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In reply to the discussion: Kick if you agree with this assessment about the influence of religion on people. [View all]Duppers
(28,144 posts)302. an amendment to the statement about Einstein
Check this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/17/science/17einsteinw.html?_r=2&
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Nanjing to Seoul
Jan 2014
OP
In other words a person can have some pretty twisted beliefs about imaginary friends
BlueStreak
Jan 2014
#134
If that's his point (notice he didnt stick around to discuss) then there are a lot better
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#258
Your argument is a strawman argument. The OP does not "basically" call anyone a "brainwashed idiot"
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#262
Weird how you are so sure you understand another's motivations without asking.
Unca Jim
Jan 2014
#290
Yeah, exactly, often the point of some (many?) of the religious is to make other
RKP5637
Jan 2014
#86
More than divisive, they program the unsullied human mind to accept the notion of completely
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#106
It seems IMO to be a hard wired brain function, hence leading IMO to more substantive proof of the
RKP5637
Jan 2014
#228
" ... what about those of us for whom it never made any sense, even as little kids, when we were
RKP5637
Jan 2014
#297
I'll add my unrec to yours. I can not believe over 160 duers rec'd such a stereotyping post
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#269
Seriously. I have not attended organized religion since I was young, but this goes beyond
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#272
Dawkins is an ideologue on this topic, and I see no evidence he's ever given any intelligent thought
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#6
As I said, there's no evidence he's ever given any serious thought to the matter
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#53
I'm sorry if I somehow gave you the impression I think he's an a-hole
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#64
Might could be. Then, again, unlike Dawkins, I don't cultivate the self-indulgent habit
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#92
No, he doesn't have enough of a sense of humor to invent stuff like Pastafarianism
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#70
You know zilch about my views of biology, and you read carelessly without comprehension
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#99
Dawkins is quite sure that any scientist who "compromises" with religious people
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#277
"...ultimately determine every aspect of how an organism looks..." not completely true. nt
yawnmaster
Jan 2014
#206
I agree that evolution is the key to understanding biology in the context of the other sciences
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#96
I keep seeing people complain about the bigotry and tribalism of religion
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#112
Ironic that you do not stand and oppose those clerics who call gay people by demonic
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#120
And plenty of those scientists don't apply the critical thinking of their disciplines to their faith
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#137
The belief that all things can be explained by "science" is itself an act of faith
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#146
No, belief in the scientific method and methodological naturalism is not based on faith.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#159
Um, the belief that I can remove the seat on my motorcycle with a 10mm wrench isn't 'faith'.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#166
"if such things exist, and cannot be observed, described, or understood, what do we do"
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#197
I would point out to that atheist that they are invested in the eugenics misconceptions of the 1920'
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#214
That assumes resistance is always possible. Assuming resistance had been exhausted
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#235
Resistance can't BE exhausted, when that very question/option you offer is up for consideration.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#237
That's a whole other can of worms--whether religion provides the only basis for morality.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#240
Religious faiths have spawned and continue to spawn many scientists and people of knowledge.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#256
So if a thing is negative religion is to blame, if it's a virtue religion is just a coincidence.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#264
If you think acceptance of evolution follows an easy religious/nonreligious divide, you're mistaken.
Nine
Jan 2014
#136
What worries me about Dawkins is that he teaches people to be satisfied with quoting Dawkins.
rug
Jan 2014
#7
Religion posts tend to get heated and should remain in the forums designated for them.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#25
The pope is responsible for the recent laxity on religion in gd. Take it up with Francis :-)
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#28
Actually the fact that a thread has lots of views replies and recs has been
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#35
I'm curious what great harm you think will ensue if we continue this discussion.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#40
As a former gd host you know quite well that it isn't that simple at all.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#48
skinner said they can stay for now. I agree they should not be but it is his call.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#34
Riiiight. Quietly acquiescing to the Catholic Church has been a great strategy over the centuries.
Arugula Latte
Jan 2014
#187
Yeah, it can be a turn off. I don't think people realize how they sound to others.
freshwest
Jan 2014
#37
Personally, I don't know who Richard Dawkins is (yet). . .but I like the quote.
