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freshwest

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215. Demand from corporations? They have stockholders to pay. They are their owners and demand a return.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

If consumers or workers demand better treatment they are the ones who 'race to the bottom' by moving to states with low minimum wages, use prison labor or move abroad. Right now they are using lobbyists to get Congress to screw the last vestige of a socialized universal service that provides for the country's people, not profits for a few.

And the 'starve the beast' crowd has made almost certain that the government, which was put in place to regulate them for the good of the people and not rip them off, has less power to stop them.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
~ Thomas Jefferson

They are not the people's friends, even some non-profits extract funds and take public assets to give to private groups. This is constant pattern since Nixon started his 'government should be run like a business, and private business does it better' mantra.

To answer that, I would give the examples of Blackwater and these alternative mail carriers, who have raced to the bottom in wages and working conditions. The corporations hate those union postal workers with good wages, pensions and benefits, but won't allow unions and the same for their own workers.

They are the race to the bottom shills, who will never stop doing it. After all, it's their business model. As far as theft is concerned, the free market steals lives. Slavery was and is a part of the free market today. And their heirarchy has one purpose, to funnel the money to the few that own shares or the CEOs.

It doesn't make them evil. Their function is not the same as an institution run for the good of all.

Please don't take offense at my tone, I am not criticizing your general meaning, I just think the problem is bigger than the one think. I may be not speaking to the exact things you are concerned about. Peace.

