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freshwest

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203. Especially not Obama, a Democratic president. Remember this?

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Sun Mar 2, 2014, 06:46 PM

Mar 2014

It's more of that SSDD as it was back then.

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I really can't believe some of what I've been reading here today. [View all] TheMightyFavog Mar 2014 OP

Recommended. Heidi Mar 2014 #1

Why I'll do the same! Puglover Mar 2014 #66

Hello, handsome! Heidi Mar 2014 #68

Puglover! WhiteTara Mar 2014 #108

Thanks. Puglover Mar 2014 #109

May I? It's so great! WhiteTara Mar 2014 #122

I've always loved it too Aerows Mar 2014 #135

Hey Puglover!! bleedinglib Mar 2014 #274

Just one here. Puglover Mar 2014 #297

TheMightyFavog Speaks- TheMightyFavog Speaks For Me NBachers Mar 2014 #2

It's not very often people have said that about me. TheMightyFavog Mar 2014 #123

And for me! LongTomH Mar 2014 #125

And for me! n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #136

American Imperialism Chris Diesel Mar 2014 #3

And how does persecuting gays/killing journalists/imprisoning Pussy Riot Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #5

You got that right. MADem Mar 2014 #20

I agree completely with that approach. cheapdate Mar 2014 #58

Thank you, MADem: the voice of reason! loudsue Mar 2014 #69

You're becoming one of my favorite DUers. nt Flatulo Mar 2014 #119

I wish I could LIKE this post. Nicely said. NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #127

MADem, yes, not going to invade Russia or nuke them. I'm glad I've missed any calls for it here. freshwest Mar 2014 #145

+1 freshwest and MADem Hekate Mar 2014 #174

Ah, yes, the sarcasm icon may still be needed here! Sorry you saw the crazy, though. freshwest Mar 2014 #185

WSJ and LATimes have some very good articles w/historical perspective Hekate Mar 2014 #231

By war being war being waged by Obama are you referring to the claims of CIA involvement? davidpdx Mar 2014 #319

That or some version of voodoo being practiced. Sometimes just being POTUS = Evil Monster. And... freshwest Mar 2014 #324

Well put davidpdx Mar 2014 #335

Said so well, freshwest! Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #254

+1 ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #298

Thank you. Wish I could recommend a comment! n/t moriah Mar 2014 #177

+10 (nt) PosterChild Mar 2014 #236

+1 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #275

+ 1000 davidpdx Mar 2014 #320

Some people want to see everything as BBR Esq Mar 2014 #73

John Cleese said it makes 'em FEEL GOOD: freshwest Mar 2014 #191

Hit the nail right on the head. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #194

War is not the answer Demsrule86 Mar 2014 #343

You are conflating sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #75

Strengthening and Encouraging... PosterChild Mar 2014 #113

Exactly how in the hell does the overthrow sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #114

As a people becomes enlightened and learns, they progress... PosterChild Mar 2014 #139

How many Vietnamese and Iraqis have we killed during our "strengthening and encouraging" rhett o rick Mar 2014 #117

Man, that's my foremost thought here! Plucketeer Mar 2014 #121

Here are some of the actions... PosterChild Mar 2014 #147

Here is a list of the nefreious, shadowy, underhanded... PosterChild Mar 2014 #143

If your point is that we should help them achieve Democracy, I would answer that we rhett o rick Mar 2014 #153

Take a look at the list of activities... PosterChild Mar 2014 #160

Sorry if I misread your point. Maybe if you would simply state it outright I wouldnt have to guess. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #164

I'll try to be more clear and strightforward in the future. (nt) PosterChild Mar 2014 #170

Why not start now? What was your point? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #261

My point is that... PosterChild Mar 2014 #303

The purpose of NED is to whore for the 1%. They loved Yanukovych as long as-- eridani Mar 2014 #317

Sure. And I suppose you think... PosterChild Mar 2014 #341

They are solidly behind AUSTERITY. They were solidly behind Yankuvich when-- eridani Mar 2014 #342

You seem to think that... PosterChild Mar 2014 #345

Human progress is NOT austerity. eridani Mar 2014 #346

It's not Gazprom freebies either... PosterChild Mar 2014 #348

The only thing they get from EU austerity is economic destruction. eridani Mar 2014 #349

LOL, sure, just ask anyone in Poland.... PosterChild Mar 2014 #350

Ask them in Greece while you are at it n/t eridani Mar 2014 #351

Ha - Greece didn't leave the EU... PosterChild Mar 2014 #352

Greece was indeed fucked over by EU eridani Mar 2014 #353

Ssshhhhh, American Privilege!! We can do that then condemn it if we feel like it. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #148

You are completely ignoring the fact that the democratically elected Parliament threw his ass out. Adrahil Mar 2014 #129

+100 (nt) PosterChild Mar 2014 #144

How do you feel about US support, financially, for the Govt of Uganda, for Uzbekistan's dictator, sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #149