Nanjing to Seoul
Jan 2014
#54
That you don't get the cacophonous irony of your reply is profound in itself.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#73
Do you believe in a magical being that knows everything that everything does at every moment?
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#87
Are you evading the questions? They were straight forward, unambiguous.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#108
Thanks. I try to put concepts into a cultural narrative that will be more readily received.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#109
I love that movie-- I just try to think of it as the story of Conarnold, Conan's cousin.
Marr
Jan 2014
#221
What worries me about the Bible is that it teaches people to be satisfied with quoting the Bible...n
SidDithers
Jan 2014
#156
What worries me is how many people pop off about religion without knowing what they're talking abot.
rug
Jan 2014
#190
What worries me is how many people pop off about Dawkins without knowing what they''re talking about
SidDithers
Jan 2014
#192
What worries me is how many people buy into the Pope's homophobic horseshit...
SidDithers
Jan 2014
#194
I am so far from being religious I can't even seen a church steeple, however ...
LisaLynne
Jan 2014
#16
Differnce is Santorum and Bachmann talk about their religion constantly while
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#125
That description could apply to the Pope but the OP praises and promotes the Pope
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#126
Plenty of religious leaders think too highly of themselves. Dawkins shares that with them.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#141
I see 'Science' and 'religion' as pretty similarly capable of great and harmful error
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#128
Exactly. And any reason based person, having seen a community make such grave
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#303
Presumably that explains to you why the Islamic world was a center of medieval learning,
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#101
Religious thought, like every other intellectual exercise, lays traps for the lazy
Maedhros
Jan 2014
#24
I don't think that it's quite correct to state that Dawkins consciously teaches people to be
Maedhros
Jan 2014
#52
Which Dawkins was undoubtedly aware of when he said this, at Mendel's monastery
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#139
It also worries me that it influences war stronger than anything we know...
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2014
#55
I dont like the quote. While philosophers may not be satisfied with not understanding
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#61
I agree with you comments about the ad hominem attacks. Consider the sources.
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#74
I understand your point. It just seems to me that those comfortable with not understanding are ok
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#274
Exactly. I miss unrec for posts like that. 163 recs for broadbrushing stereotyping caricature.
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#268
Religious people aren't satisfied with 'not understanding'. They simply understand...
Shandris
Jan 2014
#82
He is arrogant and he insulted people like me. So yes he will get words from me.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#140
so you would agree then that it is perfectly acceptable for anyone here
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#144
my slamming him does in no way shape or form mean that critism of religion is not valid.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#143
what worries me about all human, religious and non religious, is their capacity to hate.
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#103
Yep. Punishment for desiring knowledge is one of the first things that happens in the Bible.
Arugula Latte
Jan 2014
#167
It's worth an hour or so of your time to listen to Dr. Dawkins. Judge him for yourself,
dimbear
Jan 2014
#107
Aldrin is a living person, he is not dead. Speaking in the past tense is not appropirate.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#309
Kick if you agree with this assessment about the influence of religion on people.
The CCC
Jan 2014
#173
Well said. As an atheist who has read the Bible in English and Latin and who has taken enough
Texas Lawyer
Jan 2014
#260
I don't check my brain at the door when I go to church, nor do I feel like my religion is against
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#204
I suppose I agree-- but more precisely, my problem is that religion teaches people that
Marr
Jan 2014
#211
Here's a list of people whose thinking was crippled by their belief in a God:
Jackpine Radical
Jan 2014
#227
100 years ago (and until recently) the soi-disant "Enlightened" championed the Muslims against
MisterP
Jan 2014
#255
As a Catholic atheist, I dont' get that quote (and I'm generally a Dawkins fan). Sure, it's true
Texas Lawyer
Jan 2014
#246
I am more a fan of Hitchens than Dawkins, but the quote is essentially correct...
Demo_Chris
Jan 2014
#265
I see the hate wars are continuing. Do people really have nothing better to do?
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#279
Are you finally addressing the Dolan issue and the huge scandal it represents?
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#310
Yes those pro-pope threads are kind of a "fuck you" to people who despise the pope
el_bryanto
Jan 2014
#321