K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #1
I was just about to post something about this when I saw this post. kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #111
You must study and learn the REAL reason that the RW would like to destroy the USPS. It's still kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #113
Sadly, it's not only Republicans who want to privatize the Post Office. merrily Dec 2013 #162
Very interesting malaise Dec 2013 #191
History is a lesson few learn. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #193
They always do. It one of the biggest reasons the parasites want to destroy it. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #2
Better results for a fraction of the cost malaise Dec 2013 #3
Thank you very much. I hope your celebrations are are so good Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #21
Back at you malaise Dec 2013 #23
Except when it takes the USPS two weeks to deliver a package. But no one will talk about that here madinmaryland Dec 2013 #146
That's YOUR experience, definitely not mine nikto Dec 2013 #149
It has been my experience over the last 30 years that service really sucks from madinmaryland Dec 2013 #155
I agree with this, for sure... nikto Dec 2013 #158
I am glad that you know how to use the "search" feature on DU. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #159
No, you are on the right side... nikto Dec 2013 #174
Definitely not my experience. merrily Dec 2013 #161
Banned for BobUp Dec 2013 #192
I call BS. Doremus Dec 2013 #225
It was Priority and was stuck in Cincinnati for over a week. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #227
Ho hum. Doremus Dec 2013 #233
Yes, its great news for those opposed to the elleng Dec 2013 #4
Operating on the cheap to make more money means not enough trucks malaise Dec 2013 #6
The USPS is an astonishing large system, brilliant. Literally, the envy of the world, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #12
That isn't even hyperbole, the USPS is the envy of the world Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2013 #72
As good as it is One_Life_To_Give Dec 2013 #201
when Silicon Valley needs a Package delivered to Wall street before 10AM AlbertCat Dec 2013 #218
The USPS was closed most of Sat and all of Sun, Dec 21st and 22nd. JimDandy Dec 2013 #81
'Closed?' elleng Dec 2013 #83
That is exactly what happened nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #84
They closed at 1 pm Sat, Dec 21st JimDandy Dec 2013 #91
My Post Office was open until 5pm the Saturday before Christmas. nt bluestate10 Dec 2013 #123
I'm seeing others say that too. JimDandy Dec 2013 #148
I live in Lone Tree ellie Dec 2013 #170
This message was self-deleted by its author JimDandy Dec 2013 #177
I'm a rural carrier GobBluth Dec 2013 #139
Thanks for your good info. JimDandy Dec 2013 #222
Better than staying open and pretending they could deliver packages pnwmom Dec 2013 #154
The packages that Fedex and UPS couldn't deliver were likely shipped out on Saturday. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #119
Selected US Post Offices were open across the country on the Saturday and Sunday bluestate10 Dec 2013 #117
And just to back up what you said nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #121
I got a USPS packaged delivered to my home on the Sunday before Christmas. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #124
Some areas, so our poster was right to a point, implemented Sunday deliverty nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #125
I do not feel that the USPS should be privatized. Glassunion Dec 2013 #5
Read the new link malaise Dec 2013 #7
Thanks! Glassunion Dec 2013 #8
I'll back it up. anasv Dec 2013 #9
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Dec 2013 #11
Do you know that UPS or FEDEX may have flown that package? hack89 Dec 2013 #18
So? Sanity Claws Dec 2013 #24
Or UPS gave priority to USPS mail hack89 Dec 2013 #34
Having the proper contracts in place is part of being prepared Sanity Claws Dec 2013 #44
More likely, it was Delta or United... GoCubsGo Dec 2013 #106
I am amazed by the number of republican talking points that are being conjured up to bluestate10 Dec 2013 #126
No they don't hack89 Dec 2013 #129
You are attempting to conflate the issue. The USPS uses it's own planes and bluestate10 Dec 2013 #140
The USPS uses FedEx. Igel Dec 2013 #165
I believe that's not correct anasv Dec 2013 #234
The USPS contracts out all air shipments hack89 Dec 2013 #235
My sister mailed a package from Miami to a friend in Baltimore on Tuesday malaise Dec 2013 #22
I got terrible results from USPS as early as Dec 9th JimDandy Dec 2013 #88
FWIW sarge43 Dec 2013 #13
The OP link another article that backed up the statement. Glassunion Dec 2013 #15
I suspect their contracts with UPS, FEDEX and other carriers require them to give priority hack89 Dec 2013 #16
Merely a suspicion/guess on your part? LanternWaste Dec 2013 #74
Not that big of a deal hack89 Dec 2013 #103
LOVES me some USPS annabanana Dec 2013 #10
He sure did malaise Dec 2013 #41
The USPS depends on private companies like UPS and FEDEX to move mail long distances hack89 Dec 2013 #14
Not as much as you think. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #30
Thank you for your hard work. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #35
I appreciate that. Just so you and any other readers are aware, that trip left on Xmas eve. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #43
Would you rather stay where you are, or would you rather be a USPS employee, if that were possible? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #82
At this point in my life.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #96
I meant as a driver. I assumed that you like your job, I just wanted to know whether or not Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #172
Looking at the USPW union website .... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #175
My little sister worked for them, it's a good gig. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #176
It works both ways GobBluth Dec 2013 #142
I noticed that. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #17
