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WilliamPitt

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105. We're talking in circles, Pro.

Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:25 PM

Sep 2013

Twice now I've explained why giving cover to idiots like these assures cover for other citizen journalists. You take the bad with the good, and wind up with waaaaaaaaay more good than bad.

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Was Jeff Gannon a journalist? [View all] ProSense Sep 2013 OP

no he was an asshat gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1

Gannon was an embodiment of Republicon Family Values Berlum Sep 2013 #16

I remember that dude. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #2

Takes me back to a simpler time on D/U. sarcasmo Sep 2013 #3

ain't that the truth... madrchsod Sep 2013 #143

I sense this is a loaded question, and you're going to ask the No voters "well then, what about..." Electric Monk Sep 2013 #4

He looks like a journalist edbermac Sep 2013 #5

Just because he was issued one-day press passes for nearly two years Brother Buzz Sep 2013 #6

He had a column in the Blade Recursion Sep 2013 #7

Just goes to show anyone can call themselves a journalist. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #8

He was a tool, but he most assuredly had White House press credentials. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #9

Yes.... Iggo Sep 2013 #10

He was servicing Rove. xfundy Sep 2013 #11

I always thought that libodem Sep 2013 #32

Nah, my money's on Dubya,with his bald head fetish Lars39 Sep 2013 #146

tou·ché - . (in fencing) used as an acknowledgment of a hit by one's opponent. Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #12

I don't know yet, Feinstein hasn't replied to my email. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #13

definitely not reddread Sep 2013 #14

Excellent point! randome Sep 2013 #15

He was a GOP plant... Octafish Sep 2013 #17

I think it was determined he was a call boy madokie Sep 2013 #18

Well, obviously he can't be a journalist if we don't approve of him politically. DUH! Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #19

Huh? How do 'human and legal considerations' come into this? randome Sep 2013 #28

A press pass is not a device for consitutional blessing. It's for WH security. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #31

What would the sheild law do to change Gannon's status, declared by the WH as it was? Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #20

Thank you. What an incredibly slimy and manipulative OP. woo me with science Sep 2013 #22

"Whatever anyone's opinion of Gannon" What's your opinion? ProSense Sep 2013 #25

No less so than Chuck Todd but then again Todd gets paid so I guess that makes all the difference? Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #40

I agree. Slimy, manipulative, and downright creepy. A new low. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #136

You comment is bizarre. ProSense Sep 2013 #137

"Slimy" Puglover Sep 2013 #36

As usual. /nt Marr Sep 2013 #43

Exactly. That is why allowing government to define journalist is bullshit. Luminous Animal Sep 2013 #23

Is Kos a journalist? ProSense Sep 2013 #24

Yep, I was right. Nailed it with post #4, above. Probably thought you were so cute, didn't you? nt Electric Monk Sep 2013 #51

My first and primary question was 'what's this got to do with the sheild law' and you did your Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #128

No. The fact that he was paid to portray one doesn't make him any more of a journalist Tanuki Sep 2013 #21

yes Enrique Sep 2013 #26

He was a sleepover@White House shaved hardbody GOP blogger with terrible taste in men leveymg Sep 2013 #27

Misanthropic Sycophant Monster orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #30

You should take a shower and get a blood test if you got close enough to know that about Jimmy Jeff leveymg Sep 2013 #39

Is he a freind to Kkkarl ? He's an enemy to all !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #72

Torquemada's toy boy, Kkkarls kid, new repugadet . * . * orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #29

At times he appeared to be a propagandist, but he worked in the field of journalism Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #33

The bill, ProSense Sep 2013 #35

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #34

Clearly, ProSense Sep 2013 #37

all the same thing, press/people/assembly/petitioning/religious freedom reddread Sep 2013 #38

We should keep the name and the story alive. Jeff Gannon - GOP's favorite male prostitute. JEFF9K Sep 2013 #41

I googled him PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #42

Yes. He was a crappy journalist, but he was a journalist. Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #44

The bill ProSense Sep 2013 #46

In today's world I think anyone can be the press. Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #48

"the first amendment was written in a very broad manner" ProSense Sep 2013 #49

I think Spandan is a shitty blogger who should be rejected by all sane people Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #52

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #54

I generally prefer to call him a douchebag Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #60

So any blogger is "the press" in your opinion? DJ13 Sep 2013 #55

So I'm "the press"? ProSense Sep 2013 #58

Yes. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #62

You can be, yes DJ13 Sep 2013 #63

So ProSense Sep 2013 #66

Look up the term advocacy journalism. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #68

I know what it is. Are you saying that a person pushing propaganda is a journalist? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #70

No. Propaganda and advocacy journalism are not the same thing. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #78

Actually, I'd say that both you and Gannon would be more accurately described as propagandists Electric Monk Sep 2013 #71

