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In reply to the discussion: I'm getting really sick of the whole "Comrade Eddie" BS from some [View all]grasswire
(50,130 posts)253. "But one thing we do know is that Snowden, by giving everything he had to others, put many national
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I'm getting really sick of the whole "Comrade Eddie" BS from some [View all]
unreadierLizard
Apr 2014
OP
Surveillance has it's merits; it was used to quickly apprehend the boston marathon bombers
JJChambers
Apr 2014
#13
Sounds incredibly untruthful. do you have any credible sources for your claims? nt
okaawhatever
Apr 2014
#326
and it's a horrible precedent to set for when another ALEC-republican takes office
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#194
More than once; and the Koch - funded CATO Institute paid him a stipend for over a year to
MADem
Apr 2014
#264
Well, I don't think the NSA is "fine" but I don't think that makes Glenn Greenwald a font of
MADem
Apr 2014
#281
I don't have to "debunk" a thing--actions speak loudly, and when they're accompanied
MADem
Apr 2014
#283
He could be a spy for the US. Why else would the US Government force him into Russia
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#338
Faux agrees with you on Greenwald. They are certain, and always have been, that
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#342
Well, Faux likes the CATO institute, and so does Greenwald--so they have a few things in common, now
MADem
Apr 2014
#344
Oh, it's a talking point. Already established, quite some time ago. Kos talked to the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#358
Kos is an ex-Republican with a corporate POV. He was hoping to parlay his "net cred"
MADem
Apr 2014
#360
The reason I love when people drag this Cato Talking point up is that I KNOW the facts about it. And
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#363
Naaah...you don't "love" it at all. Otherwise you wouldn't keep insisting how much you love
MADem
Apr 2014
#369
Kudos to Greenwald and all the other Democrats who used Cato to slam Bush's policies.
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#370
Okay, I do love it. Massive spying on the American by the NSA is a crime against the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#372
You're faulting someone for using the dictionary definition of a word, instead of
merrily
Apr 2014
#117
The goal of surveillance should be prevention. Obviously, it is not being used that way.
merrily
Apr 2014
#114
Calling it surveillance dignifies it and makes it seem like something that has
merrily
Apr 2014
#129
How many crimes were prevented by surveillance in Stalin's USSR or Hitler's Germany?
nxylas
Apr 2014
#317
But before they got to NYC to do it again...you do realize they were on their way to
MADem
Apr 2014
#225
I am not sure what you you mean. What is it that you don't think they even thought about?
merrily
Apr 2014
#220
That tragedy highlighted the fact that the destruction of our Constitutional rights based on the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#337
We are all against that crap. Every law put in place 11 days after 9/11 should be abolished.
Sunlei
Apr 2014
#54
I understand where you are coming from, but whistle blowers have been forced into breaking laws.
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#271
The delicious irony of it is that it attempts to smear Snowden with a Cold War Era slur,
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#101
To put it bluntly, the one who coined Comrade Eddie isn't the smartest tool in the shed.
Autumn
Apr 2014
#132
Snowden blew the whistle on Booz Allen Hamilton and its treasons on behalf of NSA.
Octafish
Apr 2014
#103
I will bet that you knew we were spying on foreign countries even before Snowden told you.
A Simple Game
Apr 2014
#48
Of course they knew. Not only has it been Spy vs. Spy for like forever, but, on the other
merrily
Apr 2014
#206
Maybe we didn't "know the specifics", but I bet China and Russia already knew them.
A Simple Game
Apr 2014
#323
because up to that point, other countries had no idea that we were spying on them
frylock
Apr 2014
#138
What DU people keep overlooking is that the US would stop him once he's outside Russian airspace.
ancianita
Apr 2014
#12
It's not as though anyone can be certain the whole trip to Hong Kong wasn't a charade
pnwmom
Apr 2014
#15
And the antics with the Bolivian president's plane and the physical and very real attempts
JDPriestly
Apr 2014
#50
True. Snowden, who was a two-time donor to the Ron Paul campaign, and who despises the New Deal,
Tanuki
Apr 2014
#17
So Snowden was a dumb fuck reactionary? So what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? n/t
2banon
Apr 2014
#68
^^you'd think folks would be all over that, if ideological purity meant that much to them.
