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In reply to the discussion: Obama Administration APPROVES Keystone XL Key Infrastructure Component. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)89. I remember it. The one that flooded a neighborhood in Arkansas:
6 Things You Need to Know About the Arkansas Oil Spill
***SNIP
1. Not Your Average Crude
InsideClimate News reported shortly after the spill that an Exxon official confirmed the pipeline was "transporting a heavy form of crude from the Canadian tar sands region." Specifically, it has been identified as Wabasca Heavy, Lisa Song writes, "which is a type of diluted bitumen, or dilbit, from Alberta's tar sands region" although you won't hear any Exxon folks calling it tar sands.
***SNIP
2. Not Your Average Pipeline
The Pegasus pipeline running more than 850 miles between Patoka, Illinois and Nederland, Texas, is 20 inches in diameter and was built in the 1940s to carry crude from Texas to Illinois. But in 2006 the flow was reversed in order to carry Canadian tar sands to Texas. As Ben Jervey wrote for DeSmog blog, the flow was reversed to "help relieve the tar sands crude bottleneck in Cushing, Oklahoma. (The same reason given by proponents for the construction of Keystone XL.)"
***SNIP
3. Tax Exempt?
Who's footing the bill for the cleanup? The government has an Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund that companies which transport oil must pay into. But, as it turns out, the bitumen that Exxon was transporting in its pipeline isn't oil by government standards. Erin O'Sullivan writes for Oil Change International:
In a January 2011 memorandum, the IRS determined that to generate revenues for the oil spill trust fund, Congress only intended to tax conventional crude, and not tar sands or other unconventional oils. This exemption remains to this day, even though the United States moves billions of gallons of tar sands crude through its pipeline system every year. The trust fund is liable for tar sands oil spill cleanups without collecting any revenue from tar sands transport. If the fund goes broke, the American taxpayer foots the cleanup bill.
http://www.alternet.org/environment/6-things-you-need-know-about-arkansas-oil-spill
to xchrom:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022612650
One of the claims made at the time of the spill was that the Keystone pipeline was to replace this one which is 30 years old and likely to leak. It's been going through for longer than some think.
***SNIP
1. Not Your Average Crude
InsideClimate News reported shortly after the spill that an Exxon official confirmed the pipeline was "transporting a heavy form of crude from the Canadian tar sands region." Specifically, it has been identified as Wabasca Heavy, Lisa Song writes, "which is a type of diluted bitumen, or dilbit, from Alberta's tar sands region" although you won't hear any Exxon folks calling it tar sands.
***SNIP
2. Not Your Average Pipeline
The Pegasus pipeline running more than 850 miles between Patoka, Illinois and Nederland, Texas, is 20 inches in diameter and was built in the 1940s to carry crude from Texas to Illinois. But in 2006 the flow was reversed in order to carry Canadian tar sands to Texas. As Ben Jervey wrote for DeSmog blog, the flow was reversed to "help relieve the tar sands crude bottleneck in Cushing, Oklahoma. (The same reason given by proponents for the construction of Keystone XL.)"
***SNIP
3. Tax Exempt?
Who's footing the bill for the cleanup? The government has an Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund that companies which transport oil must pay into. But, as it turns out, the bitumen that Exxon was transporting in its pipeline isn't oil by government standards. Erin O'Sullivan writes for Oil Change International:
In a January 2011 memorandum, the IRS determined that to generate revenues for the oil spill trust fund, Congress only intended to tax conventional crude, and not tar sands or other unconventional oils. This exemption remains to this day, even though the United States moves billions of gallons of tar sands crude through its pipeline system every year. The trust fund is liable for tar sands oil spill cleanups without collecting any revenue from tar sands transport. If the fund goes broke, the American taxpayer foots the cleanup bill.
http://www.alternet.org/environment/6-things-you-need-know-about-arkansas-oil-spill
to xchrom:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022612650
One of the claims made at the time of the spill was that the Keystone pipeline was to replace this one which is 30 years old and likely to leak. It's been going through for longer than some think.
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Obama Administration APPROVES Keystone XL Key Infrastructure Component. [View all]
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
OP
Maybe they think their kids/grand kids will be immune to the destruction or maybe they have an
SammyWinstonJack
Nov 2013
#33
There are two pipelines... one to send the millions of barrels of diluter, the second to send dilbit
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#6
Why don't you take the time to click on the provided links within the article? n/t
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#7
As a business executive who sees this tactic played out all the time... It will prove itself.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#46
So, what you're saying is, you can't prove it. You made it up. Got it.
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2013
#68
It's approved. The proof is the deafening silence from the interested corporations and MSM.
GoneFishin
Nov 2013
#36
Um...KXL hasn't been approved. A bit reflexive aren't we? I mean, you took a post from a 500 post
msanthrope
Nov 2013
#20
More empty snark. More vapid namecalling for those who talk about issues
woo me with science
Nov 2013
#27
What's the 'sweaters' thread? If it causes that one so much heartburn, I gotta see it!
Number23
Nov 2013
#85
Don't tell me that Obama wore a sweater in the Oval Office or something like that!
NYC_SKP
Nov 2013
#88
I'd face palm but anyone surprised by that person's reaction to such an innocent OP
Number23
Nov 2013
#107
It's now funny---sad, too, but pretty funny. I'm hoping Hillary Clinton runs just to liven up the
msanthrope
Nov 2013
#108
so.. your evidence that it has been approved is that there is NO evidence?
scheming daemons
Nov 2013
#92
My point is that every week there is a new THING that will destroy Obama's legacy.
JoePhilly
Nov 2013
#43
Why, why, why doesn't he just do it already? The suspense is killing me! But about that oil...
freshwest
Nov 2013
#99
Now we need an open Flag list, after the vote transpires, to see who chronically flags posts.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#69
As someone in business who sees this tactic played out all of the time...
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#50
No, the headline is to wake you up to the prospect that the final decision was made...
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#55
You claim '...there are NO other pipelines on the books besides KXL... What is Canada doing then?'
freshwest
Nov 2013
#96
The links within the article seem legit. Even FOX is right from time to time.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2013
#64
Gee, who woulda' ever thunk a Democratic president would approve such a titanic
indepat
Nov 2013
#71
We are NEVER going to have a say in anything or be represented UNTIL this corporate coup is stopped.
mother earth
Nov 2013
#84