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ismnotwasm

(42,068 posts)
16. I'll pass on this
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Oct 2013

And give my current opinion with a qualifier;


In a country that is, for the greater part, fed, clothed and sheltered, in a country where war has not reached its boarders; or has been generally victorious in war; in a country where the most poverty is a sub-culture and therefore invisible for all intents and purposes, in a country where personal pleasure is considered before activism for "a good cause", if indeed activism is considered at all, or just left for clergy, in a country where political discussion happens on bars stools and gyms; in a country where racism is denied and sexism is the standard; in a country where politics are easily polarized and people vote against their own interests because of ignorance and prejudice

Well, in country with all that going on, I still say he's a pessimist.

...a piece of shit war criminal, perhaps? n/t Cal Carpenter Oct 2013 #1
Winston Churchill? I know he was anti Communist, but didn't know he was a war criminal. nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #3
No leaders during that war came out with anything vaguely resembling clean hands. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #9
just so we are clear you consider FDR a war criminal, correct? grantcart Oct 2013 #19
I see what you're trying to do there, but by contemporary standards? Sure. Posteritatis Oct 2013 #24
The only thing I am trying to do is see if you consider FDR a war criminal. grantcart Oct 2013 #25
Just for the record... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #29
Painter! Racist! PETRUS Oct 2013 #33
Here's one vote... catnhatnh Oct 2013 #2
one might argue the man saved western civilization nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #4
One might also argue that hyperbole is worse than a billion root canals (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #11
Kilt the nazis, himself 'e did, right with his bare 'ands! DireStrike Oct 2013 #12
correction: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #13
Thanks! My god that post of mine was atrocious. DireStrike Oct 2013 #14
'ho ya think that bloak was... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #15
Choose "pass." Igel Oct 2013 #5
Apparently... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #8
Yep. Spend 5 minutes talking with a republican voter, and it becomes obvious that we need to Zorra Oct 2013 #6
On some issues it takes less time than 5 minutes. gordianot Oct 2013 #7
From a rhetorical standpoint, yeah DireStrike Oct 2013 #10
I view government as... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #23
I'll pass on this ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #16
In a vote where heads are only counted... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #18
An interestng book... rrneck Oct 2013 #17
I suppose that's why we vote discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #21
He was a conservative aristocrat who had an ambivalent attitude to democracy LeftishBrit Oct 2013 #20
OTOH... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #22
I wish you would have found a quote from a liberal LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #26
A great FDR quote just for you: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #27
Thank you! LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #28
Winston would have preferred a government by a self-selected elite pampango Oct 2013 #30
While I agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #31
He had some other comments about democracy. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #32
Some rather useful observations. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #34
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