have discretion to do the right thing- you would have locked it if you had your way on another bettyellen May 2014 #220

We do not at present have the authority to lock either. I'm sorry. nt ucrdem May 2014 #222

sorry you did, you just ignored the evidence presented to you. boston bean May 2014 #290

No- you offered to vote lock as part of a "deal" - so obviously you knew you could lock it. bettyellen May 2014 #293

Actually, that isn't true, and you are spreading false tales about GD hosts. ucrdem May 2014 #302

you pretended your hands were tied, and brought that BS to GD. "I don't object to locking this one" bettyellen May 2014 #325

I also said we needed a consensus, which we did not and do not have. ucrdem May 2014 #327

You said a lot of embarrassing things, this OP was not racist, then it was.... bettyellen May 2014 #330

I thought you said you were done? ucrdem May 2014 #332

Transparency is good. bettyellen May 2014 #335

I bet you'd like it to disappear now. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #346

Oh, I'm sure you would. Starry Messenger May 2014 #353

today they made up a brand new reason why this should now be locked, LOL.... bettyellen May 2014 #440

Yes they do. You're absolutely wrong about this... SidDithers May 2014 #280

Not sure this is the same post but found this from Skinner maddezmom May 2014 #286

this is the one where he states it clearer boston bean May 2014 #289

There are half a dozen posts from SKinner where he says whatever the hosts decide- pretending they bettyellen May 2014 #294

And this one too... SidDithers May 2014 #312

That pertains to conspiracy theories. ucrdem May 2014 #319

But the sop says no conspiracy theories pintobean May 2014 #321

yeah, the lovely explaination we were treated to about the process hosts use? Complete BS. bettyellen May 2014 #193

That isn't true. A jury left this OP 5-2 and hosts have no authority to lock ad libidem. ucrdem May 2014 #198

TOS violations are lockable if the host want to. Skinner is clear on that. You tried to swap votes bettyellen May 2014 #204

Not in DU3. Here's what Skinner said in ATA on Monday of this week: ucrdem May 2014 #207

Unreliable Site= RW Racist Hate Site? On what planet? bettyellen May 2014 #212

That doesn't speak to TOS violations, but to "unreliable sources". Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #217

GD hosts have one task: to lock OPs that violate GD SOP. Period. ucrdem May 2014 #221

curious what you know about mods? you joined DU almost 2 years after the mod system CreekDog May 2014 #234

You've been advocating locking threads because you don't like the freaking "tone" or the way an Warren Stupidity May 2014 #245

he offered to vote lock on THIS THREAD, and that is why his exlaination does not fly.... bettyellen May 2014 #295

I made no such offer to lock this thread and you should continue this in the host's forum. nt ucrdem May 2014 #305

hide the truth and peddle some "message from hosts forum" NO. here is your post: bettyellen May 2014 #309

I made no mention of changing my vote ucrdem May 2014 #316

wow. So you stirred shit up in gd and then complain that people are responding in gd? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #318

You know Warren, in Skinner's advice to hosts he asks that they act in good faith: ucrdem May 2014 #322

I think you have been getting a bit of feedback that your recent actions have not Warren Stupidity May 2014 #351

That's not true at all. There were four votes to leave... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #191

The last tally before the OP self-deleted was 6-4 leave. ucrdem May 2014 #192

you offered to change your vote to get a lock elsewhere. is that the "process" you explained to DU? bettyellen May 2014 #194

One vote either way would not have achieved consensus to lock ucrdem May 2014 #195

oh, here is the vote trader explining the rules of hosting again. how'd that work last time? bettyellen May 2014 #206

Yeah, that sounds about right... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #197

Thank you for pointing that out. ucrdem May 2014 #200

No worries. And thank you... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #213

It is a TOS violation, but said host did offer to change his vote, if someone would lock something bettyellen May 2014 #203

Juries enforce the DU TOS, not forum hosts. Lasher May 2014 #225

no that's wrong, juries do not enforce the TOS CreekDog May 2014 #233

If Admins and MIRT enforce the TOS, that doesn't go to say juries do not. Lasher May 2014 #239

So, the SOP must say no racist posts from racist websites before a host could lock? boston bean May 2014 #255

that so many host were absent is a real shame, but that vote was held hostage for a Mobama lock... bettyellen May 2014 #196

It was about the same number of GD hosts as for most other alerts... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #202

I am sorry, but one host was not acting on good faith with the horse trading BS.... bettyellen May 2014 #205

There's been plenty of attempts to horse-trade in the past. Violet_Crumble May 2014 #210

