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Fortinbras Armstrong

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89. I have read it.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 07:14 AM
Dec 2013

It's on-line here. And I think you are misreading it, joshcryer.

Here are the significant sections, 53-58 (footnotes omitted):

53. Just as the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say “thou shalt not” to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills. How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points? This is a case of exclusion. Can we continue to stand by when food is thrown away while people are starving? This is a case of inequality. Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape.

Human beings are themselves considered consumer goods to be used and then discarded. We have created a “throw away” culture which is now spreading. It is no longer simply about exploitation and oppression, but something new. Exclusion ultimately has to do with what it means to be a part of the society in which we live; those excluded are no longer society’s underside or its fringes or its disenfranchised – they are no longer even a part of it. The excluded are not the “exploited” but the outcast, the “leftovers”.

54. In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase. In the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.

55. One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person! We have created new idols. The worship of the ancient golden calf (cf. Ex 32:1-35) has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings; man is reduced to one of his needs alone: consumption.

56. While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.

57. Behind this attitude lurks a rejection of ethics and a rejection of God. Ethics has come to be viewed with a certain scornful derision. It is seen as counterproductive, too human, because it makes money and power relative. It is felt to be a threat, since it condemns the manipulation and debasement of the person. In effect, ethics leads to a God who calls for a committed response which is outside the categories of the marketplace. When these latter are absolutized, God can only be seen as uncontrollable, unmanageable, even dangerous, since he calls human beings to their full realization and to freedom from all forms of enslavement. Ethics – a non-ideological ethics – would make it possible to bring about balance and a more humane social order. With this in mind, I encourage financial experts and political leaders to ponder the words of one of the sages of antiquity: “Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs”.

58. A financial reform open to such ethical considerations would require a vigorous change of approach on the part of political leaders. I urge them to face this challenge with determination and an eye to the future, while not ignoring, of course, the specifics of each case. Money must serve, not rule! The Pope loves everyone, rich and poor alike, but he is obliged in the name of Christ to remind all that the rich must help, respect and promote the poor. I exhort you to generous solidarity and to the return of economics and finance to an ethical approach which favours human beings.


Nowhere in the document does he mention specific policies to counter these problems. He doesn't call for increased taxation of the rich. (The word "tax" occurs only once in the document, in a passage that criticizes tax evasion and corruption.) He doesn't sing the praises of collectivism. He doesn't attack the principle of private property, nor does he advocate public ownership of the means of production.

It's worth noting that this pope has a long track record of opposing liberation theologans in his homeland of Argentina. Still, I guess it's theoretically possible that the pope really is a closet Maoist. After all, he does say (in one of my favorite passages): "I prefer a Church which is bruised, hurting, and dirty because it has been out on the streets, rather than a Church which is unhealthy from being confined and clinging to its own security."

That's pretty subversive stuff. But the point here is that he doesn't actually offer up specific policy proposals to cure the problems he's describing. That's because he's analyzing a spiritual crisis. He's not outlining programs. He's describing a malaise that he sees in the world and challenging us to fix it.

