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In reply to the discussion: DU should be collectively ashamed that people here deny that objectification of women is a problem. [View all]ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)Because that's another made up word too, and I just LOVE it. I feel like a supervillian when I say it, and I've always thought that the best works of fiction have larger than life villains while the heroes seem rather boring by comparison.
What I get is that the experience of others may be real, but the theory is a made up thing. It is there to stand in for something that is meant to be made to feel nasty, evil, and just plain wrong... when it is none of those things.
Coyness? Since you're going to get it wrong again, allow me to just say it. The other thing isn't "sex", it is "basic, natural, human, sexual attraction." And it's clear to me that this is a real problem for some, not suitable in most contexts, and barely acceptable in those that remain.
Some people don't want to see them? I don't want to see food porn on DU. If someone posts another 'kitteh' or embeds another video of some wretched band somewhere I don't like, I'll lose it. I know that people may share my view on these or other visual irritations on DU. But have I asked for a Lounge-wide ban on Caturday? I should, apparently. So why don't I? Simple. I don't OWN DU. I am a member of a COMMUNITY. We, as a community, decide what the rules of engagement are, within a framework provided by the owners of the site. And when the community thinks something is OK even if you don't, you either accept it or leave. And DU, at least for the purposes of discussion in general, has certainly greenlit the posting of some of what we're talking about here. I suspect if it grows beyond that in GD, we may see it go the way of gun threads, and the way that gender-flamebait threads like this one should go IMHO.
I'll explain the difference between DU and the other places you mentioned.
DU is not an office.
DU is not a political organization, at least not one with a brick and mortar presence anyway, and even then only loosely.
DU is not a library.
DU is not a community center.
DU is not a hospital.
Here's a news flash for you: DU is a social place. And in social areas, we all make the decision as to what is and isn't proper. One doesn't, and neither does a few or some. Your displeasure is duly noted, and I appreciate that fact. However, what has happened here is that people just aren't as bothered by these things as you are, or you'd want them to be.
I don't see any conspiracy, and I don't know where you get that. All I see is one person, the OP, taking it upon him/herself to shame the rest of DU (and society at large) that doesn't share his/her particular ideas of what is and isn't proper for 'progressives', although I do see a lot of people in this thread claiming that this isn't what is happening, how people just don't get it, when the OP couldn't be clearer either about message or intent.
And if I identify with those he/she is referring to, it may not be about me specifically, but it is about ME in the sense of the fact that here's this little box I put people into and you're one of them. I don't know exactly how that's supposed to be in some way different, but I assure you it isn't. Of course, I don't really care about the imaginary box someone fabricated out of whole sheet cardboard nor my presence in it, but please, assume I am really hurt by this. It'll make you feel better, trust me.