My bet is... PosterChild Mar 2014 #154

Which parts of the world? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #163

The Ukraine (nt) PosterChild Mar 2014 #173

He called it a "meme".... PosterChild Mar 2014 #78

OMG EXACTLEEEEEEE sibelian Mar 2014 #175

They project. Igel Mar 2014 #84

Which country are you talking about? Uganda maybe, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #100

Oh, you! sibelian Mar 2014 #137

I hate spoiling people's fun, but we Liberals can't seem to help jamming the 'works' with facts. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #176

Obama isn't perfect, but he's better than Bush. amandabeech Mar 2014 #156

I mind that hypocrisy in any form, especially when it is representing us. Had this country sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #188

Bush's war was idiotic, but a MILLION Iraqis were not killed. Not even close. 7962 Mar 2014 #247

100,000? Is that better? You realize that we were told from the beginning, that 'we count bodies' sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #269

Imagine one child in the west killed by a foreign military and anyone daring to minimize polly7 Mar 2014 #279

No, I cannot imagine it for a minute. Or women being raped, or children being sodomized by foreign sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #286

Thank 'you' Sabrina. polly7 Mar 2014 #295

I agree, ALL were a waste in a war that shouldve never been started. 7962 Mar 2014 #290

Only if you insist on counting only those killed violently eridani Mar 2014 #318

Maybe we should Invade/attack Uganda first? 2banon Mar 2014 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #278

That's exactly right newfie11 Mar 2014 #10

"35% of Russia's riches in the hands of 110 people" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #16

Oh my God. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #241

Distorting Russia MattSh Mar 2014 #23

I read that piece, hard to take seriously his critique of 'press distortions' about Russia because Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #33

Holy Crap! Adrahil Mar 2014 #126

Paean to Putin? Maedhros Mar 2014 #182

I'm sensing trolls myself nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #4

Same here. Most names I'm familiar with aren't advocating U.S. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #6

they are either a kook or they are a troll - either way they need to be banned Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #29

I agree steve2470 Mar 2014 #30

That, would be pure insanity! Anyone can join DU, I always look at post count first. I see RKP5637 Mar 2014 #52

I agree. I have been here since 2004-ish(lurked for awhile) and these pro-war with Russia posts anneboleyn Mar 2014 #70

They came for the Olympics, they stayed for the invasion of the Ukraine!!! MADem Mar 2014 #64

Or people who haven't realized the Cold War is over. Sorry, Charlie, no war for you! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #187

If this was the sixties I wonder if they would be calling for our involvement in Vietnam lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #7

i dont wonder at all reddread Mar 2014 #189

Fortunately, I don't think Obama would even dream of LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #8

Only a loony toon would tangle with Russia. longship Mar 2014 #12

People used to say the same thing about Afghanistan. merrily Mar 2014 #19

"used to"? DireStrike Mar 2014 #41

They still do. longship Mar 2014 #74

Afghanistan isn't called the Graveyard of Empires Aerows Mar 2014 #138

Election year / War year Cartoonist Mar 2014 #27

You've a very simplistic view Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #44

Well put. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #56

Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #57

America doesn't like war? MNBrewer Mar 2014 #63

Did you not catch this part of my post? Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #65

Iraq didn't attack us! MNBrewer Mar 2014 #76

Um, yes, I'm aware of that. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #79

Let's argue about my innacuracies. Cartoonist Mar 2014 #150

Johnson was "elected" president once. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #243

LBJ was elected in 1960 Cartoonist Mar 2014 #302

Um, no, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #304

Johnson was on the ballot as Veep Cartoonist Mar 2014 #305

OK, I"m sorry. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #306

That's OK Cartoonist Mar 2014 #332

Doesn't war usually have a "rally around the president" effect, at least early on? Skip Intro Mar 2014 #245

Some DU'ers only oppose war when Republicans are in office Scootaloo Mar 2014 #9

Or they could be mccain clones/trolls.. nobody I know of is advocating war with Cha Mar 2014 #11

Especially not Obama, a Democratic president. Remember this? freshwest Mar 2014 #203

Thanks for that, freshwest.. I was just thinking about it yesterday. EarlG Got It.. even if Cha Mar 2014 #208

Scootaloo, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #45

Well said, Scootaloo! City Lights Mar 2014 #46

+1,000,000 L0oniX Mar 2014 #81

Wasn't aware that pacificism was an integral part of progressivism. Igel Mar 2014 #89

Pacifism and opposition to war are different things. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #124

+1 Marr Mar 2014 #111

Boom Aerows Mar 2014 #130

+1, sad but true. harun Mar 2014 #186

"A fashion accessory"? Got any examples? Specifics? That's an ugly accusation for "a lot of people" Cha Mar 2014 #214

That's one way of looking at things. mythology Mar 2014 #234

But W. looked into the eyes of Pootie-Poot and saw his soul. King_Klonopin Mar 2014 #13

