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freshwest

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16. IDK about your conclusions on individuals, but the 1% had better watch themselves.

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:12 AM

Dec 2013

There are millions more Catholics than there are of them. They should remember how many governments and other insitutions were brought down by religions in the past.

As the 1% deliberately weakened governments to remove a barrier to their power, they had best not try to incite the believers. They weren't merciful in the past when they had total control.

Dangerous game they are playing, to attack this Pope, especially. And yes, he has cut out a lot of their friends. He's going his own way, crossing barriers between different societal groups. He's already condemned the policies in the harshest terms, essentially saying they are going to hell.

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A threat to the 1%? Are the attacks on the Pope Coordinated? [View all] Chrom Dec 2013 OP

Organized religion keeps people powerless and ignorant. nt valerief Dec 2013 #1

only if they allow it to. i know DesertFlower Dec 2013 #4

MANY women forced to wear burquas for religious reasons valerief Dec 2013 #24

People are damaged by religion billhicks76 Dec 2013 #17

What cartoon did that line fall out of? rug Dec 2013 #76

Yes, that liberation theology slip is showing nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #2

Of course they are. The right does understand mass manipulation of weak minds. Scuba Dec 2013 #3

"show me (words, words, words)" niyad Dec 2013 #5

Yes. I dislike him because I'm a 1%er. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #6

Sounds like because he don't meet your test on your issues. zeemike Dec 2013 #11

Yeah, god forbid I oppose homophobia, bigotry, and sexism. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #13

There is a difference between opposing it and rejecting help. zeemike Dec 2013 #14

Rights for LGBT, reproductive rights for women, and allowing women to serve in positions of power Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #20

Don't worry I know I will never change your mind. zeemike Dec 2013 #21

There is a qualitative difference between your issues.. sendero Jan 2014 #118

But he's "Pro-life" so some of the RW Christians might come around. ErikJ Dec 2013 #7

It's one thing to say I am against poverty MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #8

you fight poverty with structural change: the Henry VIII approach only enriched the gentry... MisterP Dec 2013 #18

Reproductive rights are structural change cprise Dec 2013 #82

well, if you want to dig into natalism it's an extremely broad issue MisterP Dec 2013 #94

The physical fundamentals are changing cprise Dec 2013 #97

I know the Pope is flawed. He's human. Phlem Dec 2013 #9

I think it's a bit of a slander to suggest that the people attacking the pope el_bryanto Dec 2013 #10

Gay people are suffering from poverty and inequalilty just the same as straights Chrom Dec 2013 #28

I agree that that aspect of it is gratifying el_bryanto Dec 2013 #30

Occupy had a real chance of uniting the left and the right against the bankers who stole from US Chrom Dec 2013 #36

Seems to me... theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #37

why focus hatred on the pope, when right wingers are far worse, and the pope is sticking it to them Chrom Dec 2013 #43

You're telling entire minority communities to sit down and shut up. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #61

no one told you to shut up Chrom Dec 2013 #68

You equated the criticism of the Pope to being tools of the 1%. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #75

You are telling any DUer criticial of the Pope to shut up muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #110

The problem is that many of those who are attacking the Pope are long time posters el_bryanto Dec 2013 #39

and many people have rec'd this thread so they can see what I am saying Chrom Dec 2013 #44

OK - so you see no reason to criticize the Pope other than to support the 1%? nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #56

I see the Pope telling bigots like Paul Ryan to shut the fuck up Chrom Dec 2013 #70

That's a strong quote - can you provide a citation? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #72

Thanks Bryant, but the word 'attacking' is not the proper word, what you see is defense of ourselves Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #69

I call them like I see them; obviously I disagree with you on your assessment of Pope Frances nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #71

50% of Tea Baggers admit believing Nevernose Jan 2014 #115

I darsay the OP JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #52

The same as straights? You really think that's true? PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #55

Opposing bigotry and misogyny is now imposing a "purity test"? NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #12

I will repost from here Go Vols Dec 2013 #15

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #83

IDK about your conclusions on individuals, but the 1% had better watch themselves. freshwest Dec 2013 #16

Yeah, we hate him because we're totally fighting for the 1% and we're totally right wing plants. JoeyT Dec 2013 #19

what is weird is the folks accusing the Pope of being hateful, are seriously full of hate toward him Chrom Dec 2013 #27

He said that gays raising children is a form of child abuse. That is one reason why. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #63

Yeah, fuck the LGBT community, right? NuclearDem Dec 2013 #22

This LGBT magazine is able to recognize that this is not just about the pope Chrom Dec 2013 #23

And it was a stupid call on the Advocate's part. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #26

They DO have legitimate criticisms to make. But some people's comments pnwmom Dec 2013 #111