Sorry, the results of decison like this obviously matter very much to many of us here at DU bettyellen May 2014 #216

It matters very much to me too, and I say the thread stands. Lasher May 2014 #226

So you think an OP citing a racist, right-wing site is appropriate for GD then? Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #228

I think it's very clear. pintobean May 2014 #229

The community, in this case, is wrong. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #230

Well, it's not the job of hosts pintobean May 2014 #235

if hosts pretend they can't vote lock, when offering to do so.... bettyellen May 2014 #313

yes it violates the SOP, linking to racist drivel from hate sites by hate authors is not in the SOP CreekDog May 2014 #231

Two and a half years of this system pintobean May 2014 #237

I always understood that GD hosts could only lock threads for SOP violations, Nye Bevan May 2014 #241

you complain about OP's, posts and threads all the time CreekDog May 2014 #247

Your replies have nothing to do pintobean May 2014 #248

What are your reasons for recommending the OP? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #297

To be clear, Lasher has recommended the OP muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #296

I caught that. Some think RW racist libertarian nuttery is perfectly fine for GD.... bettyellen May 2014 #326

Maybe you'd like to know my reasoning for recommending this thread. Lasher May 2014 #479

however if the word "gun" appeared you would have voted to lock it, post haste CreekDog May 2014 #232

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the word "gun" appear in the GD SOP, Nye Bevan May 2014 #243

Does it really need to be spelled out that racist threads are not allowed in GD? I don't get this seaglass May 2014 #249

Isn't it up to juries, as opposed to hosts, Nye Bevan May 2014 #251

Yes, if we could be assured that jurors were not racists or incredibly stupid. Since we can't, seaglass May 2014 #253

Considering his responses upthread, it appears he agreed with the OP. boston bean May 2014 #254

Are you referring to post 153 where I agreed with you that this thread should be deleted? Nye Bevan May 2014 #258

I'm referring to all of your postings throughout the thread. boston bean May 2014 #259

I've consistently stated that this thread is unhelpful, Nye Bevan May 2014 #262

People only need to read your postings in this thread here to come to a conclusion of what it is you boston bean May 2014 #263

I don't even recall using the phrase "white privilege" anywhere in this thread (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #265

ok boston bean May 2014 #267

Wait.... so that's me "agreeing" with the OP? Nye Bevan May 2014 #270

Yeah the posting is bizarre and difficult to follow, but let me help boston bean May 2014 #271

In DU3 the admins generally defer to jury decisions. Nye Bevan May 2014 #256

Hosting duties and jury duties are two different things. boston bean May 2014 #257

Am I wrong in my understanding that the GD hosts are there to enforce the GD SOP, Nye Bevan May 2014 #261

Yeah right. That's why jurors feel free to personally attack alerters and the subjects of alerts, seaglass May 2014 #260

Obviously the hosts (or anyone else) can bring a post to the admins' attention, Nye Bevan May 2014 #264

I guess we are back full circle then. Does it need to be spelled out in the SOP that racist posts seaglass May 2014 #268

Why did the admins choose not to insert such language in the GD SOP? Nye Bevan May 2014 #269

Maybe they thought hosts would use their common sense? Did you see anything about homophobic seaglass May 2014 #274

If so, there would be language in the SOP about hosts "using their common sense". Nye Bevan May 2014 #275

This post was alerted and barely survived (3-4). Jim Lane May 2014 #278

Thanks for your feedback, you are correct, it was unnecessarily rude. n/t seaglass May 2014 #281

No where in the SOP does it say boston bean May 2014 #252

And you are in the small minority that reccd this piece of shit. Good for you. bettyellen May 2014 #328

The persons acting unprofessionally in that discussion were the non-GD hosts. nt ucrdem May 2014 #211

professional = pretending your hands were tied? They certainly were not. bettyellen May 2014 #336

I am not sure of that - it appears that rightly or wrongly, hosts don't feel entitled to lock LeftishBrit May 2014 #238

I wish you hadn't done that, LB... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #242

Part of being a host is refraining from locking posts that do not violate the SOP of the forum, Nye Bevan May 2014 #273

part of it is not "acting like a robot" to only enforce the SOP........... bettyellen May 2014 #461

That's basically saying pintobean May 2014 #465

No, it specifically says to think of MORE than SOP: "consider the Statement of Purpose, but also.... bettyellen May 2014 #466

From the beginning of DU3 pintobean May 2014 #467

If only we haven't seen many hosts disagree, and Skinner say otherwise, I might believe you... bettyellen May 2014 #477

the host we are discussing happily offered to vote lock- if they could trade lock votes on another bettyellen May 2014 #298

