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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Tue May 13, 2014, 03:41 PM May 2014

Tackling Asian Privilege [View all]

Amidst the hubris of the pope calling it quits and Miss Delaware relinquishing her sash due to porn allegations, it’s important we take a step back and discuss the elephant in the room—namely, racism. While the world collapses around us and we all complain about how hard it is to get by, people of color are forced to look up to our position and say, “I’d give the world for your problems.” This is because no matter how bad things appear to be, they are always worse when you are born without privileges.

Nobody clutches their purse to their side when an Asian walks into the elevator. If an Asian applies for a job at a bank or on the police force, he or she is welcomed with open arms. When an Asian commits a crime, people are shocked. When an Asian is appointed to the head of the Department of Energy, everyone knowingly nods their head. Asian privilege pervades every part of our day-to-day life and it’s time they joined the conversation about race.

Though they comprise less than 4.8% of the American population, they make up 8.3% of all doctors. Only 2.3% of doctors are African American, yet they’re 13% of the population. Thirty percent of African American men will go to jail, but only 1.6% of prisoners are Asian. Nobody sees the problem with that?

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The reason for this is simple: PRIVILEGE.

Though many Asians come here with little or no money and live in rough neighborhoods, they are lifted out of this disadvantage within a generation and are soon living an upper-middle-class lifestyle. This is because in America, Asians live a disproportionately advantaged life where things are simply handed to them. Asians turn on the TV and they see George Takei driving a spaceship. When they’re told he’s a fictional character, they jump to real-life astronaut Dr. Eugene Trinh. Asians are overrepresented in science, medicine, law, finance, education, and virtually everything that generates wealth. They are drastically overrepresented in Nobel Prizes. These arrogant Orientals flaunt the racist moniker “model minority.” As a people, these Asians need to recognize they got to where they are not by the virtue of hard work but by stepping on the backs of others. I’m not saying Asians should be paying the rest of us reparations, but a simple “dùi bù qĭ” would be nice. (Thanks, Yahoo! co-founder Jerry Yang for the link!) They need to recognize that their position is innately unfair. They need to acknowledge they are lucky. And most importantly, they need to stop it right now.

http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print

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Tackling Asian Privilege [View all] The Straight Story May 2014 OP
... oldhippie May 2014 #1
LOL, + 42 Xyzse May 2014 #5
Where's that head exploding gif? LittleBlue May 2014 #7
Let me check Xyzse May 2014 #16
I can't believe you posted this. boston bean May 2014 #2
I didn't write it. And how is it racist? (nt) The Straight Story May 2014 #3
You posted that shit here. Read it and determine how racist it is yourself. boston bean May 2014 #4
Why don't you explain how it's racist. You made the accusation. badtoworse May 2014 #6
So, you deny privilege exists? (nt) The Straight Story May 2014 #10
Oh yeah, that's exactly what I think. boston bean May 2014 #13
SCORE! oldhippie May 2014 #17
Hardly surpising BainsBane May 2014 #224
Yeah, I DO have certain views towards certain people of color ... oldhippie May 2014 #266
Why have you recommended an OP from a right wing racist website muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #299
Whooshed right over your head ... oldhippie May 2014 #356
I'm beginning to think I don't want to understand your views muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #357
" ... it looks very bad for you." oldhippie May 2014 #362
I would deny that that particular ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #72
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #12
I take it as a thinly veiled slap at the W/P ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #53
Par for the all white country club course alcibiades_mystery May 2014 #138
TBH, more mealy-mouthed, racist libertarian trolling! Yep. bettyellen May 2014 #161
the website is publishedby a guy who teamed up with Pat Buchanan and founded the American Conservati LanternWaste May 2014 #8
read this: boston bean May 2014 #14
... Yet, it is an OP on a site called Democratic Underground etherealtruth May 2014 #62
And it is so unsurprising who posted it here, and who's celebrating redqueen May 2014 #65
No, no surprises etherealtruth May 2014 #77
11 recs so far for this racist garbage. redqueen May 2014 #89
I have to admit, I too, have checked to see who would rec something like this n/t etherealtruth May 2014 #90
Yeah... chervilant May 2014 #355
Rec does not mean 'I agree'. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #473
Quick question about your signature FrodosPet May 2014 #79
In this country the passenger's right to a public accommodation wins every time etherealtruth May 2014 #86
Unfortunately, I have dealt with both of those situations FrodosPet May 2014 #94
My sig line is a reminder for tolerance etherealtruth May 2014 #110
misogynist too? and the OP is a fan of his writings. Im shocked, I tell you! bettyellen May 2014 #167
This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen May 2014 #167
Interesting. The Straight Story May 2014 #15
No, it's a suggestion for you to reconsider the post. boston bean May 2014 #19
White privilege does exist. How is it relevant when discussing other privileges? The Straight Story May 2014 #22
fucking figure it out yourself. This entire thread makes me sick. boston bean May 2014 #24