So ProSense Sep 2013 #73

If they're analyzing or reporting on current events or things in the public interest, yes. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #59

Wait, ProSense Sep 2013 #64

That would be shitty tabloid journalism, but SCOTUS has repeatedly defended even that NuclearDem Sep 2013 #65

Freedom of speech, ProSense Sep 2013 #69

In the first great press case in the US. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #75

What does that have to do with Orly Taitz specifically? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #81

So you just asked what a case that defended a tabloid publisher of nonsense NuclearDem Sep 2013 #83

No, I asked: ProSense Sep 2013 #89

Yes. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #45

What exactly ProSense Sep 2013 #47

He covered the White House, got press credentials, was published, and had a readership. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #50

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #53

"Better 100 guilty men go free than 1 be imprisoned." WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #57

I suppose that's ProSense Sep 2013 #61

If what they are putting into writing is meant to inform, yes. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #67

Gannon's GOPUSA propaganda disguised as news was "meant to inform"? ProSense Sep 2013 #74

What kind of "jounalist" do you think a government would authorize? DJ13 Sep 2013 #76

"Who determines what is 'meant to inform'? WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #80

Thanks for posting that, but ProSense Sep 2013 #82

I already addressed that. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #87

Yes or no ProSense Sep 2013 #90

Yes. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #102

So intentional distortions and propaganda are journalism? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #104

We're talking in circles, Pro. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #105

I don't buy that. ProSense Sep 2013 #107

So for the sake of thwarting one already-discredited fraud, WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #109

No, you don't appear to know what's in the bill or its purpose. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #145

When he wasn't pimping himself out for sexual service he wrote for a right wing rag notadmblnd Sep 2013 #56

Yes but a very poor one. nt Live and Learn Sep 2013 #77

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #79

"his right to speech takes precedence over a journalist's" ProSense Sep 2013 #85

Why does it matter? Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #86

I stated why, and ProSense Sep 2013 #93

Well, you'll have to restate it, Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #95

He is protected by the 1st Amendment, from government interference sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #84

Again ProSense Sep 2013 #91

Once again, why does it matter? Answer that question. n/t Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #92

You got your answer above and in this comment. Now address the point. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #94

There is no point at all, Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #96

The Constitution is clear on this. You are so wrong on this issue it boggles sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #97

No, and your opinion is ProSense Sep 2013 #99

The 'press'. Where do you think the word came from? Was Ben Franklin sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #134

What? ProSense Sep 2013 #135

??? Let me ask YOU that question: sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #147

"you can say anything, put it in writing, but it doesn't mean you're a journalist or the press." Chan790 Sep 2013 #120

How about ProSense Sep 2013 #133

.... SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #88

Is John Stewart? Stephen Colbert? Glen Greenwald? Matt Taibbi? Greg Palast? SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #98

when CNN was propagandizing to push the invasion of Iraq or the impeachment of Clinton, were they Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #100

He was a useful idiot, paid to try to dictate the news Warpy Sep 2013 #101

I find the tendency toward authoritarianism by the majority of poll respondents here very disturbing Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #103

Actually, ProSense Sep 2013 #106

for all practical purposes it does - it define who is protected under shield laws and who is not Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #110

How did the 1st Amendment ever survive 224 years without defining journalist (or press)? Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #108

"Currently, 40 states have shield laws..." ProSense Sep 2013 #111

Thanks for the link. Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #132

Yes..a pukey yes but a yes. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #112

Jeff Gannon is a State farm agent in Mt. Juliet, TN OmahaBlueDog Sep 2013 #113

Are you? Aerows Sep 2013 #114

No, that's not what I'm "saying" ProSense Sep 2013 #115

But that is what you are endorsing Aerows Sep 2013 #116

No, it isn't. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #117

Yes, it is Aerows Sep 2013 #118

No, and ProSense Sep 2013 #119

Prosense, you aren't going to win this one Aerows Sep 2013 #121

You don't know what you're talking about ProSense Sep 2013 #124

I think I have a far better argument than you do Aerows Sep 2013 #125

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #126

Good luck on this one Aerows Sep 2013 #127

Not a problem ProSense Sep 2013 #129

I don't support a law Aerows Sep 2013 #131

Wasn't He W's Man-Date? Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #122

Yes he was. dawg Sep 2013 #123

He's every bit as much a journalist as Britt Hume and Chuck Todd..... Rowdyboy Sep 2013 #130

Dang! Caretha Sep 2013 #138

"You left an option out" ProSense Sep 2013 #139

That's Caretha Sep 2013 #140

At least you agree it was "stupid." ProSense Sep 2013 #141

Yes I do Caretha Sep 2013 #142

Like I said, stop projecting. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #144

What's the point here? JG could have been a journo AND a male prostitute for a WH resident. WinkyDink Sep 2013 #148