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davidthegnome

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27. I come from a family of Educators.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:13 PM
Jan 2014

Primarily English teachers - two grandparents, a sister, a father who went to school for English, but was never allowed to teach in the more relaxed manner he had hoped to.

So I think I can safely say that I know the value of education, and I will say that it is a great and wonderful thing. I had never been so optimistic, so hopeful, so full of energy and enthusiasm as the year I was able to finally enroll in college. The idea that, finally, after years of struggling through depression, overwhelming financial struggle and so on... that I would finally be able to move forward and live better, was beyond uplifting. It was the difference between night and day - between hope and despair.

Strange that it was only last year, it feels like it was so very much longer ago, as if I were a younger, happier, more inspired person. I suppose I was, when it comes down to it. After nearly a decade of spending all of my time either working, or locked up in my room reading, I was finally out among the world again, I re-entered society in a way that moved me more than I can say, that inspired my writing to greater heights, that led to members of my family who had given up on me starting to believe in me again. I can't tell you what it's like to be told by someone who long ago gave up on you as a lost cause, that they are now... "Very proud".

I read the works of Horace Mann - and was inspired by them. I read the works of more modern academics like John Taylor Gatto - and argued passionately against them. I wrote essays that never earned less than an A - and I had not been in a classroom, had not known formal education, for more than a decade.

It was student loans and pell grants that enabled me to do this - along with significant help from my parents in getting started. I lived in a tiny apartment (more of a slum, really, it was all I could afford) that I loved, I bought the cheapest furniture I could find from local thrift stores and Catholic charities - and I think I made it look good. I, who had long been a miserable, hopeless person, had changed so completely that old friends did not recognize me anymore. I had some measure of independence, pride, self respect.. I believed I had a future.

That dream slowly came to an end. The economic devastation of this modern time, was the key factor in what brought me back down. There were no jobs available that I could work with my school schedule. The work study positions were all taken up more quickly than I would have thought possible - and I was on foot. Every day I would walk a few miles, filling out applications and hoping for a phone call. I did this for months... with the belief that, sooner or later, it would pay off. It didn't. There were too many applicants, too many struggling people - and some of them pushed even harder than I did.

Ultimately, what happened was that I ended up owing money, in addition to student loans, that I could never hope to repay - and a significant amount would have to be paid before I could apply for another semester. There were so many days and nights when I could barely afford to eat - on some I just didn't, if I got lucky, my Father or sister would occasionally take me to lunch. When I did shop, it was at dollar stores, and I survived largely on some of the most terrible junk, processed food imaginable. You wouldn't believe how far you can go with tap water and a twelve pack of ramen... not something I suggest... ever.

I remember standing in the financial aid office, begging for more help... I remember it taking every bit of determination and will power I had, not to break down sobbing like a child when they told me there was nothing they could do.

So let me say that, for the vast majority of us... hell, for anyone who is willing and able, college is a wonderful thing. Higher education is fantastic. It is just not affordable, for the vast majority of us. You can give it everything you have (and then some) and still end up just like me. Back home with mom and dad, working for 8 bucks an hour, no health insurance, no friends, no social life. My life is divided, primarily, between working, reading - and frequenting sites like DU, searching for hope, an escape, something to lift me out of my state of depression.

If this noble pursuit of higher education, of knowledge... if this is the sort of dream that should be available to all (as I sincerely, profoundly believe it should be) then something must be done. I do not know what the solution is - but I believe it lies somewhere within our priorities and principles, that we might realize that educating our people is more important than draining them of every dollar, or every working hour we can get out of them. Perhaps we might realize that a more educated populace would benefit our society as a whole - through, in turn, educating our children, inventing things, coming up with cures for diseases, or music that blows the mind and inspires the heart.

It's all about the money, Warrior. Even our system of education (particularly higher education, which doesn't really have a "free" option that I know of) is largely a cog in the machine of capitalism. The problem is... perhaps, ultimately, capitalism itself. When profit comes first, everyone loses. I know. I've lost almost everything - if not for my generous family, I'd have nothing at all. Not even a place to live.

