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The2ndWheel

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13. Another issue is that it's not just what energy we use
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:00 PM
May 2014

It's also how much we use, and how much we do with it. That comes into play when talking about any theoretically limitless energy we may stumble upon. Human need, want, desire, and imagination with access to limitless energy? Green because that's how we've defined it? We have no idea what problems we could cause. We might solve a few, but everything has at least two sides to it.

It's a road we've built(roads being one of the worst things we've managed to do, environmentally speaking) and have been traveling down for a long time. Thousands upon thousands of years of history, momentum, and complexity. We can't stop what we've been doing, but we can't continue doing it either. There's no single solution. No single problem.

Agreed DustyJoe May 2014 #1
A global effort with regional governments The2ndWheel May 2014 #2
China will never sign on to any agreement B2G May 2014 #3
None. At this point massive planet-wide upheaval is baked into the cake.. truebrit71 May 2014 #4
Somewhere out there someone from Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #24
Our corporations took our jobs to China/India BECAUSE they do not have stroung environmental jwirr May 2014 #5
Very little Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #6
The problem is we can't get countries like China to do anything B2G May 2014 #7
I agree completely Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #8
Plenty if we invent viable energy alternatives and spread them to the rest of the world seveneyes May 2014 #9
Easy peasy. Silly me. B2G May 2014 #10
Yep, just invent a solution .... oldhippie May 2014 #19
I don't know about "we having the money" ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #30
There will be no global carbon treaty for many years. mn9driver May 2014 #11
So if that is true B2G May 2014 #12
Eventually, we will mn9driver May 2014 #14
Some people are .... oldhippie May 2014 #20
I don't B2G May 2014 #21
Another issue is that it's not just what energy we use The2ndWheel May 2014 #13
#1: implement a carbon tax muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #15
According to this list, B2G May 2014 #16
Yeah, but by you singling out India and China in the OP, you are obviously only worried about muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #17
Uh, I'm not the only one B2G May 2014 #18
Yes, I'm saying you linked to a less appropriate list - you're not talking per capita muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #22
Well, this sure sank pretty fast oldhippie May 2014 #23
K&R Owl May 2014 #25
Hey kids, can't blame you a bit for dropping out RobertEarl May 2014 #26
We could start with veganism. flvegan May 2014 #27
And quit flying RobertEarl May 2014 #28
interesting Egnever May 2014 #29
I think lot's Egnever May 2014 #31
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