LOL snooper2 May 2014 #282
"I'm out. I won't have any part in this." pintobean May 2014 #288
Or merely pointing out relevant ideology of an author sourced. LanternWaste May 2014 #27
You do realize ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #78
I don't think he noticed that. Squinch May 2014 #95
Trouble is it's written by a rightpwing racist white guy Scootaloo May 2014 #360
The OP read like satire to me. Had no idea I was supposed to take it seriously. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #478
Consider who posted it. redqueen May 2014 #483
Noted. Not surprised either. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #484
It's simply relevant context... regardless of any projection. LanternWaste May 2014 #20
I think I'm seeing some great Machiavellian tactics Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #9
Oh, please, don't kid yourself .... oldhippie May 2014 #21
Nah. It's just one guy flame baiting. Like he always does when he is feeling sorry for himself. Squinch May 2014 #42
If that is true, there must be a perpetual pity party going on etherealtruth May 2014 #88
Absolutely Right! Butch McQueen May 2014 #46
I thought it was coordinated from outside from the beginning... KoKo May 2014 #389
OFFS rudolph the red May 2014 #11
How DARE you start a thread on DU asserting that a particular racial group is "privileged". Nye Bevan May 2014 #18
Using the success to try and deflect the difficulties minorities face boston bean May 2014 #23
"Racist" You keep using that word. Bok_Tukalo May 2014 #26
The word "Racist" was not used in the post you reply to intaglio May 2014 #518
I see what you did there..... Mr_Harshaw May 2014 #51
After 9-11 it was mostly Asians shot and killed JI7 May 2014 #25
what ? nobody wants to respond to this, why don't white peopel have to worry about being attacked JI7 May 2014 #29
Unless the "white people" is Jewish - the big exception, as always. Raksha May 2014 #311
British Asians too LeftishBrit May 2014 #175
No one seems to want to answer you! Squinch May 2014 #428
Actually... Xyzse May 2014 #28
Not to mention the glass ceiling many Asians face woolldog May 2014 #70
and look at right wingers trying to get rid of Eric Shinseki JI7 May 2014 #73
That is probably payback for General Shinseki telling congress several thousand troops were needed FarCenter May 2014 #85
that's a stereotype CreekDog May 2014 #129
Not a stereotype; it is a fact FarCenter May 2014 #155
Some people just can't grasp the fact ..... oldhippie May 2014 #166
I am truly sorry that you even had to see this moronic OP. Number23 May 2014 #137
N'ah it's ok. Xyzse May 2014 #144
This WHOLE THING... AsahinaKimi May 2014 #380
Did for me for about a second before I shrugged, and... Xyzse May 2014 #439
I am late JustAnotherGen May 2014 #441
you seem to see yourself as a victim in everything , but i can see why, you are resentful of others JI7 May 2014 #30
Never about me. About the discussion The Straight Story May 2014 #37
there have been many threads about asians success but they rarely get many comments, yet you post JI7 May 2014 #38
I can agree that wealth/power is the biggest sort of privilege. Xyzse May 2014 #43
It's always about you MattBaggins May 2014 #57
it is about you, you posted it and you defended it as not racist CreekDog May 2014 #130
Exactly. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #300
So you reach down into the bowels of a racist website boston bean May 2014 #283
Not funny, not appropriate frazzled May 2014 #31
The "article" is patently stupid etherealtruth May 2014 #36
it's pretty clear when a person has a certain history JI7 May 2014 #39
Oh believe me, I am aware etherealtruth May 2014 #40
You've got to be kidding me. NuclearDem May 2014 #32
i think the OP identifies with the author , why else would he post something like this JI7 May 2014 #33
it is painfully obvious, isn't it? nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #81
Finally the truth of the matter exposed. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #301
this reminds me of republicans bringing up Al Sharpton and cases of black on white violence JI7 May 2014 #34
Didn't you hear-- Jamaal510 May 2014 #169
The results are in: 1000words May 2014 #35
Had the alerter walked the jury thru WHY the source was "disgusting" alp227 May 2014 #352
I did just that in the alert I sent, in fact Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #358
You don't seem to have much faith in your fellow DUers. 1000words May 2014 #369
That's a major flaw in the alert system. LAGC May 2014 #377
Agreed. The first alert is not always the most detailed/accurate one. PeaceNikki May 2014 #415
Just a few snippets from this disgusting article: NuclearDem May 2014 #41
Weird if you replaced Asian with white on all of those people would celebrate you here. dilby May 2014 #44
You're not supposed to notice things like that. badtoworse May 2014 #47
bs, nobody is claiming white privilege means every white person has it great in life JI7 May 2014 #48
Ah, the reverse racism card. NuclearDem May 2014 #52
I am a Jews so I can call it out. dilby May 2014 #54
Privilege has been defined constantly here. NuclearDem May 2014 #61
Ah yes the old everyone thinks that way so it has to be true. dilby May 2014 #64
Enough with the guilt already! badtoworse May 2014 #69
I am sorry is my Jewish privilege offending you? dilby May 2014 #76
Not at all. My wife is Jewish, so I understand guilt very well. badtoworse May 2014 #80
Wow, do you tell your wife enough with the guilt too? dilby May 2014 #84
It's a bit of a game. She tells me she has a black belt in guilt. badtoworse May 2014 #96
Sorry man, did not mean to come off hard. dilby May 2014 #107
No problem. This whole privilege theme has gotten heated at times. badtoworse May 2014 #140
This post and the author who did it do nothing to unify RainDog May 2014 #448
