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jtuck004

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42. We have\had unions. They lost. And the Industrial Unions that might have done something were

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 05:57 PM

Dec 2013

killed off by the Business Unions in collaboration with the government and business.And those were killed off by collaboration between business and government.

Ownership (or at least say so over the assets, like the Ind. Unions tried to push) is the only thing that will protect us - otherwise we will always and forever be in a subordinate position, subject to the whims of our enemies.

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Why your job sucks: Sub shop employees fired two days before Christmas. [View all] riqster Dec 2013 OP

One more thing. House of Roberts Dec 2013 #1

A very good point! riqster Dec 2013 #2

It does suck, but... eggplant Dec 2013 #18

I stand corrected on the unemployment bennies. riqster Dec 2013 #22

No harm, no foul. n/t eggplant Dec 2013 #38

Torches and pitchforks PsychoBunny Dec 2013 #3

They only seem to be effective in the short run. riqster Dec 2013 #4

That only works on T.V. Many people dredge up the French Revolution, but they just read chapter 1, jtuck004 Dec 2013 #8

What's going on will hit more and more people that thought they were safe. It's just too brewens Dec 2013 #5

The wealthy are depending on those not yet hurt Stargazer99 Dec 2013 #20

Yup. Some salesman working 60 hours a week making 100 large per year thinking brewens Dec 2013 #46

Companies pay for unemployment insurance joeglow3 Dec 2013 #6

And when their costs become excessive, they reincorporate and begin again. bluedigger Dec 2013 #11

UI is part of the grand bargain Vox Moi Dec 2013 #14

Why your job sucks: Sub shop employees fired two days before Christmas. The CCC Dec 2013 #7

Or three large Chicago men. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #12

Sadly, a conscience is needed for that to work. It's the one thing these owners lack. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #15

Unemployment insurance SoCalNative Dec 2013 #9

So if they want to make subs, they start their own and compete with the bastards. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #10

Exactly. Chan790 Dec 2013 #17

>advantage they reap is bulk purchasing and merchandising deals< Which can be largely offset by jtuck004 Dec 2013 #43

this is why we need unions Stargazer99 Dec 2013 #21

Damn skippy. riqster Dec 2013 #23

We have\had unions. They lost. And the Industrial Unions that might have done something were jtuck004 Dec 2013 #42

Easier said than done. If a person doesn't own the building, a shop start up rent can run bluestate10 Dec 2013 #51

Nothing easy about servitude either...but if one doesn't try to start walking away, it's jtuck004 Dec 2013 #57

2 days before Christmas the Ultimate FU FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #13

Unions - TBF Dec 2013 #16

A big part of the problem has been the legislative assault on unions. riqster Dec 2013 #19

unions trekbiker Dec 2013 #24

A great success story! riqster Dec 2013 #25

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Yes, it's so easy to pursue one's dreams... cyberswede Dec 2013 #27

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Meanwhile, they were Scrooged! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2013 #29

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How nice for you...and yet they still have shit. nt cyberswede Dec 2013 #32

Not to mention shit sandwiches to eat! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2013 #41

And with less bread, there is more shit. riqster Dec 2013 #49

And following dreams can eat up a lot of bread. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2013 #50

The only problem with that approach is that it can be used to the employers' advantage. riqster Dec 2013 #35

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And of course you yourself are going to be supporting those for whom Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #33

Things also fall apart for people in amazing ways... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #37

Enjoy your stay. May it be brief! nt raccoon Dec 2013 #36

They will definitely have more time to go to the Library, thats for sure! William769 Dec 2013 #40

It's too bad we don't have any effective labor laws or an administration willing to enforce them. nt Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #31

wasn't this the goal ? NM_Birder Dec 2013 #34

Nobody strikes to lose a job. riqster Dec 2013 #63

Strikes are intended to drive negotiations toward an outcome.... NM_Birder Dec 2013 #68

A lot of small businesses close down over night. cbdo2007 Dec 2013 #39

It's a chain, run out of CO. This is the only location that was closed in this manner. riqster Dec 2013 #45

I was part of a Christmas week layoff a few years ago IDemo Dec 2013 #47

During the party? Jesus Christ on toast. riqster Dec 2013 #48

Yeah - how's that for class? IDemo Dec 2013 #52

My previous employer was almost as crappy. riqster Dec 2013 #61

My husband just got laid off 2 weeks ago. OwnedByCats Dec 2013 #59

You said it: riqster Dec 2013 #62

That's terrible! Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2013 #53

^^^THIS^^^ riqster Dec 2013 #64

Looks like they may have an EEOC complaint. enlightenment Dec 2013 #54

I hope they do, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #58

Thence my blog post. riqster Dec 2013 #60

Like I said, enlightenment Dec 2013 #65

It would not be EEOC, it is the NLRB. former9thward Dec 2013 #66

Good point. Thanks for clarifying. enlightenment Dec 2013 #67

'We have *turned our backs on* the unions and other agents who helped to decrease the suck...' freshwest Dec 2013 #55

Ummm...I wonder if Lunacee_2013 Dec 2013 #56