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In reply to the discussion: Stop Fawning Over Pope Francis at the Expense of Women and Gay Rights [View all]No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)72. How much is in your bank account? 401(K)?
It could/should be spent feeding the poor.
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Stop Fawning Over Pope Francis at the Expense of Women and Gay Rights [View all]
Jesus Malverde
Dec 2013
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Women & LGBT don’t need Catholics to be their friends, we need them to stop actively challenging
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#1
Again, awesome! But it doesn't change the fact they actively fight against my rights and the rights
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#144
Is it honest to present a request to stop fawning as a demand to 'stamp out' anything?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#21
How are we "tossing aside" issues simply because we see some good coming from Francis?
OnionPatch
Dec 2013
#114
Birth control is necessary to economic progress. It's necessary for our environment.
LeftyMom
Dec 2013
#6
But but but popey-poo said people should be NICE to us while they strip us of our rights.
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#8
Yes, because your key point is that the Pope is all talk -- so why do you include mere talk
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#23
And people here on DU BLAME him for not using the magic wand to make it go POOOOF!!!!!!
MADem
Dec 2013
#127
You are wrong about him being able to change doctrine. A Pope CANNOT change Church doctrine.
Drahthaardogs
Dec 2013
#35
He doesn't have to 'let' gay people get married, just stop actively challenging their rights. Same
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#37
Your being perplexed might spring from a lack of knowledge about Francis' role as
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#42
His first marriage annulment. The second, the mother of his children, he divorced
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#62
Yep, lots of people do what they please, or at least pick what they please
Drahthaardogs
Dec 2013
#93
Your assumption that he wants to 'move the bus' on homophobia in his Church
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#33
Can you give examples of what you mean by "ardent & vicious attacker"? As I understand it,
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#55
Francis said stopping marriage equality was 'God's war'. He said gay relationships
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#63
He's an absolute monarch whose word is law. He has absolute control over the church.
NYC Liberal
Dec 2013
#41
It is sad, because I believe the Roman Catholic Church needs some 21st Century updating
Drahthaardogs
Dec 2013
#79
Remember when Obama's position was "marriage is between a man and a woman- God is in the mix"?
Nye Bevan
Dec 2013
#22
I remember that he is a politician and he had previously spoken in favor of equality
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#52
yes, but only concerned that the punishment does not fit the sin (the crime)
Laughing Mirror
Dec 2013
#141
Both the Ugandan Catholic church & the international Catholic church have taken very public
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#68
82% of Uganda is either Catholic or Anglican, nothing happens there without
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#91
You make that claim; where's your evidence? Are you claiming the Catholic Church runs Uganda?
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#92
Your claim is that 82% of the population had nothing to do with this law?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#98
Funny. Your claim amounts to saying that even though both the Ugandan Catholic hierarchy
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#99
This 'which group of anti gay religionists is most culpable' trip is your own. To me they are all
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#115
Very public positions since 08? The Pope's assistant has expressed his concern and
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#95
Yes, public positions since '08. There were earlier iterations of this bill, you understand.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#96
cali, look at the number of people in this thread insisting that Francis is tolerant toward
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#36
"Fawning" is bad. Biblical social norms are bad. Economic justice is good. Not that complicated.
DirkGently
Dec 2013
#60
So because the Pope didn't instantly stand up against 3000 years of Church Dogma
SomethingFishy
Dec 2013
#83
At this point, I think it is fair to say quit the hypocritical gnashing of teeth.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2013
#84
thank you for this thread. i am getting annoyed with the fawning over this pope
Liberal_in_LA
Dec 2013
#86
i cant like someone who supports second class status for some of humanity
Liberal_in_LA
Dec 2013
#122
What? FYI - anyone that turns the stomach of the GOP with his caring...
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2013
#106
Of course not, but misrepresenting or denying his bigotry and opposition to women's rights is
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#116
I don't know that many here are "denying his bigotry and opposition to women's rights."
Le Taz Hot
Dec 2013
#118
Of course! He spoke out against Western corporate malfeasance! We MUST hate him now!
Rex
Dec 2013
#134
k&r This pope is a homophobic bigot, forced-birther, and protector of institutionalised pedophilia.
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#135
Until Obama, or Clinton or Warren or Sanders or ANY politician admits that the state is an
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2013
#147