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#198
Maybe it's because HRC was 17 at the time, and quickly changed her thinking as soon as she
Tanuki
Apr 2014
#221
I would respond with an obvious answer but we have already established you don't like that
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#347
He's also right-handed, yet I see no one referring to him that particular and wholly accurate descri
LanternWaste
Apr 2014
#377
Snowden had the misfortune of doing his duty under a Democratic administration
seveneyes
Apr 2014
#21
"if Snowden had leaked these documents with, say, President John McCain or Mitt Romney..."
Chan790
Apr 2014
#28
I believe that Snowden knew the risk of imprisonment and did what he did anyway.
merrily
Apr 2014
#191
It's an old Right Wing, McCarthyite attempt to change the subject from the crimes committed by
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#31
People like Snowden make this country look good. It tells the world that the Corporate Media doesn't
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#226
"Traitor, Mr. Dickerson? To what? The British Crown? Or the British half-crown?"
Demeter
Apr 2014
#69
Whereas I will hear out rational arguments against Snowdens whistle blowin regarding Constitutional
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#39
if the spying he revealed was against china, yes he would be a traitor under Bush. just as he is now
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#73
I will go thru it slower. Those that spew hatred for Snowden do so because
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#215
Same people that don't realize that we are not living under a democracy anymore.
L0oniX
Apr 2014
#199
IMHO they live in a state of denial and hate it when someone tries to look behind the
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#218
nah - like a certain sub-sect that you find on the fringe of all ideological movements - they are
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2014
#306
I dont care if people dont like Snowden. What bothers me are those that disparage
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#255
"Stop the distractive obsession with vilifying Snowden." I so agree. Thanks. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#387
So what you're saying is he's a cowardly criminal afraid to face the music for his crimes.
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#63
Um Okay, I guess you decided not to take my advice as evidenced by your reply
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#286
This absurd question demonstrates you have never looked into Eddie Galt's past. eom
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#151
That's two questions you've refused to answer when you had no answer.
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2014
#205
That's twice you've ignored facts surrounding Effie Galt and made some sort of accusation
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#231
a few twists of fate and they'd be calling him "Hong Kong Tong Eddie" or "altiplano-skipping,
MisterP
Apr 2014
#67
I think a criminal complaint charging him with violating the Espionage Act counts
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#120
yes it was a chinese paper he gave an interveiw to and revealed what PLA systems the US was hacking
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#175
I disagree. I think my snowden sucks credentials are pretty solid around here but
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#229
so… a documentary film maker and indie blogger apparently made the highest bid?
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#192
We will probably never know what information has been 'leaked' to foreign countries.
randome
Apr 2014
#250
"But one thing we do know is that Snowden, by giving everything he had to others, put many national
grasswire
Apr 2014
#253
You seem to be in full agreement with Snowden when he mirrored bin laden's words,
Wash. state Desk Jet
Apr 2014
#359
Indeed..if one uses binary thinking, it is difficult to place yourself within the narrative.
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#134
No...Comrade Eddie leaked nothing that had not been apparent to anyone who was paying
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#165
When Section 215 is reauthorized because we had a depressed voter turnout, and
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#172
Given the press conferences, the Ted appearances, and the film festival appearances...
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#355
No....I'm pointing out that the narrative is not always what it seems. You are avoiding
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#261
just b/c you don't see it as a big deal, doesn't mean it's not a big deal.
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#186
Poor Edward, for he did not know what he was doing, he's just an activist,
Thinkingabout
Apr 2014
#161
you seem to be suggesting that when a Democratic Administration is doing something that we would be
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2014
#164
Maybe the brobdingnagian hypocrisy of the NSA's quasi-Stasi behavior being covered up
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#272
There were also the successful attempts to prevent him flying to Latin America.
dipsydoodle
Apr 2014
#233
I disagree.. I think he's a lying libertarian asshole who has made this too much about himself..
Cha
Apr 2014
#249
Some of the apologists may be Administration sock puppets paid to influence public opinion, you know
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2014
#254
I always thought it was odd that there were (1) fancy posters for a pro-Snowden demo in Hong Kong
flamingdem
Apr 2014
#263
They so piously take offense to "comrade eddie" but freely dish out "authoritarian"/ "nsa
Cha
Apr 2014
#311
I wish only knew what Danziger thought of this latest stunt, but Charlie Pierce...
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#312
Either way, the USG is massively violating our constitutional rights, and with our money,
merrily
Apr 2014
#368