I'm Jewish too, so maybe that gives me the "privilege" to disagree with you Raksha May 2014 #329
+1 lunasun May 2014 #409
"Privilege is mostly about how other people perceive you." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #418
"arrogant Orientals"- and the hosts left this racist pile of shit standing. Feigning impotence again bettyellen May 2014 #165
Oh my Aerows May 2014 #45
Can't rec this. No offense. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #49
Hope this guys does not research us Jews. dilby May 2014 #50
Look at Jene Simmons. SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #63
Gene Simmons is not white. dilby May 2014 #68
This kinda sounds like what sterling said in his interviews AngryAmish May 2014 #99
Yeah except sterling is a racist, but according to DU he is a bigot. dilby May 2014 #102
To be fair, Jewish folks are shut out of important positions of power in the US. AngryAmish May 2014 #106
We are only 2% and yes we rise to the top. dilby May 2014 #109
Wonderful! I appreciate every word you have written. nilesobek May 2014 #223
Isn't Takimag a right wing Mag? etherealtruth May 2014 #55
It's pretty extremely right wing and very, very racist Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #58
WTF ... why is this trash allowed here? etherealtruth May 2014 #60
Because "community standards" redqueen May 2014 #71
The community standards accept sites on par with Stormfront etherealtruth May 2014 #75
Yep. Misogynist/MRA shit, racist shit... the two go hand in hand redqueen May 2014 #91
As are... opiate69 May 2014 #520
Taki Theodoracopulos is very RW LeftishBrit May 2014 #67
Quite odd ... I had to educate myself (with the help of other's/ thank you) about the site etherealtruth May 2014 #74
Steve Sailor and John Derbyshire have columns there AngryAmish May 2014 #98
Why the hell would a jury allow garbage from this site to be reposted here? etherealtruth May 2014 #108
Yes the source is not appropriate for DU MattBaggins May 2014 #134
That's the understatement of the decade LeftishBrit May 2014 #174
As this thread went on last night I further researched this hate site etherealtruth May 2014 #176
Gavin McInnes has written for VDARE too... SidDithers May 2014 #179
Racist drivel. morningfog May 2014 #56
I don't like hating on race, sex, and station, and I am learning that white trash like me Dragonfli May 2014 #59
+1000. But please don't go. nt. polly7 May 2014 #66
As a minority who represent 2% of this great Nation. please don't give up dilby May 2014 #93
*Of course* none of us "get unicorns and parades every time you wake up in the morning." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #423
Get it all out of your system, white dudes. Starry Messenger May 2014 #82
They are, indeed. 1000words May 2014 #100
pulling further back, we see how Asians weren't always a "model minority" MisterP May 2014 #83
OMG! I always thought of the Yellow Peril as movie trophe. That's disgusting! freshwest Jun 2014 #532
What were you reading that you ended up on that site? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #87
I notice a lot of people are attacking the messenger and not the message. dilby May 2014 #92
Would you say that about something from Rush Limbaugh? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #101
If Rush Limbaugh or David Duke said the sky was blue should I disagree? dilby May 2014 #103
If Rush Limbaugh said there's no such thing as white privilege muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #104
There is an old Jewish Proverb "A broken clock can be right twice a day" dilby May 2014 #105
I have a very sick feeling there are some that would applaud Rush ... etherealtruth May 2014 #111
Andrew Sullivan is a big fan of The Bell Curve Fumesucker May 2014 #115
I have no doubt that the same folk reccing this post love those posts, too etherealtruth May 2014 #116
Nope, actually it's just about the opposite Fumesucker May 2014 #118
Whew ... I thought the Bell Curve garbage had been lauded (here) etherealtruth May 2014 #124
Just out of curiosity... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #117
Either a source is "right wing" or it isn't Fumesucker May 2014 #126
Things generally aren't that clear-cut, though Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #127
you are equating posting something racist with something positive about Obama ? JI7 May 2014 #128
I wasn't comparing it Fumesucker May 2014 #133
most interactions people have will be with people who are not wealthy, and poor whites can be racist JI7 May 2014 #136
DU is a comedy act, at this point. 1000words May 2014 #145
Sullivan's racism is one of the main reasons why I don't care for him Chathamization May 2014 #474
Right wing messages from VERY right wing sites should be carefully considered and discussed, huh? etherealtruth May 2014 #112
yeah, that's my take away and if you don't carefully consider and discuss boston bean May 2014 #160
This is madness etherealtruth May 2014 #177
I'll admit swine may shit out a few pearls of wisdom, but this ain't one. n/t moriah May 2014 #157
If you can't make your point without resorting to posting from a known RW racist maddezmom May 2014 #97
Once the source was exposed the OP fled the thread MattBaggins May 2014 #143
Terrible article. bravenak May 2014 #113
My main issue with the article is that is boston bean May 2014 #114
It sucked all around. bravenak May 2014 #119
Yeah, it sure did suck all the way around. boston bean May 2014 #120
Me neither. bravenak May 2014 #122
Why are you posting the racist rantings of a racist here? CreekDog May 2014 #121
TOS violation, posting racist rantings of a racist CreekDog May 2014 #123
Even though this post survived a jury, remember your alerts still go to the Admins. Starry Messenger May 2014 #125
I never thought i would see the day where linking to a right wing hate site was acceptable etherealtruth May 2014 #131
I'm pretty stunned. Starry Messenger May 2014 #135
