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phleshdef

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31. Christ, I think the TPP is turning into the left version of Benghazi around here.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:32 AM
Jan 2014

You know, I don't quite understand all the intricacies of trade deals. I know a little bit about the reasons that NAFTA is bad. But I'm by no means an expert in that area. Its just not one of my top issues. So admittedly I should probably learn more about it.

But what I do know, is that trade deals are not the cause of our economic woes and inability to ensure a standard quality of life for everyone. From the most liberal to the most conservative estimates of job loss do to NAFTA, its nothing compared to the jobs we would gain if we just functioned like a rational society and maintained a tax code that made sense and invested in large scale national projects that make sense.

All I know about the TPP is that most of the countries included in it, we already have trade deals with and that only a few of the countries included that we don't have trade deals with are the type of country that offshoring corporations would prey upon and those few countries aren't all that large in terms of population. I also know that it includes Japan, which already pays decent wages. So you know, maybe the notion that it increases US exports has some merit. I've read that it already has clauses in it that says it is beholden to international standards on environmental protections and labor standards, but until we actually see the whole thing, we won't know that. And that's the most valid criticism of the whole thing, the secrecy behind it.

Regardless, I just feel like the controversy around it is overblown, especially in comparison to the bigger issues with a dysfunctional legislative branch that can't even get the traditionally ordinary business of Congress taken care of without intentionally breaking something.

Yes it is sick! yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #1
Huh? 1000words Jan 2014 #2
Why does that surprise you? If the criticism were merited that would be different. But this kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #4
And you believe it's because they are racists? 1000words Jan 2014 #7
So what was it when the Left tore Bush/Cheney apart? Would you like to see some of the sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #29
It will be fine, Kellie. Stewart said this Obama term is the Fuck You term. Whisp Jan 2014 #3
Given the support for fracking and the TPP I heard dflprincess Jan 2014 #9
big frapping sigh.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #26
Christ, I think the TPP is turning into the left version of Benghazi around here. phleshdef Jan 2014 #31
Your mistake is thinking NPR is "the left" Fumesucker Jan 2014 #5
Word... It's also referred to as National Petroleum Radio KeepItReal Jan 2014 #10
They can't win. I've heard National Proletariat Radio. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #12
Plenty of Republicans think Fox News is too far left Fumesucker Jan 2014 #14
Nah, its Namby Pamby Radio MadLinguist Jan 2014 #25
Hmm...maybe Obama Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #6
yeah! OTOH.. Let's Get Real< shall we? Cha Jan 2014 #8
That gets it across! flamingdem Jan 2014 #11
Sign Away President Obama! Cha Jan 2014 #13
sorry assed mudderfuckers gonna rue the day Whisp Jan 2014 #28
OMGosh, this is A W E S O M E .... a kennedy Jan 2014 #16
You're quite welcome, Cha Jan 2014 #17
+1 iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #18
A self-professed Libertarian at work today told me... Orrex Jan 2014 #22
damn right it's the quality and President Obama's Cha Jan 2014 #23
He has been sandbaggin on the EO's...saving them up for the "fuck it" phase VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #27
It would seem so.. The O Admin knows what it's up against, VR.. Cha Jan 2014 #30
Gotta do twice as well to get half the credit...we know how that shit works!!!!! nt MADem Jan 2014 #32
Uh-huh. WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #15
He could repeal Race to the Top and fire Arne Duncan. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #19
So, 11-Dimensional Chess has been a failure, or roarong success? Depends on who you ask, I guess. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #20
We need to take control of Congress and pass some laws. Any executive order that totodeinhere Jan 2014 #21
On the one hand, they criticize him for not "leading,' and on the other they criticize him for JDPriestly Jan 2014 #24
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