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In reply to the discussion: DU should be collectively ashamed that people here deny that objectification of women is a problem. [View all]ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)...could be a legitimate start to a reasonable conversation about the very thing OP insists is fact.
For example, my response would most certainly question your second sentence, because my experience is that it is a vanishingly amount of men who see women as a collection of desirable physical attributes without seeing the whole as human. The first sentence has merit, at least insofar as it is possible that women may feel that they are held to an unrealistic standard of attractiveness, and that may impact their self-esteem, however, I'd probably have a different take on the causative agents than "objectification".
However, the point I'm making is that when you take it as fact, you run into two serious problems. One, objectification is not a fact EXCEPT in certain circles. Two, because of one, no reasonable discussion or debate of the idea is possible with people who do take it as fact.
The real issue here is the preponderance of gender-baiting nonsense posting like what the OP has plopped down here.