You know.. I have to say Texasgal May 2014 #132
i love the recommend list CreekDog May 2014 #139
Yeah, I saw it. Take a look at this lovely piece at the website: freshwest Jun 2014 #533
As an Asian American I will go on record: Asian privilege exists. alp227 May 2014 #141
I'll agree somewhat. It depends on the family and culture. IronLionZion May 2014 #163
There's so much subversive win in this thread 1000words May 2014 #142
Hey Straight, you buddies at talkmag.com are a bunch of bigots. U4ikLefty May 2014 #146
Seems like something a bunch of bigots would post and recommend. JTFrog May 2014 #308
Yep and not the first time for Straight lunasun May 2014 #405
this is the type of shit cheered on by racist wingnuts everywhere JI7 May 2014 #147
+100000 bettyellen May 2014 #162
I honestly don't know what's worse Number23 May 2014 #148
good question CreekDog May 2014 #150
is this racist site on your regular reading list? CreekDog May 2014 #149
Delete this racist bullshit post and article. boston bean May 2014 #151
Agree fully. These "privilege" threads are not at all helpful in working to end racism. Nye Bevan May 2014 #153
cute. but just give more insight into what you think. boston bean May 2014 #154
Yes, I know my position on the usefulness of the "privilege" threads has been a little unclear. Nye Bevan May 2014 #170
I thought you were "Done" and "Out" with post #24? snooper2 May 2014 #284
You have some sort of problem with my continuing posting against this racist bullshit? boston bean May 2014 #285
I just feel bad since you lied to us snooper2 May 2014 #287
I thought Asian Privilege meant they're all kung fu masters with giant robot battlesuits Orrex May 2014 #152
Why is this right wing racist trash allowed here? myrna minx May 2014 #156
Tiger mom's fault! mainer May 2014 #158
It's right wing satire muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #173
Come on guys, it's satire. mainer May 2014 #159
Thats what I got out of it also. Go Vols May 2014 #172
the link is not to satire. no evidence the OP thinks so either. bettyellen May 2014 #188
Any single white or Jewish or whatever women want to create super-privileged babies, IronLionZion May 2014 #164
What a fucking disgusting OP YoungDemCA May 2014 #171
Kick for exposure.... SidDithers May 2014 #178
Why on Earth would you post this garbage here? This is disgusting and has no business on this... hrmjustin May 2014 #180
I'd self delete this if I were you nt steve2470 May 2014 #181
Now that this is kicked, yet again, for all to see... I was hoping you'd delete it at some point ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #182
While I agree that the "privilege" threads, including this one, are unhelpful, Nye Bevan May 2014 #184
No it would not in this case unfortunately. We, as a group, are better than this. ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #185
The op should be told how hurtful and inappropriate it was to post this. hrmjustin May 2014 #186
it made it past the hosts because one held the vote hostage- asking for a lock elsewhere bettyellen May 2014 #187
Asking for a lock on what, exactly? That seems kind of relevant. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #189
GD hosts do not have authority to lock OPs based on sources. ucrdem May 2014 #190
TOS violation. Oh, but I forgot- you argued it wasn't racist at all. Thn you said it was equal to bettyellen May 2014 #199
Hosts are not admins and do not make TOS assessments. nt ucrdem May 2014 #201
You yourself was making that assesment of the Mobama thread you hated. There was no integrity in bettyellen May 2014 #209
Don't bullshit me. of course you do. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #208
No we really don't. I explained all this in a very nice OP that you can read in my journal. ucrdem May 2014 #214
Evasion of responsibility in a difficult situation? Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #215
Pretending he could not vote otherwise while offering to change the vote for a gimme? bettyellen May 2014 #347
even after hearing about the extreme RW hate there, he argued it was satirical- does that make any bettyellen May 2014 #218
Rumors are fine but as a GD host I actually did due diligence. Did you? ucrdem May 2014 #219
host have discretion to do the right thing- you would have locked it if you had your way on another bettyellen May 2014 #220
We do not at present have the authority to lock either. I'm sorry. nt ucrdem May 2014 #222
sorry you did, you just ignored the evidence presented to you. boston bean May 2014 #290
No- you offered to vote lock as part of a "deal" - so obviously you knew you could lock it. bettyellen May 2014 #293
Actually, that isn't true, and you are spreading false tales about GD hosts. ucrdem May 2014 #302
you pretended your hands were tied, and brought that BS to GD. "I don't object to locking this one" bettyellen May 2014 #325
I also said we needed a consensus, which we did not and do not have. ucrdem May 2014 #327
You said a lot of embarrassing things, this OP was not racist, then it was.... bettyellen May 2014 #330
I thought you said you were done? ucrdem May 2014 #332
Transparency is good. bettyellen May 2014 #335
I bet you'd like it to disappear now. n/t JTFrog May 2014 #346
Oh, I'm sure you would. Starry Messenger May 2014 #353
today they made up a brand new reason why this should now be locked, LOL.... bettyellen May 2014 #440
Yes they do. You're absolutely wrong about this... SidDithers May 2014 #280
Not sure this is the same post but found this from Skinner maddezmom May 2014 #286
this is the one where he states it clearer boston bean May 2014 #289
There are half a dozen posts from SKinner where he says whatever the hosts decide- pretending they bettyellen May 2014 #294
And this one too... SidDithers May 2014 #312
That pertains to conspiracy theories. ucrdem May 2014 #319
