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Ghost Dog

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32. Something that would shade to the right, controlled degree, the upper atmosphere
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:44 PM
Dec 2013

without provoking such as a 'nuclear winter'. Finding a way to control volcanic activity, for example.

And some way, also controllable, to adjust chemical balances in the ocean.

This would come, presumably, after having tackled the main problem and having achieved a radical socio-political and economic-financial transformation of all 'globalised' cultures, for as the article says, in the words of McPherson:

... “There’s not much money in the end of civilization, and even less to be made in human extinction.” The destruction of the planet, on the other hand, is a good bet, ... “because there is money in this, and as long as that’s the case, it is going to continue.”...


Edit: Also, I see the Arctic Methane Emergency Group suggest cloud-making or 'cloud cooling' as they call it, as seen eg. here: http://geo-engineering.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/electrostatic-nanocone-ion-gun-vortex-separated-ideal-drop-size-saltwater-cloud-cannons.html and here: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/in-depth/interviews/leading-wave-energy-pioneer-prof-stephen-salter/1014047.article
Pic of Arctic water temps RobertEarl Dec 2013 #1
Melting permafrost will pump tons of methane into the air. Methane is a very potent GH gas. alfredo Dec 2013 #3
. Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #17
They say that Venus is an example of greenhouse gasses alfredo Dec 2013 #22
For a variety of reasons, absolutely not. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #31
Explain. My knowledge is old. alfredo Dec 2013 #38
ironicaly amusing if an ice-free shipping zone opens up on the Siberian side and not the NA side nilram Dec 2013 #7
Awesome coaster, dude! Can't wait for that to happen! WowSeriously Dec 2013 #2
If you are sitting in the front you get hammered when you hit the water. alfredo Dec 2013 #4
That doesn't sound fun. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #6
When I was younger I liked getting hammered. alfredo Dec 2013 #23
What, me hammered? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2013 #15
These cases are the extreme worst cases, the GOP says nothing.... Logical Dec 2013 #5
What worries me is that the ocean is still absorbing a lot of grantcart Dec 2013 #11
I agree! nt Logical Dec 2013 #20
Woods Hole/OCBproject's "20 facts about Ocean Acidification" Agony Dec 2013 #44
Good source. It also allows for a much clearer answer for those that have trouble understanding grantcart Dec 2013 #47
Maybe so. Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #19
You are right. Wacky was a bad word...... Logical Dec 2013 #21
True, but it seems the scientist have had to readjust their alfredo Dec 2013 #24
And a lot of this "the findings are all getting worse, all the time" stuff is hooey as well..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #30
the reality has continued to exceed the "extreme worst cases" predicted magical thyme Dec 2013 #48
Good point! nt Logical Dec 2013 #60
Kick.... daleanime Dec 2013 #8
kinda glad I'm old. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #9
I wish I was a little older... Moostache Dec 2013 #10
Oh do I hear you. I ventured out on a drive cross the County truedelphi Dec 2013 #13
I think that sometimes, but then I think I need alfredo Dec 2013 #25
Does anyone have hope or faith, or science-based expectation cilla4progress Dec 2013 #12
Kissinger was infamous for his quote about culling the herd - you know, truedelphi Dec 2013 #14
I guess that would be a 'socio-political' rather than technological Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #16
I know that's the standard prescription cilla4progress Dec 2013 #29
Something that would shade to the right, controlled degree, the upper atmosphere Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #32
I see you've been paying attention! cilla4progress Dec 2013 #34
I graduated from one of the first multi-disciplinary environmental science courses Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #66
Just sent your earlier post cilla4progress Dec 2013 #73
All I know is I was very happy to see Stephen Colbert tear David Keith a new one. truedelphi Dec 2013 #37
He could have started with himself Aerows Dec 2013 #69
I know. Any time any horrid person like Kissinger talks about truedelphi Dec 2013 #70
And honestly, I do wonder how much climate doomerism may play into such fantasies................... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #72
We have to find a cure for greed first. alfredo Dec 2013 #26
No. Any "technological breakthrough" will only create a new set of problems magical thyme Dec 2013 #49
"STFU. We don't want to hear no steenkin truth. Sneer." - RepubliBaggers, Inc. (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #18
TV News and Extreme Weather: Don't Mention Climate Change G_j Dec 2013 #27
+1 countryjake Dec 2013 #46
Here comes the fearmongering again..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #28
Damn fearmongering US Navy climate scientists NickB79 Dec 2013 #35
Way to take my comment outta context, Nick. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #36
What is your worst case scenario from global warming climate change? n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #40
About ~4*C by 2100 under business-as-usual..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #51
Yes they have a track record but it has been on the conservative side as you stated. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #57
You do realize I had that in *quotes*, right? As in....with an element of sarcasm? AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #61
The IPCC used HADCrut data extensively NickB79 Dec 2013 #58
Sorry, but this is only ONE study..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #62
Perhaps you missed this part NickB79 Dec 2013 #64
There's still a problem that you refuse to acknowledge, Nick. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #65
So when these alarmists CFLDem Dec 2013 #33
you do realize there is no such thing as an emission-free automobile magical thyme Dec 2013 #50
I apologize for my egregious genralization. CFLDem Dec 2013 #52
dramatically reduced emission vehicles are irrelevent until the existing fleet is largely replaced magical thyme Dec 2013 #54
Paragraphs are our friend. CFLDem Dec 2013 #55
I used to criticize the format rather than the content too... but then I learned how to read better. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #67
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #39
Irishman to Noah: "'tis only a shower." Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #41
“We’ve Never Been Here as a Species” Rex Dec 2013 #42
You've attracted the Corporate Chorus, nice. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #43
Yup, isn't that special... countryjake Dec 2013 #45
Or rather, the "humanity is doomed, we cannot survive, give in" meme. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #71
The Republicon Lie Machine and their SuckerPuppets can lie about reality till their money runs out Berlum Dec 2013 #53
so what about the other pole? n/t ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2013 #56
The other pole is also losing ice mass NickB79 Dec 2013 #59
Kick Auggie Dec 2013 #63
What would happen to the sea level if ALL the ice were to melt? ryan_cats Dec 2013 #68
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