As a matter a fact that claim is not true. ucrdem May 2014 #304

here is your post saying you'd not object locking this thread. Please stop with this "hands tied" BS bettyellen May 2014 #307

My vote was WSC from the start and I made no offer to change my vote. ucrdem May 2014 #310

transparency sucks for some people, huh? you refused to lock, but offered a trade. bettyellen May 2014 #315

Actually it's useful in discrediting your efforts to spread false tales about GD hosts so thanks. ucrdem May 2014 #317

what is discredited is the notion you believed your hands were tied here. bettyellen May 2014 #320

No - not so. It wasn't a matter of one vote. LeftishBrit May 2014 #240

Understood. The problem is other hosts pretending their hands are tied when clearly they are not. bettyellen May 2014 #323

Poster has run away... alp227 May 2014 #342

Satire? taught_me_patience May 2014 #183

No, Gavin McInnes. The guy used to be fairly amusing back when he ran Vice, but more recently nomorenomore08 May 2014 #227

For the first few sentences madaboutharry May 2014 #236

"lifted out of this disadvantage within a generation" dipsydoodle May 2014 #244

Yet in the last paragraph in the OP he names 2 Asians and uses the outdated term maddezmom May 2014 #246

For offensiveness nothing really beats dipsydoodle May 2014 #250

oriental is considered offensive in the US when it's used to describe a person , but not if it's JI7 May 2014 #354

damn, 19 recs so far on this racist piece of shit article. m-lekktor May 2014 #272

This racist OP hasn't been hidden yet? octoberlib May 2014 #276

This racist crap survived a jury. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #279

If this was an attempt at humor, it failed miserably. Jamastiene May 2014 #277

If this OP is racist, I would expect that someone would lay down a logical argument debunking it. badtoworse May 2014 #291

Smearing all members of a particular race based upon their purported "privilege" Nye Bevan May 2014 #292

Shouldn't that standard be applied equally to Whites and Asians alike? badtoworse May 2014 #303

That's certainly an interesting point that you raise there (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #306

I thought I did. There was no response from the poster on the items I have mentioned. Xyzse May 2014 #314

You didn't deal with the racist issue and on balance, I think you supported the OP's argument. badtoworse May 2014 #337

Expectation of excellence is a two edged sword Xyzse May 2014 #340

I can't disagree with what you are saying. badtoworse May 2014 #341

Yes Xyzse May 2014 #345

"it is mostly the term for the baseline that people want to be treated." badtoworse May 2014 #349

It's called benevolent racism. nt redqueen May 2014 #343

The article implies that blacks aren't as successful as Asians and whites octoberlib May 2014 #324

I don't believe the article dealt with blacks at all. badtoworse May 2014 #334

Of course it does etherealtruth May 2014 #383

Here's why it's racist: muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #375

muriel could you say a little more about the documentation you mention in your first para? ucrdem May 2014 #376

The Taki magazine article that got Derbyshire fired from National Review muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #379

I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to compile all of that. Starry Messenger May 2014 #420

Thanks muriel, ucrdem May 2014 #426

The article is satire to highlight the double standard being applied in respect of "white privilege" badtoworse May 2014 #442

It demonstrates a lack of comprehension of the term RainDog May 2014 #449

I'm well aware of what the term means badtoworse May 2014 #469

I don't think it has an obvious agenda RainDog May 2014 #481

Would you have felt better if the OP had plagiarized the article instead of citing it? badtoworse May 2014 #500

wut? RainDog May 2014 #513

Stereotypes do not have merit. badtoworse May 2014 #516

This is where we disagree RainDog May 2014 #519

I can't disagree with this post; it's reasonable. badtoworse May 2014 #521

What happened to "white dudes?" KansDem May 2014 #331

Miss Delaware did porn? Doctor_J May 2014 #333

Sad. :( bravenak May 2014 #338

I am curious as to where the admins are on this. I know it got many alerts and emails from hosts bettyellen May 2014 #339

"hosts who did not pretend to have their hands tied" ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #348

I think you did a great job and showed a great deal of integrity and respect for Du and Duers. bettyellen May 2014 #350

Why hasn't Skinner locked this thread? Nye Bevan May 2014 #416

Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste May 2014 #344

kicking because this should stay on page one. bettyellen May 2014 #359

I guess you didn't pintobean May 2014 #361

I think everyone needs to be reminded what they have allowed here. bettyellen May 2014 #363

yeah, if he likes it so much, he shouldn't worry about who's kicking something he rec's. boston bean May 2014 #364