But the sop says no conspiracy theories pintobean May 2014 #321
yeah, the lovely explaination we were treated to about the process hosts use? Complete BS. bettyellen May 2014 #193
That isn't true. A jury left this OP 5-2 and hosts have no authority to lock ad libidem. ucrdem May 2014 #198
TOS violations are lockable if the host want to. Skinner is clear on that. You tried to swap votes bettyellen May 2014 #204
Not in DU3. Here's what Skinner said in ATA on Monday of this week: ucrdem May 2014 #207
Unreliable Site= RW Racist Hate Site? On what planet? bettyellen May 2014 #212
That doesn't speak to TOS violations, but to "unreliable sources". Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #217
GD hosts have one task: to lock OPs that violate GD SOP. Period. ucrdem May 2014 #221
curious what you know about mods? you joined DU almost 2 years after the mod system CreekDog May 2014 #234
You've been advocating locking threads because you don't like the freaking "tone" or the way an Warren Stupidity May 2014 #245
he offered to vote lock on THIS THREAD, and that is why his exlaination does not fly.... bettyellen May 2014 #295
I made no such offer to lock this thread and you should continue this in the host's forum. nt ucrdem May 2014 #305
hide the truth and peddle some "message from hosts forum" NO. here is your post: bettyellen May 2014 #309
I made no mention of changing my vote ucrdem May 2014 #316
wow. So you stirred shit up in gd and then complain that people are responding in gd? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #318
You know Warren, in Skinner's advice to hosts he asks that they act in good faith: ucrdem May 2014 #322
I think you have been getting a bit of feedback that your recent actions have not Warren Stupidity May 2014 #351
That's not true at all. There were four votes to leave... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #191
The last tally before the OP self-deleted was 6-4 leave. ucrdem May 2014 #192
you offered to change your vote to get a lock elsewhere. is that the "process" you explained to DU? bettyellen May 2014 #194
One vote either way would not have achieved consensus to lock ucrdem May 2014 #195
oh, here is the vote trader explining the rules of hosting again. how'd that work last time? bettyellen May 2014 #206
Yeah, that sounds about right... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #197
Thank you for pointing that out. ucrdem May 2014 #200
No worries. And thank you... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #213
It is a TOS violation, but said host did offer to change his vote, if someone would lock something bettyellen May 2014 #203
Juries enforce the DU TOS, not forum hosts. Lasher May 2014 #225
no that's wrong, juries do not enforce the TOS CreekDog May 2014 #233
If Admins and MIRT enforce the TOS, that doesn't go to say juries do not. Lasher May 2014 #239
So, the SOP must say no racist posts from racist websites before a host could lock? boston bean May 2014 #255
that so many host were absent is a real shame, but that vote was held hostage for a Mobama lock... bettyellen May 2014 #196
It was about the same number of GD hosts as for most other alerts... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #202
I am sorry, but one host was not acting on good faith with the horse trading BS.... bettyellen May 2014 #205
There's been plenty of attempts to horse-trade in the past. Violet_Crumble May 2014 #210
Sorry, the results of decison like this obviously matter very much to many of us here at DU bettyellen May 2014 #216
It matters very much to me too, and I say the thread stands. Lasher May 2014 #226
So you think an OP citing a racist, right-wing site is appropriate for GD then? Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #228
I think it's very clear. pintobean May 2014 #229
The community, in this case, is wrong. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #230
Well, it's not the job of hosts pintobean May 2014 #235
if hosts pretend they can't vote lock, when offering to do so.... bettyellen May 2014 #313
yes it violates the SOP, linking to racist drivel from hate sites by hate authors is not in the SOP CreekDog May 2014 #231
Two and a half years of this system pintobean May 2014 #237
I always understood that GD hosts could only lock threads for SOP violations, Nye Bevan May 2014 #241
you complain about OP's, posts and threads all the time CreekDog May 2014 #247
Your replies have nothing to do pintobean May 2014 #248
What are your reasons for recommending the OP? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #297
To be clear, Lasher has recommended the OP muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #296
I caught that. Some think RW racist libertarian nuttery is perfectly fine for GD.... bettyellen May 2014 #326
Maybe you'd like to know my reasoning for recommending this thread. Lasher May 2014 #479
however if the word "gun" appeared you would have voted to lock it, post haste CreekDog May 2014 #232
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the word "gun" appear in the GD SOP, Nye Bevan May 2014 #243
Does it really need to be spelled out that racist threads are not allowed in GD? I don't get this seaglass May 2014 #249
Isn't it up to juries, as opposed to hosts, Nye Bevan May 2014 #251
Yes, if we could be assured that jurors were not racists or incredibly stupid. Since we can't, seaglass May 2014 #253
Considering his responses upthread, it appears he agreed with the OP. boston bean May 2014 #254
Are you referring to post 153 where I agreed with you that this thread should be deleted? Nye Bevan May 2014 #258
I'm referring to all of your postings throughout the thread. boston bean May 2014 #259
I've consistently stated that this thread is unhelpful, Nye Bevan May 2014 #262
People only need to read your postings in this thread here to come to a conclusion of what it is you boston bean May 2014 #263