.......... trusty elf Mar 2014 #34

Gotta be photoshopped! No way Putin would let Shrub drive, LOL. Great pic, thanks. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #217

Ha! trusty elf Mar 2014 #226

Love the pretzel. Nice touch. King_Klonopin Mar 2014 #288

More war! peace13 Mar 2014 #14

When was the last time we actually had peace talks? merrily Mar 2014 #17

When Bill Clinton was leaving office. RC Mar 2014 #85

What do you call the Peace Negotiations with Iran that President Obama initiated? Cha Mar 2014 #206

Forgive me Cha. peace13 Mar 2014 #293

No, take heart, as they are back again: freshwest Mar 2014 #218

You are not the first to say that DU has moved right. merrily Mar 2014 #15

Putin is right wing, though muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #21

A zeal for military intervention and unitary executive are also rightist, so it's not that simple. merrily Mar 2014 #22

"unitary executive" isn't rightist. Igel Mar 2014 #93

Excellent post malaise Mar 2014 #18

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #24

There is a lot I don't understand around here BainsBane Mar 2014 #25

wow G_j Mar 2014 #31

There have been many "white privilege" posts lately, along with several about the Sports Illustrated brush Mar 2014 #37

"Listing right" is a charitable description. Heidi Mar 2014 #38

Hi, Heidi. brush Mar 2014 #54

Neither has anyone else Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #49

Who's 'fawned' over Putin? Links? nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #35

There will be no links forth coming. RC Mar 2014 #80

I agree. It seems to be all about dividing DU'ers into whatever little polly7 Mar 2014 #83

There is always this one BainsBane Mar 2014 #157

Do you have a point? polly7 Mar 2014 #161

You asked for links of people supporting Russia BainsBane Mar 2014 #162

Take your 'Russia' hate and shove it. polly7 Mar 2014 #165

People are supporting those in 'Crimea' who've asked for help. polly7 Mar 2014 #180

Well, thank goodness we have Putin to liberate Crimea by the use of military force BainsBane Mar 2014 #196

'You were told the Iraqis greeted the Americans as liberators.' polly7 Mar 2014 #199

I opposed the war from before it started and throughout BainsBane Mar 2014 #204

Nah ......... sorry. I hate war anywhere, by any one. polly7 Mar 2014 #213

Asked for help? BainsBane Mar 2014 #230

The Crimeans identify as Russian. polly7 Mar 2014 #233

Trying to find a grain of ideological consistency BainsBane Mar 2014 #246

Desperate and pathetic. polly7 Mar 2014 #248

That makes clear you can't defend your argument BainsBane Mar 2014 #262

Don't 'tangle with you'? polly7 Mar 2014 #277

*snork* pacalo Mar 2014 #289

Thank you pacalo. polly7 Mar 2014 #291

That was in directly response to people demanding links BainsBane Mar 2014 #307

And you were too happy to step up to the plate -- on several threads. pacalo Mar 2014 #314

Breaking News BainsBane Mar 2014 #310

So what's with the McCarthyesque lists you're eagerly supplying? pacalo Mar 2014 #315

Reality clearly makes no difference to you BainsBane Mar 2014 #323

Talking about the untruthful OP you wrote about SI not ever 'honoring women' on their covers? pacalo Mar 2014 #333

Yes, I have no doubt you think an average of one cover a year BainsBane Mar 2014 #336

Since you're providing links about DUers, show me where I've supported Putin's invasion of Crimea. pacalo Mar 2014 #337

Am I in error? BainsBane Mar 2014 #338

Yes -- as usual. pacalo Mar 2014 #339

Are you denouncing the others who provided links when asked? BainsBane Mar 2014 #340

Oh great. I just Puglover Mar 2014 #296

Clearly you don't know me BainsBane Mar 2014 #308

Clearly I know you Puglover Mar 2014 #321

Perhaps it's you I don't know BainsBane Mar 2014 #326

I'm sorry. polly7 Mar 2014 #309

I can't even begin Aerows Mar 2014 #134

LOL. polly7 Mar 2014 #215

NOBODY on this board has EVER said Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #47

LOL BainsBane Mar 2014 #120

She has no personal agenda with Snowden. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #152

Links or withdraw that claim, please. /nt Marr Mar 2014 #112

Here is one BainsBane Mar 2014 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Mar 2014 #200

Wait a minute. An OP shocked at people supporting a military strike is pro Putin???? Autumn Mar 2014 #207

The link is not to the OP. It is to post 3. BainsBane Mar 2014 #228

A newbie Autumn Mar 2014 #229

Another BainsBane Mar 2014 #146

Then the absurd contention that Russian intervention is an act of Ukranian self-determination BainsBane Mar 2014 #151

"The Russia bashing has backfired" BainsBane Mar 2014 #158

This is about what I expected, after your bizarre linkage to Snowden above. Marr Mar 2014 #205

There's a serious reading comprehension problem there. Autumn Mar 2014 #210