I am kicking it twice a day, every day. bettyellen May 2014 #365

I had figured that out for myself. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #366

Why should we pretend we are better than this anymore? I hope a few people are proud of themselves. bettyellen May 2014 #367

Well, you know what they say about people who can't stand the heat. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #370

Why don't you reply to Post 291? badtoworse May 2014 #371

oh dear. i am sorry you have no ability to discern racism when you see it. most of us here do. bettyellen May 2014 #372

LOL. Exactly the sort of response I was expecting. badtoworse May 2014 #374

It's unfortunate for you that you think the racism there is debatable bettyellen May 2014 #396

Here: Bobbie Jo May 2014 #381

Who's worried? pintobean May 2014 #368

why did you rec it- what appealed to you most? bettyellen May 2014 #373

Please tell me this is a joke? yuiyoshida May 2014 #378

It's the right wing's idea of a joke muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #382

I noticed... yuiyoshida May 2014 #386

I don't think the article is supposed to be a joke, but... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #384

Why is it yuiyoshida May 2014 #385

Context has a lot to do with it... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #388

The context of the article is a libertarian magazine that regularly runs racist pieces muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #392

I meant the context here on DU... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #394

Can you be clearer on what you are calling 'nasty'? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #387

And for the number of responses and hopefully recommends, everyone knows that's a main goal. n/t seaglass May 2014 #390

Could be. I have no idea... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #391

So now you are pro-troll? Including right wing trolls? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #393

Are you replying to my post? I said... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #395

"Truth is, it was just some excellent trolling" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #397

I'm not ignoring a damn thing... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #399

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #400

Congrats! You made the 400th post on this silly thread. TreasonousBastard May 2014 #401

Just wow. Katashi_itto May 2014 #398

Wow, 400 responses. Then again, it is noteworthy that open racism has finally arrived at DU. DanTex May 2014 #402

noteworthy DU says Leave it up too lunasun May 2014 #410

*facepalm*. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #419

CHING CHONG LING LONG Generic Other May 2014 #403

The sad thing is... LAGC May 2014 #404

If he stands by his post, is self-delete really a "courageous" thing to do? Nye Bevan May 2014 #408

We've seen this many times before pintobean May 2014 #411

It's always courageous to admit to being wrong on occasion. LAGC May 2014 #412

This post was alerted bobduca May 2014 #407

lots of alerts on this thread. bettyellen May 2014 #417

Yeah, alert on the one Asian who posted on this thread Generic Other May 2014 #424

I was alerted for revealing what excuses a host was making to defend this thread bettyellen May 2014 #425

Thanks for warning me Generic Other May 2014 #427

Oh, then you probably missed the thread "from the hosts" that wasn't, LOL. bettyellen May 2014 #430

did you see that host was advocating for this to be locked today? PeaceNikki May 2014 #431

It is theater, a CYA because they didn't think this OP was racist at all initially..... bettyellen May 2014 #432

s/he started a new thread about it. PeaceNikki May 2014 #433

Oh jeeze, Nikki. That is hilarious! bettyellen May 2014 #434

He/she has found a reason to lock it now. boston bean May 2014 #435

ha ha bullshit reason- it's because the secrets of the bettyellen May 2014 #436

Let me make sure I understand... DURHAM D May 2014 #437

no, I discussed it here in a subthread........... bettyellen May 2014 #438

You do realize that aside from the Illegals crossing the desert Southwest Demeter May 2014 #406

Ignorant Bullshit lunasun May 2014 #413

+1 i noticed bravenak May 2014 #414

WTF was this about? nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #422

Decent post. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #421

I Cannot Believe You Found a Way` On the Road May 2014 #429

Actually, imo, he violated more than one provision of TOS with this post RainDog May 2014 #443

this thread has been interesting alright, but not for the reason you think. bettyellen May 2014 #444

+1 redqueen May 2014 #446

seriously, either we have a TOS or do not. Right now, I would say we have lost our way. bettyellen May 2014 #450

What we have is a pretty in-your-face example of what community standards really are redqueen May 2014 #451

I think it sort of mirrors what is happening in this country though- people actually embrace liberal bettyellen May 2014 #459

Ignoring the massive amounts of idiocy in the article Taitertots May 2014 #445

I think it really is time to self delete this thing. hrmjustin May 2014 #447

He's too busy over at the Discussionist bashing DU/DUers to come back and self-delete. n/t seaglass May 2014 #452