Sometimes its a matter of how bigotry is manifested theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #113

The latest case in point... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #116

If there were no organized religion in the world, it would be a better place. boston bean Dec 2013 #25

Well, organized religion is with us nevertheless. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #29

Sorry, even with that new nugget of info, I'm still not going to church on Sunday.. LOL boston bean Dec 2013 #31

Not much into Sunday services myself. People getting married, Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #34

There are plenty of non-troll reasons to disagree with the Pope gollygee Dec 2013 #32

The only thing that seems to be coordinated around here... theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #33

The fawning isn't just annoying anymore. It has now become offensive. NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #53

Agreed. Welcome to Papal Underground! PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #64

why click on the threads? Why pursue people who want to enjoy the Pope's message? Chrom Dec 2013 #67

So only people who agree with an OP are supposed to post in them? NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #74

Why him? Because he is one of the world's leading NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #89

some might find the angry attacks on the pope offensive Chrom Dec 2013 #86

Some might find attacks on Jerry Falwell or NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #88

where are the threads attacking them? Chrom Dec 2013 #91

Perhaps the question could be restated thusly... theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #95

You have alot of nerve Marrah_G Dec 2013 #35

+1... SidDithers Dec 2013 #38

Who would I be working for? A secret freeper who loves the pope and hates republicans Chrom Dec 2013 #45

No kidding. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #54

Yesterday, I posted a thread calling Pope Francis to account MineralMan Dec 2013 #40

I was just asking questions, pondering the threat this pope is to the 1%.... Chrom Dec 2013 #42

Who is "hating on" the Pope? MineralMan Dec 2013 #46

Herein lies your misconception in your own words. Cleita Dec 2013 #49

He has said almost nothing new about poverty and economic justice. MineralMan Dec 2013 #58

" Nice speeches about economic justice are just that, if nothing real is done about it. " Chrom Dec 2013 #73

Actually, the Pope has much more power in the RCC MineralMan Dec 2013 #79

That's funny, Bush demanded tax cuts and he got them Chrom Dec 2013 #80

The institution preaches what he tells it to. NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #66

Progressive Dems love it. For the centrists, it's the wrong messenger for them. raouldukelives Dec 2013 #41

I'm no lover of the Catholic Church nor the Vatican and the Papacy, but Cleita Dec 2013 #47

The kind that has seen history and how it plays out... Tikki Dec 2013 #48

We can embrace progress made by this pope... Orsino Dec 2013 #50

We can…if we are willing to settle…slow or stop progress... Tikki Dec 2013 #60

It may be that he makes no further progress... Orsino Dec 2013 #85

Yes, if the rich back candidates and legislature to open more money and opportunity to the poor and. Tikki Dec 2013 #92

Occam's Razor NoOneMan Dec 2013 #51

Not Yet RandySF Dec 2013 #57

Yes, a lot of people hate the Pope... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #59

If you believe the Catholic Church is going to hurt the 1% in any way, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #62

Francis IS the 1%, fantastically wealthy, richest cleric of all time. The RCC is one of the world's Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #65

Jesuits take a vow of poverty and cannot own wealth or property. Don't confuse the holdings Cleita Dec 2013 #84

You seem to be confusing the Pope with the Catholic Church. El_Johns Dec 2013 #90

The pope is an absolute monarch who has absolute control NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #96

I doubt it. El_Johns Dec 2013 #98

There some who despise religion no matter what. rug Dec 2013 #77

How the Vatican built a secret property empire. The Guardian. Who do YOU serve? Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #78

Pope's Personal Assistant to Oversee Bank Reform Chrom Dec 2013 #87

Dog-whistles, not just for republicans anymore! WhollyHeretic Dec 2013 #81

Until the Church makes real progress on women's rights they can fuck off. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #93

I'm pretty sure women are at least 50% of those suffering from poverty Chrom Dec 2013 #99

And the best way to improve women's status is to empower them to control their reproduction. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #100

who is stopping you from getting contraception- c'mon! Chrom Dec 2013 #103

The Catholic Church is blocking access for a lot of women in the developing world. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #104

Tell it to these women theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #105

Or how about this? theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #106

Or this? theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #109

Let's add one more shall, we? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #117

Sorry, but just the idea of a pope bugs me - how top-down can you get? polichick Dec 2013 #101

Isn't it amazing how those who disagree with anothers opinion raise holy hell while trying to force Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #102

Great observation. It's so simple a point yet so ignored Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #108

Yes. That's why we should talk about issues, not personalities. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #107

kick Chrom Jan 2014 #112

Rather than a kick... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #114

I'm not your monkey Chrom Jan 2014 #119

No answer, huh? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #120

You are just a homophobic bigot apologist, no more, no less... Humanist_Activist Jan 2014 #121