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In reply to the discussion: It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)119. That is *extremely* fucking unfortunate, TBH.
Especially since actual racism certainly isn't tolerated on DU, and that Skinner and EarlG do take it completely seriously when it does occur. In fact, false accusations of racism should at the very least, be a codified CS violation, and maybe even TOSable as well, in more serious cases.
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It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege [View all]
BainsBane
Feb 2014
OP
"It is ignorant to deny it. Racist to fight against discussing it." Are you serious?
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#7
So if white people aren't unfairly advantaged in society, then what does that imply?
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#76
It's not that complicated. I think you're *making* it more complicated than it needs to be, frankly.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#121
"Again, why the need to complicate things?" I could ask you guys the same effing thing!
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#123
Your use of the word "fuck" was crass. The OP was not, and it was a correct statement. nt
TeamPooka
Feb 2014
#102
Maybe white people in general shouldn't position themselves as such experts on other races.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#122
If the problem is really only one of semantics, then why are you so adamant about this?
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#130
Okay, so I guess we're at an impasse. "Agree to disagree" comes to mind
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#135
I tend to agree with her on most things, but I admit she probably overstepped there.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#138
I actually forgot about that last part - which now seems like a major oversight.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#144
The problem is, not only is what you've said not true re: discussion......
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#11
Ask your "working class white man in a beat-up old car" if he'd rather be a black man.
scarletwoman
Feb 2014
#14
Great that you have the luxury of dismissing all this stuff... I'm happy for you, honestly! n/t
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#77
I understand what you're saying. But when some seem hostile to fairly basic progressive ideas
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#85
My idea of "fairly basic progressive ideas", are not threads calling out and lecturing DUers.
RC
Mar 2014
#158
I know my family history and it overflowed with white privilege. Was some of it earned?
freshwest
Feb 2014
#15
They were workers. Without opportunity, they couldn't have kept their place, which was a good one.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#36
I didn't mean it in terms of your family. I was asking about the general concept of earned
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#37
I didn't just speak about my family. Opportunities we had were a form of privilege.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#39
I asked what an earned privilege was. You gave me an example of an unearned privilege.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#40
I agree for the most part, but I would have included white women in that framing.
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#54
Actually, the "privilege" framing suggests that the problem is solved by arresting more whites.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#100
For the record I dont deny "white privilege". But I have a hard time dealing with all the
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#23
Why do you keep posting things like above that have no bearing on whats being said???
1awake
Feb 2014
#57
I appreciate your intentions. I just thought it was a little too much to tell people
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#95
Nothing there about a handfull of white members controlling discussion here.
Skip Intro
Feb 2014
#41
Take time to actually understand what you're reading, and try to THINK before you write.
Judi Lynn
Feb 2014
#79
Sorry, but seems he/she has a pretty firm grasp of current circumstances here. nt
1awake
Feb 2014
#93
"White privilege" isn't progressive, sadly. At least that's not how it is used now!
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#116
Anyone who uses the term "far left" in reference to anything on DU or Firedoglake
Maedhros
Feb 2014
#139
Probably less than 5%. Though I've yet to find a progressive website or blog that spends much time
Chathamization
Mar 2014
#155
Not entirely. I know, as a white woman, my chances of being prosecuted for possessing pot
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#59
Or maybe advocate the legalization of drugs, making the whole rights thing moot.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#62
It does so far as the issue of disparate sentencing for drugs goes. Which is what I thought you were
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#64
I find your comment bizarre, in that you did not address the issue of white privilege.
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#66
My point was that the two choices you outlined were in fact not the only choices.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#68
And that I do. But doing so will not address other color based inequities in our justice system or..
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#65
And where did I claim you said it didn't? You seem hell bent on not addressing the here and now
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#70
Upgraded to 'privileges' wouldn't you say? As though they were something special rather than a
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#60
Your first couple of paragraphs are a bit of a strawman. The rest, though, is perfectly valid.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#82
It's also dishonest to say that people who analyze the problem differently deny racism.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#99
"Economically liberal social conservatives?" Would these be the same folks who tout their anti-war,
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#75
It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege
JustAnotherGen
Feb 2014
#80
This! Frankly, when I see them belittling, laughing, making snide jokes,
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2014
#125
"I find it hard to believe that a few here wouldn't/couldn't have a racist bone in their body."
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#127
"Disappointing", but not at all surprising. There's a "libertarianism" that has infected the left.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2014
#140