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126. EmoProg Griefers, perhaps!?

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Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:55 PM

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HealthCare.gov pricing feature can be off the mark [View all] FarCenter Oct 2013 OP

I don't give a flying fuck. It's here, it's on, it's fucking going to work. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

Failure is not an option as we won't be able to delay the individual mandate for political reasons dkf Oct 2013 #11

Let me add a different scenario, in addition to the technical problems Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #20

Yes I think it's a mess but D's will have to live with it, like vets in the VA system. dkf Oct 2013 #27

Yes. We can't let this fail, and criticisms of those who are saying we need to get urgent about this Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #58

Any price quote should be honored. Even if that means the federal government covering the difference Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #2

It's not a quote; it's an estimate. FarCenter Oct 2013 #3

a quote is an estimate datasuspect Oct 2013 #19

That's ridiculous....they have to leave the "just window shopping area" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #4

No, it's just run by them. kiva Oct 2013 #6

we are talking about the website... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #7

I know, I know... kiva Oct 2013 #8

So you admit you disagree with the vast majority here....yet you continue to hang around and force VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #9

I've accepted the fact that a small but vocal minority here kiva Oct 2013 #10

Unfortunately they aren't a small minority. Vocal yes, but unfortunately not small n/t progree Oct 2013 #16

Not sure I understand what you mean... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #29

Not sure what you mean either. That makes two of us nt progree Oct 2013 #55

I make myself perfectly clear... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #59

"I don't go around griefing..." Some of us choose not to be ostriches. Some of us want to know progree Oct 2013 #68

Word salad! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #70

Is choosing not to be an ostrich "word salad" to you, Sarah? progree Oct 2013 #74

Ostrich? Hardly.....I am well informed....thank you...this is Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #76

Did I say "ACA is a complete failure", Sarah? progree Oct 2013 #80

"Off" from What? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #85

Giving a 64 year old the rate of a 50 year old is not "off" to you????????????? half the rate is progree Oct 2013 #89

Its NOT a contract!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #90

Would you say the same thing if it was a Republican admin "misunderestimating" its costs progree Oct 2013 #94

link it or its not true... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #95

The (um problematic) link is in the OP. progree Oct 2013 #112

So how did Romneycare in Massachusetts go? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #114

Its in the link I just gave you, the same link that's in the OP progree Oct 2013 #128

Seems to me the recent swarm of corporate sockbots is here to stop the general movement to the left Zorra Oct 2013 #92

I just think people should know about this problem so they aren't blindsided at the office progree Oct 2013 #98

I'm so sorry for not being clear. I agree with you 100%. Zorra Oct 2013 #115

Bravo kiva! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #21

bravo? Cheering the Griefers? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #30

Look up there on the top left....see what that says? Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #28

Urban Dictionary? enlightenment Oct 2013 #34

Yes...Urban Dictionary... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #37

Thanks. enlightenment Oct 2013 #42

Just because you do not like colorful words... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #44

I understand completely. enlightenment Oct 2013 #65

Much more than amusing... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #72

"underground" means resiatance to the prevailing paradigm, get it? villager Oct 2013 #61

DEMOCRATIC...this site supports DEMOCRATS! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #117

UNDERGROUND... this site supports critical UNDERGROUND discourse villager Oct 2013 #125

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Ummm...you looked up the wrong word... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #109

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Any time! Hey, he responded to you with an "as in griefers..." ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #111

EmoProg Griefers, perhaps!? villager Oct 2013 #126

Flower pressing. uppityperson Oct 2013 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #116

More like pushing up daisies maddezmom Oct 2013 #118

I'm looking for a NEW hobby. She seems to have that one down. uppityperson Oct 2013 #119

She sure does maddezmom Oct 2013 #123

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #127

Corarose is that you again? maddezmom Oct 2013 #129

I think that the vast majority on DU want ACA to work Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #25

Bravo Yo! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #39

you are losing your touch by the way... snooper2 Oct 2013 #41

"states the actual prices could be lower, but it makes no mention that they could be higher" progree Oct 2013 #5

The Government often gives wrong info. It falls into the "tough shit" category. dkf Oct 2013 #12

I thought the quote it gives was merely an estimate. The Corporate Media is reaching! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #13

I don't think they are reaching at all Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #14

Is that all your current Insurance company needs for an exact quote? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #31

Precisely exacty where is the "reaching"? progree Oct 2013 #15

All the Obama haters out in full force pretending to be fair minded. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #17

I'm an Obama admirer and worked very hard to get him elected. So stop lying about me. progree Oct 2013 #18

So you are saying people are too stupid to understand "average prices"? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #40

Where do you get this "average prices" thing? progree Oct 2013 #48

thats where an average price comes in....you do realize this involves HUNDREDS of plans... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #52

In most counties only a few insurance companies offer a few plans each FarCenter Oct 2013 #56

"most"? And you know this how? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #75

Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas FarCenter Oct 2013 #87

"Hundreds of plans", No, sorry, I don't think so progree Oct 2013 #71

these are averages....Do you not understand AVERAGES....and these are quotes... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #78

If these are "averages," Keefer Oct 2013 #103

Everyone KNOWS it is! What else could it be.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #120

"First you guys opposed it in general." Keefer Oct 2013 #134

Your "figures" do NOT include the tax credit...that is WHY it COULD be lower... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #136

What if... Keefer Oct 2013 #139

Yes it willl....it just told me that! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #141

??? Keefer Oct 2013 #143

It does so..."if you have an income of less than $46,000" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #144

they are not averages Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #130

Have you been there and looked at them yourself? I have... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #131

I have been there. Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #137

Baloney! that quote is WITHOUT the tax credit... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #138

so the quote is even more useless Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #142

We qualified for 110 plans, and the range was from 300 to $ 1500 a month. grantcart Oct 2013 #106

In Rochester, MN there are a whole lot of plans, but all from one and only one insurance co. progree Oct 2013 #122

By that standard single payer health care is a monopoly. grantcart Oct 2013 #132

But you leave out the tax CREDITS.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #133

I am opposed to the ACA, but this complaint is a bit silly... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #22

If this was some Republican program, and they were grossly underestimating their cost "estimates" progree Oct 2013 #23

Yes. My values are not party dependent... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #26

Of course not....But did you happen to notice the name of this joint? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #32

Fine, but I still don't get how it is a "bit silly" for the media to report on it progree Oct 2013 #36

Because it is clearly a quick and temporary insert while they get things going... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #101

That is NOT what is happening and you know it... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #33

If the contractor gave you a 1/3 to 1/2 off estimate to get their foot in the door? progree Oct 2013 #45

(drip, drip, drip,...) BKH70041 Oct 2013 #24

I doubt low income people or those with pre-existing conditions are paying more under ACA. Hoyt Oct 2013 #35

Indeed they are not -- but the majority will pay more. FarCenter Oct 2013 #38

Baloney! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #43

Taxpayers will be picking up the subidies; rates will increase due to high-cost patients in the pool FarCenter Oct 2013 #46

Again...Baloney! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #47

Assuming the "non-patients", i.e. the healthy young, sign up in sufficient numbers. We shall see. nt progree Oct 2013 #50

they will! Look how many WANT to use the site! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #53

Do you have any data that these are the young and healthy ones? I suspect, aside from the just progree Oct 2013 #62

You cannot be serious.....in fact I am sure of that! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #69

Data please, so we can all be as sure as you. progree Oct 2013 #77

More word salad from you? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #79

DU being trolled by Griefers and Confederates! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #81

No. Some people think it is a problem when healthcare.gov is estimating a 49 yo based on a 27 yo progree Oct 2013 #86

Okay Ostrich...you would rather have the current Heathcare system...duly noted. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #88

"Okay Ostrich.you would rather have the current Heathcare system...duly noted." OK Liar progree Oct 2013 #97

You apparently do! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #121

Show me anywhere I said or indicated the old system is better, or that I don't want the ACA to work. progree Oct 2013 #124

It was a simple question, I'm sorry if simple questions are "word salad" to you, Sarah n/t progree Oct 2013 #82

What was the question Michelle? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #84

The "non-patients" are the former uninsured getting the high subsidies from the taxpayers. FarCenter Oct 2013 #51

Not true....But I suppose it is much cheaper for the uninsured to just go to the emergency room VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #57

I'm willing to pay a bit more to expand coverage to 30 million. But from what I've seen so far, Hoyt Oct 2013 #54

You can identify the plans offered, and then with a little work, go to the insurer's site and get Hoyt Oct 2013 #49

No, CBS News, Obama Isn’t Hiding The True Cost Of Obamacare ProSense Oct 2013 #60

Who is ValuePenguin? Raine1967 Oct 2013 #63

A consumer finance web site. FarCenter Oct 2013 #64

Exactly. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #73

Here's the one for California FarCenter Oct 2013 #83

I clicked on the one for Virginia and I saw something peculiar Raine1967 Oct 2013 #93

They are probably connected to an insurance broker -- either own it or FarCenter Oct 2013 #100

I stumbled upon a chart somewhere that had a factor for each age year. Hoyt Oct 2013 #91

Thanks Hoyt. If you can find it, I'd truly appreciate it. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #96

See if these links don't cover it. Hoyt Oct 2013 #102

Thanks. I found out some more stuff, put it below. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #105

Because they spidered the site and built one that apparently works. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #104

Is this real or just spin? Packerowner740 Oct 2013 #66

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #67

Keep that question in mind at all times. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #135

Thanks, I will Packerowner740 Oct 2013 #145

Google Value Penguin insurance brokers Raine1967 Oct 2013 #99

The article is juvenile bullshit grantcart Oct 2013 #108

I would imagine the site gives only estimates. Autumn Oct 2013 #140