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Hekate

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56. Brer Rabbit is the direct descendent of the Trickster Hero Anansi, from West Africa
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

Because public education is so niggardly in its choices of cultural curriculum and reading assignments, not to mention spelling and breadth of vocabulary of the English/American language that is our common heritage, it appears more and more of our citizens are so ignorant it's breathtaking.

Suppressing African American folk tales (which are both African and American) out of sheer ignorance, does a disservice to all of us. When you strip away the old attempts to record dialect they become more understandable to the modern eye and ear, but they retain their cunning, humor, wisdom, and teachings of traditional Trickster stories of Anansi, Coyote, Brer Rabbit, and their kin.

The Tar Baby is black because it's made out of tar, a common substance at the time the stories were told. "Don't throw me in that briar patch!" is the Trickster's way of getting his old rival the Fox to toss him back into his very home, where he will be safe from capture.

If there are any words or concepts in what I have written here that you take offense at, I suggest you look them up in the dictionary, with particular emphasis on the etymology of the words. Beware of false etymology.

And get yourself a book of American folklore before it's gone forever.

Meanwhile, Brer Fox, he lay low.

"....... insisting he used the term to indicate it's a sticky situation. " pangaia Mar 2014 #1
Because it is not a racist term joeglow3 Mar 2014 #7
actually it is...would you ever call a black person "tar baby" to his face? alp227 Mar 2014 #11
The "Racist interpretation" is stupid. nt Bonx Mar 2014 #16
Your "proof" that it is racist is a politician placating ignorant people calling it racist joeglow3 Mar 2014 #19
How could a person be a "sticky situation"? Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #28
There's an easy solution to the dilemma. Igel Mar 2014 #48
Brer Rabbit and the Tarbaby is an old folklore tale. HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #64
Everything is a racist term to those ..... oldhippie Mar 2014 #24
I did not grow up in the south, but rather out west. I did not know this term was racist Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #58
I've never understood this one pscot Mar 2014 #2
I use the term "tar baby" for situations that are difficult to get away from once involved. Throd Mar 2014 #4
You must not have seen the Disney movie catbyte Mar 2014 #21
Song of the South; Long ago pscot Mar 2014 #42
That's my childhood recollection as well.I also read some of Joel Chandler Harris's stories as a kid Hekate Mar 2014 #52
Read Joel Chandler Harris, JimboBillyBubbaBob Mar 2014 #27
I guess screaming one more fucking time that the term is not racist would be a waste CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #3
Stupidity abounds B2G Mar 2014 #6
So You are now the authority on what is and is not racist? FreedRadical Mar 2014 #10
Yes. You have been unseated. B2G Mar 2014 #12
My skin begs to differ. FreedRadical Mar 2014 #15
I don't care if you're purple. B2G Mar 2014 #18
Thank you. That settles it then. FreedRadical Mar 2014 #30
Yeah, ya hear that from some anonymous poster on the net?.. Cha Mar 2014 #66
It is like the word "niggardly" FreeJoe Mar 2014 #33
I would say the current dictionary definition. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #34
But the dictionary... FreeJoe Mar 2014 #37
All the more reason to nip the incorrect interpretation in the bud. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #40
nope pscot Mar 2014 #43
We bow to the perceptions ..... oldhippie Mar 2014 #35
It works for the Republican Party Throd Mar 2014 #36
Apparently. oldhippie Mar 2014 #41
It isn't racist but elected officials shouldn't use it cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #5
Thespian? Doesn't that derive from some Greek muse? pscot Mar 2014 #9
And never mention the countries of Niger or Nigeria. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #29
Not a racist term Politicalboi Mar 2014 #8
i'd disagree about "tar baby" being not a racist term, alp227 Mar 2014 #13
I agree. I was stunned when I came across this place in NC. adirondacker Mar 2014 #20
It's in SC B2G Mar 2014 #23
The origin of the "tar baby" concept is apparently African LittleBlue Mar 2014 #14
Anything is racist if you want it to be bad enough. Bonx Mar 2014 #17
are you sure you want to post this kind of claim on a progressive message board? alp227 Mar 2014 #22
+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #25
Perhaps, but nobody knew that at the time. Igel Mar 2014 #46
Should words and phrases such as "tar baby" and "picnic" be avoided Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #26
I just learned something. TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #31
It doesn't pscot Mar 2014 #44
Maybe for you or I, TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #45
It didn't. Igel Mar 2014 #47
Not racist. RC Mar 2014 #32
That's where I learned the story of Tar-Baby, from Uncle Remus stories. I do not consider it an,,, northoftheborder Mar 2014 #54
Just like the PC crowd around here at one time. RC Mar 2014 #57
Isn't that from an Aesop's fable, or something? YarnAddict Mar 2014 #38
Br'er Rabbit. nt jazzimov Mar 2014 #49
"Tar baby" is a legitimate but widely misunderstood term TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #39
I'm much more offended by Corporate Terry McAuliffe Ron Green Mar 2014 #50
+1 HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #65
It's dismaying to see how many people are, apparently, incredibly ignorant. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #51
Damn Disney Warpy Mar 2014 #53
I think you may have the situation reversed - I think it was used by some in the South hedgehog Mar 2014 #61
Have you ever tried to get pine tar off your hands? Warpy Mar 2014 #62
Loved Uncle Remus libodem Mar 2014 #55
Look up The Story of Little Babaji for an update of Helen Bannerman's lost classic Hekate Mar 2014 #59
I've been on a current reading run libodem Mar 2014 #67
Brer Rabbit is the direct descendent of the Trickster Hero Anansi, from West Africa Hekate Mar 2014 #56
No offense taken. TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #63
Some of the responses, though... Hekate Mar 2014 #68
Sad that he felt that he had to apologise, and shame on the people who condemned him. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #60
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