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41. Obama has said it 500 times, at least
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:01 PM
Apr 2014

Over the years, at all the economic talks he's given around the country, he always has brought it up. Just for the record.

It always goes something like this:

"Top-down economics doesn't work," President Obama told an adoring crowd this September in Virginia Beach. "We don't need to double down on the same trickle-down policies that got us into this mess in the first place," he continued.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/12/16/obama039s_trickle-down_economics_297984.html



Trickle down economics, the conservative theory embraced by Ronald Reagan and virtually every conservative since, “doesn’t work,” Obama declared. And even as conservatives have clung to the idea in the face of overwhelming evidence against it, “it has never worked,” Obama added:

Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there’s been a certain crowd in Washington for the last few decades who respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us. If only we cut more regulations and cut more taxes – especially for the wealthy – our economy will grow stronger. Sure, there will be winners and losers. But if the winners do really well, jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everyone else. And even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, they argue, that’s the price of liberty.

It’s a simple theory – one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade.


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/06/383348/trickle-down-economics-doesnt-work-obama-asserts-in-economic-speech/



Neither do rich men. They let their money work for them Warpy Apr 2014 #1
+1 - the rich are too busy in their counting rooms to _work_ erronis Apr 2014 #29
+1000! nt adirondacker Apr 2014 #47
The tax cut fairy does not exist Gothmog Apr 2014 #2
Republicans don't believe that at all mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #4
It doesn't really help the 1%, either. A prosperous economy would enrich them a lot more. tclambert Apr 2014 #9
You nailed it with grabbing a bigger share.... Theyletmeeatcake2 Apr 2014 #30
That's a large part of it Nevernose Apr 2014 #33
Maybe it is true that they would prosper more Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #38
None for you Diremoon Apr 2014 #65
Think pirates - take what everyone else has, any means possible csziggy Apr 2014 #68
Greed only grows stronger and more voracious the more you indulge it deutsey Apr 2014 #66
I hate to disagree with her, but for those that introduced it, Trickle Down works rhett o rick Apr 2014 #3
Agreed, it works really well. temporary311 Apr 2014 #5
George H W Bush called quarbis Apr 2014 #10
Right, and David Stockman dis-owned it thesquanderer Apr 2014 #14
+1 gulliver Apr 2014 #6
A Dobie Gillis reference! mac56 Apr 2014 #16
I have some pretty crazy stuff stuck in my brain (and a lot of good stuff forgotten) but rhett o rick Apr 2014 #18
One of the episodes had Maynard testifying in court. mac56 Apr 2014 #19
Ah yes, thank you for that. I do remember. I loved Maynard. I think that rhett o rick Apr 2014 #23
Never forget Zelda, ie Sheila Kuehl, current candidate for LA County Board of Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #31
Very cool. Isnt Amy on Big Bang similar to Zelda's character? nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #34
Where's Milton Armitage The Wizard Apr 2014 #43
Warren Beatty? maddiemom Apr 2014 #48
yes The Wizard Apr 2014 #59
I had forgotten him. I do remember Ms. Weld tho. She was my second true love. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #60
Thalia Menninger The Wizard Apr 2014 #61
I could so associate with Dobie. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #62
"...a buck private with a good conduct medal..." or how was it? u maddiemom Apr 2014 #46
It's the rationale we're fighting, not the facts. DirkGently Apr 2014 #24
Yessir. Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #58
No, it doesn't even work for them. See the sub-thread above this one csziggy Apr 2014 #67
Agree! alfredo Apr 2014 #69
Not when the Republicans do it, bvar22 Apr 2014 #7
+1 mmonk Apr 2014 #28
free trade was an FDR priority Progressive dog Apr 2014 #35
NOT the way it has been implemented over the last 30 years. bvar22 Apr 2014 #39
Data shows that the 1% own Progressive dog Apr 2014 #49
"Data shows that the 1% own approximately the percentage of everything that they did in bvar22 Apr 2014 #50
Huffington post interview with Progressive dog Apr 2014 #51
"The 'trickle-down' theory: the principle that the poor, who must subsist on table scraps ... " baldguy Apr 2014 #8
For most Republicans that's the way it should be.. they totally don't understand the real problem. DCBob Apr 2014 #25
The horse and sparrow theory alfredo Apr 2014 #70
Truth Telling you won't hear from the TheTruth©, Inc. Thanks, Elizabeth Warren! freshwest Apr 2014 #11
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #12
Oh, it works. Just not like how Raygun told you it would ... Scuba Apr 2014 #13
The hopeful note in Pikkety's book lovemydog Apr 2014 #15
Part of the blame goes to my generation, the Baby Boomers. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #21
Then some whackos lovemydog Apr 2014 #26
Now as our people in poverty & middle class slip well below!, other '1st world' Nations' one would Sunlei Apr 2014 #17
The Rethugs just hate the attention this book is getting. DCBob Apr 2014 #20
The problem with "Trickle down does/doesn't work" is defining "works". Thor_MN Apr 2014 #22
What's their dodge? toby jo Apr 2014 #27
Trickle down has always worked for the short term for a few up until the the start of wide spread geretogo Apr 2014 #32
I have both Warren's book and Piketty's BlueEye Apr 2014 #36
Trickle up, no more trickle down NBachers Apr 2014 #37
it's surprising how few politicians are willing to say this. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2014 #40
Obama has said it 500 times, at least frazzled Apr 2014 #41
Thank you Ms Warren as trickle down has always been synonymous with azurnoir Apr 2014 #42
Trickle down The Wizard Apr 2014 #44
You only find dispair if you are invested to the concept of never ending growth.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #45
What a concise summation Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #52
Right, to them, there is no "excess".... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #53
Is that Rush Limpball's bathroom? Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #55
Mine is, "Those who rail the loudest about the work ethic,... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #54
That, and the up-trickled moneyed elite is largely hereditary BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #56
What a godless, un-American commie! Doesn't this Liberal harpie know that giving money Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #63
Changing naritive HenryWallace Apr 2014 #64
Just 4 words intaglio Apr 2014 #71
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