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In reply to the discussion: It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)12. I don't deny it but
honestly, before I joined here and started talking about, and starting to understand these issues, I didn't see it.
It's not always easy to see, if you were raised in it, despite political affiliation.
Now I understand, now I try to take it into account.
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It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege [View all]
BainsBane
Feb 2014
OP
"It is ignorant to deny it. Racist to fight against discussing it." Are you serious?
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#7
So if white people aren't unfairly advantaged in society, then what does that imply?
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#76
It's not that complicated. I think you're *making* it more complicated than it needs to be, frankly.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#121
"Again, why the need to complicate things?" I could ask you guys the same effing thing!
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#123
Your use of the word "fuck" was crass. The OP was not, and it was a correct statement. nt
TeamPooka
Feb 2014
#102
Maybe white people in general shouldn't position themselves as such experts on other races.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#122
If the problem is really only one of semantics, then why are you so adamant about this?
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#130
Okay, so I guess we're at an impasse. "Agree to disagree" comes to mind
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#135
I tend to agree with her on most things, but I admit she probably overstepped there.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#138
I actually forgot about that last part - which now seems like a major oversight.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#144
The problem is, not only is what you've said not true re: discussion......
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#11
Ask your "working class white man in a beat-up old car" if he'd rather be a black man.
scarletwoman
Feb 2014
#14
Great that you have the luxury of dismissing all this stuff... I'm happy for you, honestly! n/t
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#77
I understand what you're saying. But when some seem hostile to fairly basic progressive ideas
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#85
My idea of "fairly basic progressive ideas", are not threads calling out and lecturing DUers.
RC
Mar 2014
#158
I know my family history and it overflowed with white privilege. Was some of it earned?
freshwest
Feb 2014
#15
They were workers. Without opportunity, they couldn't have kept their place, which was a good one.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#36
I didn't mean it in terms of your family. I was asking about the general concept of earned
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#37
I didn't just speak about my family. Opportunities we had were a form of privilege.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#39
I asked what an earned privilege was. You gave me an example of an unearned privilege.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#40
I agree for the most part, but I would have included white women in that framing.
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#54
Actually, the "privilege" framing suggests that the problem is solved by arresting more whites.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#100
For the record I dont deny "white privilege". But I have a hard time dealing with all the
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#23
Why do you keep posting things like above that have no bearing on whats being said???
1awake
Feb 2014
#57
I appreciate your intentions. I just thought it was a little too much to tell people
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#95
Nothing there about a handfull of white members controlling discussion here.
Skip Intro
Feb 2014
#41
Take time to actually understand what you're reading, and try to THINK before you write.
Judi Lynn
Feb 2014
#79
Sorry, but seems he/she has a pretty firm grasp of current circumstances here. nt
1awake
Feb 2014
#93
"White privilege" isn't progressive, sadly. At least that's not how it is used now!
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#116
Anyone who uses the term "far left" in reference to anything on DU or Firedoglake
Maedhros
Feb 2014
#139
Probably less than 5%. Though I've yet to find a progressive website or blog that spends much time
Chathamization
Mar 2014
#155
Not entirely. I know, as a white woman, my chances of being prosecuted for possessing pot
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#59
Or maybe advocate the legalization of drugs, making the whole rights thing moot.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#62
It does so far as the issue of disparate sentencing for drugs goes. Which is what I thought you were
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#64
I find your comment bizarre, in that you did not address the issue of white privilege.
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#66
My point was that the two choices you outlined were in fact not the only choices.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#68
And that I do. But doing so will not address other color based inequities in our justice system or..
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#65
And where did I claim you said it didn't? You seem hell bent on not addressing the here and now
Luminous Animal
Feb 2014
#70
Upgraded to 'privileges' wouldn't you say? As though they were something special rather than a
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#60
Your first couple of paragraphs are a bit of a strawman. The rest, though, is perfectly valid.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#82
It's also dishonest to say that people who analyze the problem differently deny racism.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#99
"Economically liberal social conservatives?" Would these be the same folks who tout their anti-war,
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#75
It's disappointing to see "liberals" deny the existence of white privilege
JustAnotherGen
Feb 2014
#80
This! Frankly, when I see them belittling, laughing, making snide jokes,
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2014
#125
"I find it hard to believe that a few here wouldn't/couldn't have a racist bone in their body."
AverageJoe90
Feb 2014
#127
"Disappointing", but not at all surprising. There's a "libertarianism" that has infected the left.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2014
#140