Heh heh. Gotta love the karmic justice in this. DinahMoeHum Dec 2013 #19
Big time malaise Dec 2013 #31
Yeah? Fuck them. frogmarch Dec 2013 #20
I've sent stuff to Hawaii. RC Dec 2013 #60
Funny that you mention that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #75
We just had one of those robberies here, in my community last week. SharonAnn Dec 2013 #95
Yes, it is a federal felony nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #97
Mid-Michigan ice storm slowed USPS down, a bit. Octafish Dec 2013 #25
They usually do malaise Dec 2013 #29
anytime I order anything fadedrose Dec 2013 #26
Me too! +1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #46
Is it possible when ordering on Amazon to request the USPS? totodeinhere Dec 2013 #120
Yes, I do it regularly nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #122
Thanks. Can you tell me how to do that? I don't see that option listed on totodeinhere Dec 2013 #127
When I finish placing an order and pick shipping nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #128
Thanks but I'm still confused. The only option I see is choosing shipping speed, not the totodeinhere Dec 2013 #133
I have no idea, my shipments as standard shipping nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #134
I have fired off an email to Amazon and will post their answer totodeinhere Dec 2013 #136
You can't pick a specific carrier. zappaman Dec 2013 #219
Thanks. That's what I thought as well. n/t totodeinhere Dec 2013 #232
I always find a spot where I can add it ....S fadedrose Dec 2013 #163
They even delivered a package on Sunday Stargazer09 Dec 2013 #27
USPS was delivering on Sunday because packages were already days late JimDandy Dec 2013 #94
Nope, they were delivering under contract for Amazon nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #105
Nope, the postal worker apologized for being days late JimDandy Dec 2013 #108
Well, given that my husband currently works at the plant nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #110
Wow - Well, you don't get to practically call me a liar and then not be put on ignore... JimDandy Dec 2013 #114
And I will do you the courtesy none of these folks who nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #116
I've always been a big post office fan. I never understood people's complaints about it. nt valerief Dec 2013 #28
Because the only interaction they typically have with the Post Office is either their.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #32
It's amazing when you think about it malaise Dec 2013 #33
Ha! I wish the Post Office was our healthcare single payer!!!! nt valerief Dec 2013 #36
If they could go inside a large processing plant, they would think summerschild Dec 2013 #59
Funny that you mention that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #64
Most every NDC uses an "Annex" building to handle much of the extra Christmas volume A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #71
Joy Reid wants to know why ReTHUGs aren't attacking UPS and Fedex malaise Dec 2013 #38
I ordered nearly all of Christmas Go Vols Dec 2013 #37
Ebay has a preferred shipper contract with them nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #53
I love the USPS so great news! I got packages Cha Dec 2013 #39
Clearly this is something cooked up by the Obama administration... Contrary1 Dec 2013 #40
I'm not so sure. Jacoby365 Dec 2013 #42
Same USPS horror stories in our family - they just aren't making the news. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #93
I have plenty of similar stories from FedEx and UPS packages. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2013 #135
K&R! We love the USPS! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #45
Bwaaaaaaaaaah UPS' disaster leads ABC international news malaise Dec 2013 #51
I mailed my Christmas boxes, everything reached their destinations in time. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #47
I saw a USPS truck delivering mail last Sunday. OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #48
XMas delivery Morwen_Madrigal Dec 2013 #49
Both shippers admit they were overwhelmed and it was NOT weather related nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #54
Merry Meet Morwen (though I am not Wiccan). Welcome to DU Hestia Dec 2013 #231
Some of it, all three were late nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #50
Which explains why the lazy delivery guy at UPS dropped off a package INFRONT of Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #52
fookin' A and a merry christmas to malaise!!!!! spanone Dec 2013 #55
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah - perfect response malaise Dec 2013 #56
U2 ma'am spanone Dec 2013 #58
I'm not making excuses, but there are 3 definite reasons for these delays: KatyaR Dec 2013 #57
If it were the post office not one of those three excuses would have been acceptable malaise Dec 2013 #61
Muddle this one fora second nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #66
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2013 #185
#3 is the deal - elehhhhna Dec 2013 #90
The Post Office rocks! ProSense Dec 2013 #62
But...but gubmint don't work! ClusterFox nooze says so! muntrv Dec 2013 #63
ClusterFox is always wrong malaise Dec 2013 #203
No. TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #65
Exactly. Their performance was equally as poor as UPS and FedEx, JimDandy Dec 2013 #100
It was linked later uponit7771 Dec 2013 #187
Shhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Dec 2013 #229
THE USPS WAS VERY FAST THIS SEASON bucolic_frolic Dec 2013 #67
Rates for first class mail, that IMO should be at least a buck nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #70
FedEx is suffering from some self-inflicted wounds at the moment Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2013 #68
Just curious, what's your source for this info? Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2013 #78
USPS always delivers! idendoit Dec 2013 #69
Sent big package to grandkids in Delaware USPS mountain grammy Dec 2013 #73
Yes indeed malaise Dec 2013 #181
Thanks, malaise. Happy Holidays to you too! mountain grammy Dec 2013 #199
