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In reply to the discussion: Can someone ring up the Germans, and [View all]joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Your problem is that I am in agreement with you but you don't like my characterizing this as standard operation procedure for states. Oh, far be it for me to point out states aren't pure as the driven snow! That's not a damn justification for what they do, it's recognizing that they aren't going to do the right thing, for their own interests.
The fact that Merkel is giving information on German citizens to the NSA is the most fucked up part of it if you ask me, she has no right to be upset when it backfires. If we were honest with ourselves we'd come out and say "hey we spy on people, sorry, but it's gotta be done." But no, we pretend like we have no interest in it!
I mean shit when fucking Putin of all people, former KGB, is trashing spying you know you're living in an Orwellian world where people say one thing and do another. When Russia openly admits that every phone will be tapped at the Olympics. Every phone. Every. Phone.