I don't even recall using the phrase "white privilege" anywhere in this thread (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #265
ok boston bean May 2014 #267
Wait.... so that's me "agreeing" with the OP? Nye Bevan May 2014 #270
Yeah the posting is bizarre and difficult to follow, but let me help boston bean May 2014 #271
In DU3 the admins generally defer to jury decisions. Nye Bevan May 2014 #256
Hosting duties and jury duties are two different things. boston bean May 2014 #257
Am I wrong in my understanding that the GD hosts are there to enforce the GD SOP, Nye Bevan May 2014 #261
Yeah right. That's why jurors feel free to personally attack alerters and the subjects of alerts, seaglass May 2014 #260
Obviously the hosts (or anyone else) can bring a post to the admins' attention, Nye Bevan May 2014 #264
I guess we are back full circle then. Does it need to be spelled out in the SOP that racist posts seaglass May 2014 #268
Why did the admins choose not to insert such language in the GD SOP? Nye Bevan May 2014 #269
Maybe they thought hosts would use their common sense? Did you see anything about homophobic seaglass May 2014 #274
If so, there would be language in the SOP about hosts "using their common sense". Nye Bevan May 2014 #275
This post was alerted and barely survived (3-4). Jim Lane May 2014 #278
Thanks for your feedback, you are correct, it was unnecessarily rude. n/t seaglass May 2014 #281
No where in the SOP does it say boston bean May 2014 #252
And you are in the small minority that reccd this piece of shit. Good for you. bettyellen May 2014 #328
The persons acting unprofessionally in that discussion were the non-GD hosts. nt ucrdem May 2014 #211
professional = pretending your hands were tied? They certainly were not. bettyellen May 2014 #336
I am not sure of that - it appears that rightly or wrongly, hosts don't feel entitled to lock LeftishBrit May 2014 #238
I wish you hadn't done that, LB... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #242
Part of being a host is refraining from locking posts that do not violate the SOP of the forum, Nye Bevan May 2014 #273
part of it is not "acting like a robot" to only enforce the SOP........... bettyellen May 2014 #461
That's basically saying pintobean May 2014 #465
No, it specifically says to think of MORE than SOP: "consider the Statement of Purpose, but also.... bettyellen May 2014 #466
From the beginning of DU3 pintobean May 2014 #467
If only we haven't seen many hosts disagree, and Skinner say otherwise, I might believe you... bettyellen May 2014 #477
the host we are discussing happily offered to vote lock- if they could trade lock votes on another bettyellen May 2014 #298
As a matter a fact that claim is not true. ucrdem May 2014 #304
here is your post saying you'd not object locking this thread. Please stop with this "hands tied" BS bettyellen May 2014 #307
My vote was WSC from the start and I made no offer to change my vote. ucrdem May 2014 #310
transparency sucks for some people, huh? you refused to lock, but offered a trade. bettyellen May 2014 #315
Actually it's useful in discrediting your efforts to spread false tales about GD hosts so thanks. ucrdem May 2014 #317
what is discredited is the notion you believed your hands were tied here. bettyellen May 2014 #320
No - not so. It wasn't a matter of one vote. LeftishBrit May 2014 #240
Understood. The problem is other hosts pretending their hands are tied when clearly they are not. bettyellen May 2014 #323
Poster has run away... alp227 May 2014 #342
Satire? taught_me_patience May 2014 #183
No, Gavin McInnes. The guy used to be fairly amusing back when he ran Vice, but more recently nomorenomore08 May 2014 #227
For the first few sentences madaboutharry May 2014 #236
"lifted out of this disadvantage within a generation" dipsydoodle May 2014 #244
Yet in the last paragraph in the OP he names 2 Asians and uses the outdated term maddezmom May 2014 #246
For offensiveness nothing really beats dipsydoodle May 2014 #250
oriental is considered offensive in the US when it's used to describe a person , but not if it's JI7 May 2014 #354
damn, 19 recs so far on this racist piece of shit article. m-lekktor May 2014 #272
This racist OP hasn't been hidden yet? octoberlib May 2014 #276
This racist crap survived a jury. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #279
If this was an attempt at humor, it failed miserably. Jamastiene May 2014 #277
If this OP is racist, I would expect that someone would lay down a logical argument debunking it. badtoworse May 2014 #291
Smearing all members of a particular race based upon their purported "privilege" Nye Bevan May 2014 #292
Shouldn't that standard be applied equally to Whites and Asians alike? badtoworse May 2014 #303
That's certainly an interesting point that you raise there (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #306
I thought I did. There was no response from the poster on the items I have mentioned. Xyzse May 2014 #314
You didn't deal with the racist issue and on balance, I think you supported the OP's argument. badtoworse May 2014 #337
Expectation of excellence is a two edged sword Xyzse May 2014 #340
I can't disagree with what you are saying. badtoworse May 2014 #341
Yes Xyzse May 2014 #345
"it is mostly the term for the baseline that people want to be treated." badtoworse May 2014 #349
It's called benevolent racism. nt redqueen May 2014 #343
The article implies that blacks aren't as successful as Asians and whites octoberlib May 2014 #324
I don't believe the article dealt with blacks at all. badtoworse May 2014 #334
Of course it does etherealtruth May 2014 #383
Here's why it's racist: muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #375
muriel could you say a little more about the documentation you mention in your first para? ucrdem May 2014 #376
The Taki magazine article that got Derbyshire fired from National Review muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #379
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to compile all of that. Starry Messenger May 2014 #420
Thanks muriel, ucrdem May 2014 #426
The article is satire to highlight the double standard being applied in respect of "white privilege" badtoworse May 2014 #442
It demonstrates a lack of comprehension of the term RainDog May 2014 #449
I'm well aware of what the term means badtoworse May 2014 #469
I don't think it has an obvious agenda RainDog May 2014 #481
Would you have felt better if the OP had plagiarized the article instead of citing it? badtoworse May 2014 #500
wut? RainDog May 2014 #513
Stereotypes do not have merit. badtoworse May 2014 #516
This is where we disagree RainDog May 2014 #519
I can't disagree with this post; it's reasonable. badtoworse May 2014 #521
What happened to "white dudes?" KansDem May 2014 #331
Miss Delaware did porn? Doctor_J May 2014 #333
Sad. :( bravenak May 2014 #338
I am curious as to where the admins are on this. I know it got many alerts and emails from hosts bettyellen May 2014 #339
"hosts who did not pretend to have their hands tied" ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #348
I think you did a great job and showed a great deal of integrity and respect for Du and Duers. bettyellen May 2014 #350
Why hasn't Skinner locked this thread? Nye Bevan May 2014 #416
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste May 2014 #344
kicking because this should stay on page one. bettyellen May 2014 #359
I guess you didn't pintobean May 2014 #361
I think everyone needs to be reminded what they have allowed here. bettyellen May 2014 #363
yeah, if he likes it so much, he shouldn't worry about who's kicking something he rec's. boston bean May 2014 #364
I am kicking it twice a day, every day. bettyellen May 2014 #365
I had figured that out for myself. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #366
Why should we pretend we are better than this anymore? I hope a few people are proud of themselves. bettyellen May 2014 #367
Well, you know what they say about people who can't stand the heat. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #370
Why don't you reply to Post 291? badtoworse May 2014 #371
oh dear. i am sorry you have no ability to discern racism when you see it. most of us here do. bettyellen May 2014 #372
LOL. Exactly the sort of response I was expecting. badtoworse May 2014 #374
It's unfortunate for you that you think the racism there is debatable bettyellen May 2014 #396
Here: Bobbie Jo May 2014 #381
Who's worried? pintobean May 2014 #368
why did you rec it- what appealed to you most? bettyellen May 2014 #373
Please tell me this is a joke? yuiyoshida May 2014 #378
It's the right wing's idea of a joke muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #382
I noticed... yuiyoshida May 2014 #386
I don't think the article is supposed to be a joke, but... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #384
Why is it yuiyoshida May 2014 #385
Context has a lot to do with it... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #388
The context of the article is a libertarian magazine that regularly runs racist pieces muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #392
I meant the context here on DU... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #394
Can you be clearer on what you are calling 'nasty'? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #387
And for the number of responses and hopefully recommends, everyone knows that's a main goal. n/t seaglass May 2014 #390
Could be. I have no idea... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #391
So now you are pro-troll? Including right wing trolls? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #393
Are you replying to my post? I said... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #395
"Truth is, it was just some excellent trolling" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #397
I'm not ignoring a damn thing... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #399
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #400
Congrats! You made the 400th post on this silly thread. TreasonousBastard May 2014 #401
Just wow. Katashi_itto May 2014 #398
Wow, 400 responses. Then again, it is noteworthy that open racism has finally arrived at DU. DanTex May 2014 #402
noteworthy DU says Leave it up too lunasun May 2014 #410
*facepalm*. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #419
CHING CHONG LING LONG Generic Other May 2014 #403
The sad thing is... LAGC May 2014 #404
If he stands by his post, is self-delete really a "courageous" thing to do? Nye Bevan May 2014 #408
We've seen this many times before pintobean May 2014 #411
It's always courageous to admit to being wrong on occasion. LAGC May 2014 #412
This post was alerted bobduca May 2014 #407
lots of alerts on this thread. bettyellen May 2014 #417
Yeah, alert on the one Asian who posted on this thread Generic Other May 2014 #424
I was alerted for revealing what excuses a host was making to defend this thread bettyellen May 2014 #425
Thanks for warning me Generic Other May 2014 #427
Oh, then you probably missed the thread "from the hosts" that wasn't, LOL. bettyellen May 2014 #430
did you see that host was advocating for this to be locked today? PeaceNikki May 2014 #431
It is theater, a CYA because they didn't think this OP was racist at all initially..... bettyellen May 2014 #432
s/he started a new thread about it. PeaceNikki May 2014 #433
Oh jeeze, Nikki. That is hilarious! bettyellen May 2014 #434
He/she has found a reason to lock it now. boston bean May 2014 #435
ha ha bullshit reason- it's because the secrets of the bettyellen May 2014 #436
Let me make sure I understand... DURHAM D May 2014 #437
no, I discussed it here in a subthread........... bettyellen May 2014 #438
You do realize that aside from the Illegals crossing the desert Southwest Demeter May 2014 #406
Ignorant Bullshit lunasun May 2014 #413
+1 i noticed bravenak May 2014 #414
WTF was this about? nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #422
Decent post. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #421
I Cannot Believe You Found a Way` On the Road May 2014 #429
Actually, imo, he violated more than one provision of TOS with this post RainDog May 2014 #443
this thread has been interesting alright, but not for the reason you think. bettyellen May 2014 #444
+1 redqueen May 2014 #446
seriously, either we have a TOS or do not. Right now, I would say we have lost our way. bettyellen May 2014 #450
What we have is a pretty in-your-face example of what community standards really are redqueen May 2014 #451
I think it sort of mirrors what is happening in this country though- people actually embrace liberal bettyellen May 2014 #459
Ignoring the massive amounts of idiocy in the article Taitertots May 2014 #445
I think it really is time to self delete this thing. hrmjustin May 2014 #447
He's too busy over at the Discussionist bashing DU/DUers to come back and self-delete. n/t seaglass May 2014 #452
I wonder if he'll keep harping on this with his ersatz wit, redqueen May 2014 #453
Got any links pintobean May 2014 #454
Not guessing at all, he's very obvious. You don't think you can tell who someone is by his/her seaglass May 2014 #455
No, that's guessing. pintobean May 2014 #456
Nope I'm not guessing, I'm certain. n/t seaglass May 2014 #457
Yep. I knew it was him after a few OPs over there. NuclearDem May 2014 #458
Nazis, sex toy lawsuits, and starving dogs? bettyellen May 2014 #460
A link just for you pintobean - and again, it was never a guess. seaglass May 2014 #529
oh. I have not figured out who is who yet but I thiink I prefer DU. hrmjustin May 2014 #462
Me too. :-) n/t seaglass May 2014 #463
Loo I posted a bit there but I don't care for arguing with them. hrmjustin May 2014 #464
Transparency: a memo (mine) from the host's forum: ucrdem May 2014 #468
Again, you're wrong about this... SidDithers May 2014 #471
He/She leaves out some very important information, doesn't they? boston bean May 2014 #472
hustling for a lock on the Flotus attack thread, whining about Greenwald being as racist as this OP bettyellen May 2014 #480
That is exactly what happened here. Many past and future hosts disagreed with this decision- it bettyellen May 2014 #475
So it's dysfunctional if it doesn't work IAW your preferences. kristopher May 2014 #482
In this case, it didn't work - not b/c of preferences RainDog May 2014 #485
What you don't seem to be able to accept is that people who are LIBERAL and NOT RACIST... kristopher May 2014 #489
I'm not a long term host RainDog May 2014 #491
"a violation of the stated purpose of this site" = TOS = Admin action kristopher May 2014 #492
it violates the SOP of the forum RainDog May 2014 #493
That is nothing but your personal opinion and view of censorship kristopher May 2014 #494
Thanks for the pleasant discussion RainDog May 2014 #495
No, it's not just her personal view. DU has censorship, period. CreekDog May 2014 #530
Censorship is part of the Hosting gig... SidDithers May 2014 #486
If that's what you think censorship is, you are the one that's misplaced. kristopher May 2014 #487
Are you advocating that all sources should be acceptable at DU?... SidDithers May 2014 #488
Why don't you try to get skinner to bring back the banned list and see what he says? kristopher May 2014 #490
You were hustling for locks of a thread insulting FLOTUS, so your excuse is not cutting it. As other bettyellen May 2014 #476
This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers May 2014 #470
Good god almighty. What a clusterf*ck. A few notes if I may The Straight Story May 2014 #496
Right wing hate sites are not appropriate to provide content on DU. RainDog May 2014 #497
"easier to bury things we don't like than to confront them." badtoworse May 2014 #498
let's ignore that dozens here confronted the OP for posting racist twaddle, okay... bettyellen May 2014 #499
Therein lies the source of outrage. Lasher May 2014 #527
you used DU to spread hostility towards Asians CreekDog May 2014 #502
I totally agree that "privilege" threads that single out particular races in a negative manner Nye Bevan May 2014 #504
Do you honestly believe the point of the OP was to spread hostility towards Asians? badtoworse May 2014 #505
I think it's all about pintobean May 2014 #507
Certainly, the mystique and majesty of the Hosts has taken a hit with this thread. Nye Bevan May 2014 #503
It would seem Skinner chose to let the OP wear this thread around his neck. Ikonoklast May 2014 #506
Unbelievable. NuclearDem May 2014 #509
+1 n/t JTFrog May 2014 #510
+1000 Starry Messenger May 2014 #514
There's no harm in a conciliatory gesture. ucrdem May 2014 #512
The anger, the meta host controversy...the confusion...This *may* be the thread that broke DU! Romulox May 2014 #501
I assume the article was written at least somewhat tongue in cheek KamaAina May 2014 #508
Glenn Greenwald and "TakiMag person Gavin McInnes" appear on May 13 Fox Business show ucrdem May 2014 #511
Greenwald again? Why did you bring him up in the hosts thread again? bettyellen May 2014 #523
shame kick. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #515
thanks... ukashkartim May 2014 #517
Welcome to DU, ukashkartim. n/t FSogol May 2014 #522
As an Asian from Hawaii, I happen to think it's satire mainer May 2014 #524
Frank DeLima and his ethnic humor mainer May 2014 #525
This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak May 2014 #526
ROFLMAO McCamy Taylor May 2014 #528
I'm trying to figure out how this thread is still allowed to remain open. It is the most racist shit Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #531
No, Idea... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #534
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