post office delivered on sunday. i saw their trucks in my neighborhood Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #76
Post office was overwhelmed too. Most of our priority pkgs were late.. glowing Dec 2013 #77
The post office hires temp workers every year for the crunch nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #80
It would be really great if they did buy their own fleets and hire long distance truckers, glowing Dec 2013 #86
The no planes decision was taken decades ago nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #87
Not all the long distance contractors are Unionized. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #101
I am thinking of USPS employees here, not contractors nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #102
Well, you said "I think they use long distance through the teamsters" A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #115
There are several unions within the USPS nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #118
Thank you, I have learned yet another item on DU. Wouldn't get these lessons via media or at a glowing Dec 2013 #138
Well, he was management!!! Just a joke nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #141
She was all in one, very small town, so she was the only one in the building to staff it.. LOL glowing Dec 2013 #143
Rural stations are a whole different ball of wax nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #144
Where does it say Chuuku Davis Dec 2013 #79
Wtf! Rec button only works once #!^*% johnnyreb Dec 2013 #85
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #89
K&R +1,000! TRoN33 Dec 2013 #92
And for significantly less. Ilsa Dec 2013 #98
Thanks, malaise! I love my little PO, and always use it instead of USPS or fedex whenever possible. Zorra Dec 2013 #99
You're welcome malaise Dec 2013 #196
This is ridiculous seattledo Dec 2013 #104
Exactly - accountability for all - government or private enterprise. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #109
Demand from corporations? They have stockholders to pay. They are their owners and demand a return. freshwest Dec 2013 #215
I have no "dog in the fight" as they say, but my experience is that they all are Helen Highwater Dec 2013 #107
I have to admit that UPS did ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #112
Maybe this new stamp will help ... Scuba Dec 2013 #130
Ha! That would be appropriate. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #160
Another K&R Omaha Steve Dec 2013 #131
Thanks Omaha Steve malaise Dec 2013 #182
Same to you Omaha Steve Dec 2013 #188
The great thing about this OP is the number of questionable "democrats" it is exposing. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #132
Isn't that the truth malaise Dec 2013 #190
YESSS! This is a fab development for the AWESOME UNITED STATE POST OFFICE PEEPS! WinkyDink Dec 2013 #137
It is great news malaise Dec 2013 #221
To be fair, my wife sent a package to Sarasota, FL twelve days ago through the USPS madinmaryland Dec 2013 #145
Here is a piece of statistic for you nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #147
You cite something from the USPS to support your claim? As a journalist, I would have thought you madinmaryland Dec 2013 #150
Neither publishes them except for investors nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #152
As a good friend likes to say malaise Dec 2013 #184
Your example clearly PROVES AYN RAND RIGHT FOR ALL TIME!! nikto Dec 2013 #153
Oh, FFS, where did I say that. I was just joining in with another anecdotal story. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #157
Good 4 You. nikto Dec 2013 #173
All my USPS packages made it on time. AllyCat Dec 2013 #151
Similar to my experience nikto Dec 2013 #156
I always use the Post Office malaise Dec 2013 #230
Note: Fed Ex is non-union, UPS is unionized. ErikJ Dec 2013 #164
Anecdotal reporting is hogwash matt819 Dec 2013 #166
And let's not forget shanti Dec 2013 #167
We sent packages via UPS... CoffeeCat Dec 2013 #168
Malaise, your 'Delish! I'm lovin' it!!!' is my feeling, too! Went to the P. O. today and said TY... freshwest Dec 2013 #169
What a magnificent post malaise Dec 2013 #180
U. S. Postal Service makes profits for our government Midnight Writer Dec 2013 #171
Well said malaise Dec 2013 #183
You are confusing profits with cash flows. joeglow3 Dec 2013 #195
Little problem with your position jeff47 Dec 2013 #202
Wrong, wrong, wrong. joeglow3 Dec 2013 #204
Why on Earth would I want you to "explain" it when you think $183M is "break even"? jeff47 Dec 2013 #208
This message was self-deleted by its author joeglow3 Dec 2013 #211
I will try again joeglow3 Dec 2013 #212
And you'll fail again. jeff47 Dec 2013 #214
Why are we not surprised! burrowowl Dec 2013 #178
K and R senseandsensibility Dec 2013 #179
Great service with USPS PADemD Dec 2013 #186
K&R tecelote Dec 2013 #189
Even Morning Joe Scum is talking about this although malaise Dec 2013 #194
Ha! Good point. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #223
Government works better than many corporations malaise Dec 2013 #207
I'm sick of privatization of things that should be GOVERNMENT run for the benefit of all. loudsue Dec 2013 #197
What's very important here is that the Post Office is in the Constitution malaise Dec 2013 #205
the print at home is AWESOME!!!!!!! mopinko Dec 2013 #198
Here's another good thread on the subject malaise Dec 2013 #206
Or place your online order before the 22nd One_Life_To_Give Dec 2013 #200
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #209
I dropped off a package on Thurs. at our local PO Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #210
My son's christmas present Borchkins Dec 2013 #213
Yes and USPS delivers it correctly to me (something FedEx can't seem to do) suffragette Dec 2013 #216
Back at you sis! malaise Dec 2013 #220
It's "glom of nit." Don't you read Terry Pratchett? :) malthaussen Dec 2013 #217
DUzy malaise Dec 2013 #224
AND, when Amazon decided to launch Sunday delivery, who did they pick? Not Me Dec 2013 #226
I read an article this morning placing a the blame on the online retailers meadowlark5 Dec 2013 #228
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