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LeftishBrit

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20. He was a conservative aristocrat who had an ambivalent attitude to democracy

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:23 PM

Oct 2013

He was very flawed; but, with all his flaws, he carried out the the vital task of defeating Hitler.

But I am not sure that we should be taking his attitude to those whom he would have called the 'common people'.

Though did in the end conclude that 'democracy is the worst possible system of government - except for all the others'.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 OP

...a piece of shit war criminal, perhaps? n/t Cal Carpenter Oct 2013 #1

Winston Churchill? I know he was anti Communist, but didn't know he was a war criminal. nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #3

No leaders during that war came out with anything vaguely resembling clean hands. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #9

just so we are clear you consider FDR a war criminal, correct? grantcart Oct 2013 #19

I see what you're trying to do there, but by contemporary standards? Sure. Posteritatis Oct 2013 #24

The only thing I am trying to do is see if you consider FDR a war criminal. grantcart Oct 2013 #25

Just for the record... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #29

Painter! Racist! PETRUS Oct 2013 #33

Here's one vote... catnhatnh Oct 2013 #2

one might argue the man saved western civilization nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #4

One might also argue that hyperbole is worse than a billion root canals (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #11

Kilt the nazis, himself 'e did, right with his bare 'ands! DireStrike Oct 2013 #12

correction: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #13

Thanks! My god that post of mine was atrocious. DireStrike Oct 2013 #14

'ho ya think that bloak was... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #15

Choose "pass." Igel Oct 2013 #5

Apparently... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #8

Yep. Spend 5 minutes talking with a republican voter, and it becomes obvious that we need to Zorra Oct 2013 #6

On some issues it takes less time than 5 minutes. gordianot Oct 2013 #7

From a rhetorical standpoint, yeah DireStrike Oct 2013 #10

I view government as... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #23

I'll pass on this ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #16

In a vote where heads are only counted... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #18

An interestng book... rrneck Oct 2013 #17

I suppose that's why we vote discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #21

He was a conservative aristocrat who had an ambivalent attitude to democracy LeftishBrit Oct 2013 #20

OTOH... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #22

I wish you would have found a quote from a liberal LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #26

A great FDR quote just for you: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #27

Thank you! LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #28

Winston would have preferred a government by a self-selected elite pampango Oct 2013 #30

While I agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #31

He had some other comments about democracy. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #32

Some rather useful observations. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #34