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In reply to the discussion: JFK Conference: James DiEugenio made clear how Foreign Policy changed after November 22, 1963 [View all]JimboBillyBubbaBob
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JFK Conference: James DiEugenio made clear how Foreign Policy changed after November 22, 1963 [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2013
OP
DiEugenio is one of the most interesting guys out there still working this subject,
stranger81
Nov 2013
#1
He brought up Edmund GULLION, US diplomat whom JFK counseled in Vietnam in 1951...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#2
Thanks for the corrective to the magical, naive thinking being espoused in the OP.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#7
Kennedy increased the number of Americans in Vietnam from under a thousand to 16,000.
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#276
And you know this, how?? Were you a friend of JFK, there during his administration?
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#48
I'm going to say this again: I'm interested in discussing JFK's assassination.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#45
Sad that so many DUers act as apologists for Oswald, the bastard that killed JFK.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#212
You acccused me of sympathizing with the killer of JFK. Either retract that or prove it. I have
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#235
If you're saying that Oswald was the killer of JFK, then sure, I'll retract it and apologize.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#236
You made an egregious accusation. There are no 'conditions' under which an apology
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#237
It's an interesting take on the Cuban Missile Crisis that JFK's real opponents were Americans.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#44
Audio tape: LBJ urged taking "every step that we can" to support overthrow of Joao Goulart
Octafish
Nov 2013
#158
You must have missed the OP about the change in foreign policy between administrations.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#179
"The record" shows that there wasn't much change between DDE's foreign policy and JFK's FP.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#180
"little evidence that JFK would have pulled American troops out of Vietnam"
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#165
Our man Diem: How America Came To Back South Vietnam's Despised And Doomed President (by Seth Jacobs
bobthedrummer
Nov 2013
#144
Bolo Points Out That Forrestal Is Not Bundy Which Jim Appears To Be Confused About
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#254
But, wait! You didn't tell us the name of the university you mentor doctoral candidates for!
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#270
It bothers me that DiEugenio never managed to mention the university he works for.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#277
DiEugenio said Kennedy was attacked bitterly in Washington for siding with democracy in Congo...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#18
The French had been kicked out of Vietnam for nine years when Diem was killed
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2013
#108
"What does that have to do with the French colonialists?" Nothing, of course
YoungDemCA
Nov 2013
#110
I'm sorry. I assumed readers had a basic understanding of the history of Vietnam.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#164
Only ridiculous if you value supporting Diem, whose power came from corrupt colonialist money.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#170
Diem was a brutal tyrant supported by the US, including Kennedy, until he became inconvenient
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2013
#172
Translation: here's a bunch of evidence-bereft CT books I've read before writing my own
stopbush
Nov 2013
#25
In the past, I've spent (wasted?) plenty of time showing you where you are wrong.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#92
Your problem is that you give way too much credence to little tidbits of opinion
stopbush
Nov 2013
#142
Have you even read Bugliosi? Be honest, because I don't see how you would make such a statement
stopbush
Nov 2013
#143
No, I haven't read his book. The great DUer H20 Man did and wrote interesting things about it.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#146
DiEugenio blasted Bill O'Reilly and his Nixon-stained GOP boss, Roger Ailes...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#22
David Talbot called Dulles, ''the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination.''
Octafish
Nov 2013
#191
That is a great question. What is this poster implying? The Conserva-Dems have been
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#49
DiEugenio has written about the Right killing off the JFK Legacy (New Frontier), too...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#34
Re E. Howard Hunt's forged diplomatic cables tying Kennedy to the Diem assassination:
Mc Mike
Nov 2013
#73
That doesn't change the indisputable fact that Kennedy let the coup happen.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#88
Actually, yes. What JFK wanted was different than what Pentagon, State and CIA delivered.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#135
"dozens of right wing gun nuts turned out to a restaurant in Dallas" - wasn't that incredible?
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#209
I'd say we agree on a lot of good Democratic issues, if not the one brought up by the o.p.
Mc Mike
Nov 2013
#239
"seriously deficient historically" - feel free to back that up any time now.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#60
Chomsky: "Changes of Administration, including the Kennedy assassination, had no large-scale effect
ucrdem
Nov 2013
#61
Wow, a nation on a criminal path since November 22, 1963, and since the Gulf of Tonkin, a series of
indepat
Nov 2013
#33
You are right. I deleted my post. I just find that the obsession to lock or hide posts to
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#75
Oh I see it. It's the conservatives that want to believe that Oswald acted alone.
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#106
IMO those that are open-minded and willing to listen to different views are usually liberals.
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#136
There is nothing liberal or conservative about thinking Oswald acted alone.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#113
Not what I said at all. I said conservatives want to believe that Oswald acted alone.
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#139
Most Democrats I know are furious the perpetrators have not been brought to justice.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#156
The perpetrator (singular) in the JFK case was Oswald. Case closed. The evidence is overwhelming.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#176
I'm not claiming there were "not conspiracies in any of the assassinations." Just in JFK's case.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#175
Everyone should read "JFK and the Unspeakable" by Jim Douglass to clear up the Cold Warrior thing.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#81
Warren Commission Member John J. McCloy certainly helped to change/shape policies pre/post 11-23-63.
bobthedrummer
Nov 2013
#86
Some of US will never forget that simple fact, will we, despite what the perception managers peddle.
bobthedrummer
Nov 2013
#188
Did Sabato say anything about his study that showed the Dictabelt evidence is useless?
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#215
''Stop hijacking your own freaking OP to discuss me and get back to the topic.''
Octafish
Nov 2013
#226