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The Wizard

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38. Democrats didn't

Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:35 AM

Oct 2013

put Ted Cruz in the Senate, but having that hateful nut in the spotlight helps Democrats raise funding. Then again maybe he's there to make other Republicans sound reasonable, kind of like Murdoch putting Beck on the air so as to make Hannity and Billo The Clown sound reasonable.

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"This is a brilliant tactical move on the president’s part. And Republicans know it." [View all] babylonsister Oct 2013 OP

I'm all for crushing the Republicans, but if this is the moment to achieve a great gain .... Scuba Oct 2013 #1

+ 1 russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #2

I agree as far as policy goes - but think the argument is more about politics el_bryanto Oct 2013 #12

I disagree. Immigration reform could be a boon for republicans if that party would embrace making bluestate10 Oct 2013 #25

But they won't. That's the point. el_bryanto Oct 2013 #28

Egg-zacktly!! BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #94

It is in their political DNA to hate the "others". They can't help it! Rectangle Oct 2013 #58

I like Pres. Obama's pivot to Immigration Reform. Give the GOP another crisis before SDjack Oct 2013 #68

I remember a story my brother-in-law told me . . . MrModerate Oct 2013 #89

g.d. kardonb Oct 2013 #83

"a boon for republicans if that party would embrace making.... lastlib Oct 2013 #71

OK, but which Republicans do YOU think will show up to this dog and pony show? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #93

No, they want cheap labor, sorry. Tactic is just another sell out. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #85

OK. Who is they in this context? nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #87

The corporatists and the Republicans. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #90

ding Doctor_J Oct 2013 #91

with the 2014 elections coming up, this is the moment to take back the house magical thyme Oct 2013 #19

Obama has no intention to tax the wealthy, regardless of his previous campaign rhetoric loudsue Oct 2013 #33

No I am not. That is *exactly* why I said we need to push our representatives magical thyme Oct 2013 #43

You are more than touchy loudsue Oct 2013 #46

Glad to see another who's figured this out. Thanks. Scuba Oct 2013 #59

If the party has been infiltrated by karadax Oct 2013 #100

If a Democratic Congress offers Mr. Obama a bill to raise taxes on the wealthy, he would sign it Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #44

Thank you, Iconoklast! Can't wait. Cha Oct 2013 #51

RIGHT Cosmocat Oct 2013 #99

The president won the first tax increase on the wealthy in more than 20 years. cheapdate Oct 2013 #75

I think you are wrong on this point. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #77

Saddly you are correct. StoneCarver Oct 2013 #79

Very good point! CTyankee Oct 2013 #64

Those would never happen, and they'd feel safer rejecting them. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #20

Repubs would feel safer rejecting SS than rejecting immigration? You don't know their base. Scuba Oct 2013 #41

Everyone is in favor of what they call 'strengthening Social Security" geek tragedy Oct 2013 #45

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #39

+1 Rain Mcloud Oct 2013 #40

Making illegal immigrants legal could help SS. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #55

+1 dependingon what you mean by "strengthening Social Security." JDPriestly Oct 2013 #61

Lift the cap, tax capital gains, increase COLA, lower eligibility age. Scuba Oct 2013 #63

Agreed! JDPriestly Oct 2013 #80

If we get out and win seats blue14u Oct 2013 #73

100%. Immigration is not the battle - the hoarders want cheap labor. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #84

agreed. he's diverting public attention from that.... tomp Oct 2013 #97

He's Just Handing Them Rope... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #3

That phrase has been uttered so many times these past few years DireStrike Oct 2013 #16

It's all incremental and strategic.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #22

Exactly, well said Skraxx Oct 2013 #34

Yeah, they'd rather do it their way.. I'm thinking Cha Oct 2013 #52

Thanks Cha.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #60

We had great instincts, VR and so does Cha Oct 2013 #65

Emotionally immature people don't understand that. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #70

This was about saving the economy. The Republicans are destroying themselves, no Obama needed. Coyotl Oct 2013 #4

actually no.... Abukhatar Oct 2013 #62

They created their own trap. It was their idea to try to torpedo the economy. Coyotl Oct 2013 #78

"…to try to destroy the Republican Party…" regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #5

Seriously. All he's doing is telling them to proceed! eom Maeve Oct 2013 #7

Hey Raul warrior1 Oct 2013 #6

They are still in denial about what's really going on. LisaLynne Oct 2013 #8

^^^^ Yes.... sendero Oct 2013 #10

Unfathomable to them -- exactly! LisaLynne Oct 2013 #11

They are being told 24/7 by right wing media that Obama IS trying to destroy them. Vinnie From Indy Oct 2013 #24

Classic Projection M.G. Oct 2013 #31

Oh yeah.. as in Totally. nm Cha Oct 2013 #53

You know, I didn't want to say it out loud, because I didn't want to jinx him, but... Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #9

His deliberative thinking in the face of pressure is truly impressive. randome Oct 2013 #13

Yeah, we have to qualify that we don't "hero worship" but Cha Oct 2013 #57

If done right, the Trans Pacific trade deal can be a huge boon for Americans, if done wrong, it bluestate10 Oct 2013 #17

He Says 'Try To Destroy The Republican Party', Ma'am, Like That Were A Bad Thing.... The Magistrate Oct 2013 #14

Oh, hell to the yes! libodem Oct 2013 #18

Which Republican party is he referring to? Zambero Oct 2013 #30

Be careful of what you wish for. Delmette Oct 2013 #36

THANK YOU!! nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #42

+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #56

The President should take Labrador's words, dissect them then clearly explain why Labrador is wrong, bluestate10 Oct 2013 #15

POTUS has to clear the obstruction. LuvLoogie Oct 2013 #21

Raul Labrador is a worthless publicity seeking stuffed shirt Zambero Oct 2013 #26

"he’s trying to destroy the Republican Party."--This from the party that declared its sole mission Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #23

When Do We Begin Saturation Bombing Republicans? mckara Oct 2013 #27

I hear salt works well on slugs. randome Oct 2013 #29

You give slugs a bad name! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2013 #35

The best one-word description of Barack Obama notgoinback Oct 2013 #32

"Style" and "Class" work as well! randome Oct 2013 #37

Democrats didn't The Wizard Oct 2013 #38

This thread and all the replies are great! K&R everyone here! freshwest Oct 2013 #47

Huzzah! BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #48

i don't even get what this guy is saying barbtries Oct 2013 #49

And, the "far right" is so angry with Pres Obama and the Fed Gov because Cha Oct 2013 #50

I hope President O has a good weekend relax. Next week Rs better be ready to WORK! Sunlei Oct 2013 #54

Defeating the Republicans on the shutdown/debt ceiling Maedhros Oct 2013 #66

If not that, a baseball bat across the kneecaps will do! randome Oct 2013 #74

The important thing is that decent policies are enacted. Maedhros Oct 2013 #76

Hey way a minute we're the only ones who are supposed to destroy the other party, the President is Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #67

K&R n/t Dalai_1 Oct 2013 #69

The day the right lost the economic argument ProSense Oct 2013 #72

If this is the case this is the right time to do this, choke the SNOT out of the current GOP culture uponit7771 Oct 2013 #81

I truly believe such blind hatred can only lead to loss TxDemChem Oct 2013 #82

No, they want cheap labor, sorry. Tactic is just another sell out. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #86

To any reasonable person, Obama is offering a shot at redemption. mattclearing Oct 2013 #88

Quite possibly the most brilliant president we ever had! LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #92

Over and over polynomial Oct 2013 #95

Great quote. nt tsuki Oct 2013 #96

This statement is ludicrous mdbl Oct 2013 #98