I wonder if he'll keep harping on this with his ersatz wit, redqueen May 2014 #453

Got any links pintobean May 2014 #454

Not guessing at all, he's very obvious. You don't think you can tell who someone is by his/her seaglass May 2014 #455

No, that's guessing. pintobean May 2014 #456

Nope I'm not guessing, I'm certain. n/t seaglass May 2014 #457

Yep. I knew it was him after a few OPs over there. NuclearDem May 2014 #458

Nazis, sex toy lawsuits, and starving dogs? bettyellen May 2014 #460

A link just for you pintobean - and again, it was never a guess. seaglass May 2014 #529

oh. I have not figured out who is who yet but I thiink I prefer DU. hrmjustin May 2014 #462

Me too. :-) n/t seaglass May 2014 #463

Loo I posted a bit there but I don't care for arguing with them. hrmjustin May 2014 #464

Transparency: a memo (mine) from the host's forum: ucrdem May 2014 #468

Again, you're wrong about this... SidDithers May 2014 #471

He/She leaves out some very important information, doesn't they? boston bean May 2014 #472

hustling for a lock on the Flotus attack thread, whining about Greenwald being as racist as this OP bettyellen May 2014 #480

That is exactly what happened here. Many past and future hosts disagreed with this decision- it bettyellen May 2014 #475

So it's dysfunctional if it doesn't work IAW your preferences. kristopher May 2014 #482

In this case, it didn't work - not b/c of preferences RainDog May 2014 #485

What you don't seem to be able to accept is that people who are LIBERAL and NOT RACIST... kristopher May 2014 #489

I'm not a long term host RainDog May 2014 #491

"a violation of the stated purpose of this site" = TOS = Admin action kristopher May 2014 #492

it violates the SOP of the forum RainDog May 2014 #493

That is nothing but your personal opinion and view of censorship kristopher May 2014 #494

Thanks for the pleasant discussion RainDog May 2014 #495

No, it's not just her personal view. DU has censorship, period. CreekDog May 2014 #530

Censorship is part of the Hosting gig... SidDithers May 2014 #486

If that's what you think censorship is, you are the one that's misplaced. kristopher May 2014 #487

Are you advocating that all sources should be acceptable at DU?... SidDithers May 2014 #488

Why don't you try to get skinner to bring back the banned list and see what he says? kristopher May 2014 #490

You were hustling for locks of a thread insulting FLOTUS, so your excuse is not cutting it. As other bettyellen May 2014 #476

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers May 2014 #470

Good god almighty. What a clusterf*ck. A few notes if I may The Straight Story May 2014 #496

Right wing hate sites are not appropriate to provide content on DU. RainDog May 2014 #497

"easier to bury things we don't like than to confront them." badtoworse May 2014 #498

let's ignore that dozens here confronted the OP for posting racist twaddle, okay... bettyellen May 2014 #499

Therein lies the source of outrage. Lasher May 2014 #527

you used DU to spread hostility towards Asians CreekDog May 2014 #502

I totally agree that "privilege" threads that single out particular races in a negative manner Nye Bevan May 2014 #504

Do you honestly believe the point of the OP was to spread hostility towards Asians? badtoworse May 2014 #505

I think it's all about pintobean May 2014 #507

Certainly, the mystique and majesty of the Hosts has taken a hit with this thread. Nye Bevan May 2014 #503

It would seem Skinner chose to let the OP wear this thread around his neck. Ikonoklast May 2014 #506

Unbelievable. NuclearDem May 2014 #509

+1 n/t JTFrog May 2014 #510

+1000 Starry Messenger May 2014 #514

There's no harm in a conciliatory gesture. ucrdem May 2014 #512

The anger, the meta host controversy...the confusion...This *may* be the thread that broke DU! Romulox May 2014 #501

I assume the article was written at least somewhat tongue in cheek KamaAina May 2014 #508

Glenn Greenwald and "TakiMag person Gavin McInnes" appear on May 13 Fox Business show ucrdem May 2014 #511

Greenwald again? Why did you bring him up in the hosts thread again? bettyellen May 2014 #523

shame kick. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #515

thanks... ukashkartim May 2014 #517

Welcome to DU, ukashkartim. n/t FSogol May 2014 #522

As an Asian from Hawaii, I happen to think it's satire mainer May 2014 #524

Frank DeLima and his ethnic humor mainer May 2014 #525

This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak May 2014 #526

ROFLMAO McCamy Taylor May 2014 #528

I'm trying to figure out how this thread is still allowed to remain open. It is the most racist shit Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #531

No, Idea... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #534