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muriel_volestrangler

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15. #1: implement a carbon tax
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

(because carbon rationing would never be accepted by rich countries like the USA - no US politician would accept a world in which Americans cannot produce more CO2 than Chinese - the USA will demand the right to pay for the pollution).

If the USA cut its per capita CO2 production to the Chinese (or EU - they're about the same) level, that would cut world emissions by about 8%. If China, and everyone else, also had the same carbon tax, then the countries which produce goods with the least CO2 emissions (eg those with large renewable energy resources, or efficient manufacturing processes) would get the growth in industry - not just China with its cheap labour.

And you should probably stop trying to bring India into this - the Indian emissions for the whole country are still under half of the American ones. Per capita, they're about one eighth of the American rate.

Agreed DustyJoe May 2014 #1
A global effort with regional governments The2ndWheel May 2014 #2
China will never sign on to any agreement B2G May 2014 #3
None. At this point massive planet-wide upheaval is baked into the cake.. truebrit71 May 2014 #4
Somewhere out there someone from Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #24
Our corporations took our jobs to China/India BECAUSE they do not have stroung environmental jwirr May 2014 #5
Very little Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #6
The problem is we can't get countries like China to do anything B2G May 2014 #7
I agree completely Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #8
Plenty if we invent viable energy alternatives and spread them to the rest of the world seveneyes May 2014 #9
Easy peasy. Silly me. B2G May 2014 #10
Yep, just invent a solution .... oldhippie May 2014 #19
I don't know about "we having the money" ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #30
There will be no global carbon treaty for many years. mn9driver May 2014 #11
So if that is true B2G May 2014 #12
Eventually, we will mn9driver May 2014 #14
Some people are .... oldhippie May 2014 #20
I don't B2G May 2014 #21
Another issue is that it's not just what energy we use The2ndWheel May 2014 #13
#1: implement a carbon tax muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #15
According to this list, B2G May 2014 #16
Yeah, but by you singling out India and China in the OP, you are obviously only worried about muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #17
Uh, I'm not the only one B2G May 2014 #18
Yes, I'm saying you linked to a less appropriate list - you're not talking per capita muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #22
Well, this sure sank pretty fast oldhippie May 2014 #23
K&R Owl May 2014 #25
Hey kids, can't blame you a bit for dropping out RobertEarl May 2014 #26
We could start with veganism. flvegan May 2014 #27
And quit flying RobertEarl May 2014 #28
interesting Egnever May 2014 #29
I think lot's Egnever May 2014 #31
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