He's exhorting us (a pronoun that expressly includes politicians and world leaders) to look closely at our own behavior and its consequences. That's why his text is an "exhortation," a rumination on issues of justice and charity, not a white paper from some Washington think tank. Francis is inspired by the radical message of Jesus: "Whoever has two cloaks should share with the person who has none. And whoever has food should do likewise." (Luke 3:11)
. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #1
That was good. The tides they are a changing. Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #2
Rope-a-dope pope. Kurovski Dec 2013 #3
Wow. Good catch. Maybe getting that Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #10
I thought he was an Aussie. geardaddy Dec 2013 #40
Jon Stewart is American. Kurovski Dec 2013 #41
Oops, I meant Varney geardaddy Dec 2013 #42
He'd have been the better human being in the clan, rest his soul. Kurovski Dec 2013 #45
He grew up in New Jersey pam4water Dec 2013 #55
Not Stewart geardaddy Dec 2013 #60
Hello stranger. myrna minx Dec 2013 #92
What?! Kurovski Dec 2013 #111
It sounded like tables being turned over upi402 Dec 2013 #4
Let's all be like Jesus! freshwest Dec 2013 #73
Perfect Release The Hounds Dec 2013 #97
lol ctsnowman Dec 2013 #105
Of course the money changers figured out a long time ago, that... Larry Ogg Dec 2013 #113
! Kurovski Dec 2013 #115
If there was ever a Pope..... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #5
I like this shmiley Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #12
This is always so embarrassing..... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #13
I'm awake in the middle of the night here.. funny to get a response. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #15
Well, just great! DeSwiss Dec 2013 #18
Well there is one major "flaw" with this CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #26
I'm not so sure its a myth..... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #31
I left the computer for a few hours and only saw this now.. just so you know Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #30
There's some other flaws jeff47 Dec 2013 #37
Actually 2naSalit Dec 2013 #81
competition Locrian Dec 2013 #120
That's Some of the Best Work I've Seen JS Do cer7711 Dec 2013 #6
I'd say the entire episode was Emmy worthy. Even including the interview, Kurovski Dec 2013 #43
Yeah this episode was truly awesome. painesghost Dec 2013 #88
I have to wonder JackInGreen Dec 2013 #7
They'd get their servants to sweep it up and sell it to a coal fired power plant. MADem Dec 2013 #17
FOX "News" is a National Joke. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #8
Well yeah, it would be a joke if so many didn't take it so seriously... bluesbassman Dec 2013 #52
There really aren't that many.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #67
More like a national disgrace. Why does no one picket, demonstrate against, occupy, these abusers? freshwest Dec 2013 #77
Same reason Occupy couldn't protest in front of the Stock Exchange. It's all private property. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #82
Well kinda. The sidewalks aren't private property. No one seems to protest these guys and freshwest Dec 2013 #85
That is pure awesomeness Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #9
So is that sig line of yours... freshwest Dec 2013 #108
jon stewart is a boon to humankind Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #11
Jon. Brilliant. Again. Scuba Dec 2013 #14
Jon and his creative team, yes. Kurovski Dec 2013 #44
Shared. Every supply-sider idiot needs to watch this. HughBeaumont Dec 2013 #16
I think that their focus is simply on a global scale. stillwaiting Dec 2013 #23
You got it. freshwest Jan 2014 #124
Fantastic! Delphinus Dec 2013 #19
du rec. xchrom Dec 2013 #20
Love it! Love it! Love it! I hope the network doesn't try to force him to apologize. mucifer Dec 2013 #21
That's so good I'm going to watch it again. LWolf Dec 2013 #22
Trivia: Every time Stuart Varney is on a TV screen at all in any capacity NuclearDem Dec 2013 #24
Wow. Just...wow. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #25
Fell down in my kitchen laughing at this last night! bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #27
stuart varney...what a fucking prick. heartless prick spanone Dec 2013 #28
I'm convinced Varney believes what he says. AAO Dec 2013 #69
It could be that before their first day at fox.. Cha Dec 2013 #87
it's hard to fathom how heartless these bastards are. spanone Dec 2013 #96
don't forget the lobotomy. nt TeamPooka Dec 2013 #112
Of course! Cha Dec 2013 #114
Thank you, and Jon Stewart. Conservatives are clearly proud of being evil, murderous, greedy scum. Zorra Dec 2013 #29
Jon was in great form last night Gothmog Dec 2013 #32
knr Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #33
That was hilarious! TxDemChem Dec 2013 #34
LMFAO perfect. n/t L0oniX Dec 2013 #35
I note Stewart doesn't want to relegate the Pope to the religion group. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #36
K&R... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #38
Wasn't there a vampire named Varney? Rozlee Dec 2013 #39
The only other Varney I know of is Jim Varney Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #117
Ah yes, Jim Varney. Rozlee Dec 2013 #118
Loved this! I had to interrupt my laughing out loud to explain to mr z who jamie dimon is me b zola Dec 2013 #46
I will forever remember Dimon as the dog who barked "Everyone should always pay their mortgage" Kurovski Dec 2013 #47
I'll never forget the slavering awe and respect many congressmen accorded maddiemom Dec 2013 #56
Not only that rufus dog Dec 2013 #66
Obviously it's someone whom financial reporters would felate... hootinholler Dec 2013 #65
Huge K&R, this is GENIOUS. n/t Whisp Dec 2013 #48
That Was Awesome colsohlibgal Dec 2013 #49
LMFAO!! docgee Dec 2013 #50
Does that dick taste expensive... JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #51
Brilliantly crude! polichick Dec 2013 #53
Priceless! Again. Stewart and his writers nailed it. maddiemom Dec 2013 #54
I laughed so hard when I heard that. pam4water Dec 2013 #57
That was fricken bpositive Dec 2013 #58
Epic! 2Legit Dec 2013 #59
That was amazing! NC_Nurse Dec 2013 #61
Has anyone here actually read the EVANGELII GAUDIUM? joshcryer Dec 2013 #62
I have read it. Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #89
Yeah, but, it starts off with stuff like: joshcryer Dec 2013 #90
I still think you are misreading it Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #94
204 has nothing to do with capitalism, though, it's automation. joshcryer Dec 2013 #95
It has everything to do with capitalism and nothing to do with automation Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #100
There's no assumption of goodness... joshcryer Dec 2013 #102
"corporate fascism is the greatest threat we face now" Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #103
I consider the Catholic Church a corporation in and of itself. joshcryer Dec 2013 #104
" I'm sure at this point you are no longer interested in a conversation." Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #106
It's not the exact opposite though. joshcryer Dec 2013 #107
Thank you for making me aware. I'm taking time to absorb, and plan to maddiemom Dec 2013 #123
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #63
If this was spontaneous... Moral Compass Dec 2013 #64
not sure why people think Varney is Aussie Skittles Dec 2013 #68
Then he's exactly what he sounds like Moral Compass Dec 2013 #70
actually, I've always thought an Aussie accent sounds like a mixture of Brit and American Skittles Dec 2013 #71
SCREAMING with laughter. I haven't laughed that much all year. Thanks! freshwest Dec 2013 #72
Kudlow and Varney... Moostache Dec 2013 #74
Kudlow rambles on about what a hot little Catholic he is and how he "adores" the pope. Kurovski Dec 2013 #86
There shouldn't only be a higher minimum wage, RoccoR5955 Dec 2013 #75
The line in the OP was stolen from Kathy Griffin spooky3 Dec 2013 #76
I think the line is even older than that. Kurovski Dec 2013 #84
It's a common response to hecklers in the comedy biz, and has been for 40 years or more alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #98
If you read my post, you saw that I acknowledged that KG may have stolen it from someone else. spooky3 Dec 2013 #109
It's in public domain. Like Shakespeare! Kurovski Dec 2013 #116
Bravo, Jon Stewart! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #78
Bang! dchill Dec 2013 #79
Damn, I needed that !!! russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #80
Infallability SUX when you disagree with it, don't it? Volaris Dec 2013 #83
That was great. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #91
Thank for this link Rufus Dog! mdbl Dec 2013 #93
Omg! lol! JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #99
Excellent!!!! Owl Dec 2013 #101
Holy fuck that was funny. blackspade Dec 2013 #110
"I go to church to save my soul" Stuart Varney arely staircase Dec 2013 #119
I hope Stewart Varney sees that..... AsahinaKimi Dec 2013 #121
This keeps popping back up, and LWolf Dec 2013 #122
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