A college degree tazkcmo Jan 2014 #1
yep. that is an unspoken truth about one value of degrees in work place Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #2
You are correct! tazkcmo Jan 2014 #4
4 years in a machine shop as an apprentice with a Good Reference from the boss.... bvar22 Jan 2014 #21
You might enjoy this then. zeemike Jan 2014 #24
Fascinating - Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jan 2014 #29
Excellent point. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #33
Everyone should have a Master's degree to haul away their own garbage. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #3
car repair may have been less of an apt example for protection of skilled labor Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #7
"The fact that SOME people ... does not mean we should all give up on our dreams" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #10
no. people today are calling it some aphorism for the rich and luxurious Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #17
I'm not sure who "the rest of us" is supposed to mean. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #20
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #50
Straight from the right wing capitalist playbook - TBF Jan 2014 #9
You conjure some fiction of a world that doesn't exist just to insult me? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #11
lol - hit a nerve, huh. Not surprised. nt TBF Jan 2014 #12
Um, no; I'm stating the plainly obvious. The entire basis of your criticism is fictitious. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #14
Profit, profit, profit - TBF Jan 2014 #42
You wrote -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #47
What we don't need is all the $$$ in the hands of a few - TBF Jan 2014 #48
When did I ever say wealth should be concentrated in the hands of a few? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #49
When you propped up economic inequality by stating TBF Jan 2014 #51
"You are stating that some humans must be subjugated and degraded in order for others to benefit." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #54
Dumb to demand equality for others? TBF Jan 2014 #55
Again, you are fabricating your outrage. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #60
"Yet these are all necessary occupations. Some people take jobs because they need the money ..." TBF Jan 2014 #61
Which part of it is untrue? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #62
The fact that you are NOT outraged by the economic inequality TBF Jan 2014 #63
Before you even joined this thread I had written to the OP -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #66
"pointless state of perpetual pissed-offedness" TBF Jan 2014 #75
wow Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #80
Yes, wow TBF Jan 2014 #81
I stand by each of those statements without apology. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #83
I disagree with your entire premise TBF Jan 2014 #88
Not long ago I was reading Livy, the ancient Roman historian. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #94
Wow! As an uninvolved bystander, I'd say .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #65
Thank-you but Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #67
Agree .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #68
I appreciate your kind words and salient observation. Thank-you again. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #72
How sad that we must look at discussions as winning or losing. Do you count the number of rhett o rick Jan 2014 #74
Yeah, because ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #76
So you are saying that since other DU posters do it, you can do it? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #78
No, I didn't say that ... oldhippie Jan 2014 #79
Weren't we just discussing Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #85
If that "40% of the wealth" comment refers to the Walton family (and I'm betting it does) A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #73
I stand by my comments on economic inequality - TBF Jan 2014 #90
I don't argue your comments on economic inequality. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #92
Of course - hyperbole was not intended TBF Jan 2014 #93
Fair enough. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #95
ATMs? We used to have Bank Clerks to do all those transactions. Credit cards? We used to need sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #82
Don't tell TBF because you might be accused of wanting to subjugate humans or something. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #84
Is this really necessary? Seems low even for you. nt TBF Jan 2014 #87
What? You want machines to relive people of drudgery. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #89
Some degreed people start at the bottom of these jobs so they can move up knowledgeably and advance ancianita Jan 2014 #23
And the other message - Chris Christie is the worst person in the world EVER! truedelphi Jan 2014 #5
I sort of agree ... but Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #6
True, but then what we should be discussing TBF Jan 2014 #8
Yes, I agree, but Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #13
Because it benefits the powerful YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #15
Yes - their lackeys do. But there aren't so many TBF Jan 2014 #40
I think a lot of people still trust authority.. YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #69
Excellent point - TBF Jan 2014 #77
College should not be as expensive as it is. grntuscarora Jan 2014 #16
The "DWYL" OP was about how "DWYL" is used to blame the 99% for their problems. phantom power Jan 2014 #18
no. most people don't do what they want out of fear. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #19
There is a lot of fear when you are a paycheck or two from homelessness PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #36
The point of employment is *selling* the hours of your life as profitably as possible. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #22
I've known young friends who did skilled labor work first, THEN afforded their college work after. ancianita Jan 2014 #25
no reason such things should be mutually exclusive fishwax Jan 2014 #96
"college is both" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #97
disparaging trade schools is a rather different issue fishwax Jan 2014 #98
I'm a big fan of my local community college. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #99
I've recently discovered professional lawn care. obxhead Jan 2014 #26
I come from a family of Educators. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #27
Very profound and well-thought post. YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #28
"When profit comes first, everyone loses." Unfortunatley, not everybody. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #30
I respectfully disagree. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #32
I totally agree that the're not running the world in a way that benefits the human race. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #34
Their lives would be better, too. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #35
I think the problem is that unless the entire earth is blown to smithereens, the 1% will remain Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #38
Your gem is near the end - TBF Jan 2014 #41
You should make this an OP. Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Jan 2014 #31
Interesting lib87 Jan 2014 #37
Is this the third time I have agreed with you? I'm getting really worried sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #39
Why yes..that was me. :) Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #43
This is the first time I have agreed with PW. I am disappointed in you Vattel Jan 2014 #46
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #44
Anecdotally, I might advise someone not to go to college or to put it off at least... Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #45
thank you! I can get behind that message. Public officials should be holding out higher education Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #56
+1000 YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #71
I used to believe "college" educated a person which led to a better life. I no longer do. BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #52
when I have more time I will share my story. But suffice to say I disagree with some of your broad Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #57
I never advocated online universities. They are nothing but degree mills BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #58
I know. I'm just sharing my personal limits on what is "relevant" higher education Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #59
Agreed. Those are scams. BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #64
Education isn't a key to prosperity anymore. Or not nearly so much. Orsino Jan 2014 #53
OK, adding my two cents here... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2014 #70
"Do what you love and love what you do" is elitist crap alarimer Jan 2014 #91
I have to agree with you on that one. redruddyred Jun 2014 #100
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