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Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
40. Diclotican
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:07 AM
Sep 2013

What an ordeal you went through! I appreciate the time and thought you put into your post - no problem with understanding it. And I'm glad you are "on the mend" as we say in the States. I don't think you would have had such a good outcome here.

K&R

Thank you. And your grammar and spelling are better than that of many posters. Squinch Sep 2013 #1
Because Obama! the US has come up with a 'uniquely american' solution. KG Sep 2013 #2
Social Security = we're all forced to pay into a retirement security Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #9
quality coverage at an affordable cost KG Sep 2013 #12
Honest question: why the hilarity? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #16
please. ACA is nothing even remotely like SS or fire depts. KG Sep 2013 #18
Their profits are regulated, the premiums have to be approved, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #22
You mean, Their Profits are NOW Guaranteed! bvar22 Sep 2013 #99
Well, before the ACA they could politely turn down a cancer patient who applied for insurance. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #131
But NOW, thanks to the ACA, RICH People who can aford the pricy "Buy In"... bvar22 Sep 2013 #145
I guess you're not familiar with the ACA premium subsidies (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #150
That only applies to those who qualify to go on the exchanges... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #177
There are income limits to who qualifies for a subsidy. dflprincess Sep 2013 #239
One thing to bear in mind is that preventive care is free, regardless of the deductible. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #242
Preventive care doesn't do you any good if you can't afford any follow up you may need. dflprincess Sep 2013 #252
In-network lab service on a CT silver plan has a $30 copay. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #255
Yes -"a transfer of billions in public and private money into the pockets of ...crooks" bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #274
Here's the flexibility that the ACA offers. roamer65 Sep 2013 #181
As far as I'm aware of, you are disqualified from the exchanges if the plans... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #196
A lot of employers are going to drop their plans IMO. roamer65 Sep 2013 #227
So you would prefer $15,000 a month you can't pay to $300 a month you can't pay? Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #235
If one doesn NOT have the the $300/month in disposable income, bvar22 Sep 2013 #282
Correct - but the same was true (and worse) Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #283
exactly (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #273
Because we have been sold a bill of goods. RC Sep 2013 #27
If you really don't understand how "more coverage" leads to "better health care" Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #32
Coverage is not health care. RC Sep 2013 #38
see, it always goes back to hating obama. KG Sep 2013 #100
Yep, that hate cause me to enthusiastically vote for him the first time & reluctantly the 2nd time. RC Sep 2013 #118
One part of Obamacare... Unknown Beatle Sep 2013 #199
Guaranteed PROFITS for Corporations that are SUPPOSED.... bvar22 Sep 2013 #208
per Bernie there were < 10 votes in the senate for single payer, it;s sad, but bark up a dionysus Sep 2013 #238
Single Payer wasn't even allowed on the table. RC Sep 2013 #244
i know.we're not really disageeing. it wasn't on the table because it didn't have support even in dionysus Sep 2013 #293
It's a first step adieu Sep 2013 #111
President Obama had 60 Democrats in the Senate and a Democratic House. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #130
You still choose plan A B or C, depending what you can afford. Could you afford 30% of hospital care SugarShack Sep 2013 #63
In CT, under an Obamacare Silver plan, for a hospital stay, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #67
$500 per day copay? Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #179
I'm not sure how I said it "like it is spare change". Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #185
I thought the annual out of pocket limits and lifetime limits have been suspended for a year... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #203
You have to meet the deductible first, which means a maximum of 5000 dollars for first admission... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #210
I'm pretty sure that if you stay in network it's only the copay. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #212
Follow the asterisks in your posts about the plan information you are given... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #215
Remember - there is an out of pocket maximum per year. Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #284
That's at least 3 months pay, combined income, I guess we aren't supposed to pay for rent or food. Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #288
They are less screwed than before the ACA Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #291
No, I don't qualify for subsidies or cost sharing, my work offers insurance... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #292
Well - if your insurance is crappy enough Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #294
ah yes: Institutionalized inequality - Platinum people and Bronze people bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #275
Unless you're in a union... Why Syzygy Sep 2013 #258
Tell us why you think expanded Medicaid and subsidies up to 400% of FPL tabasco Sep 2013 #19
Not everyone is getting expanded medicaid BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #91
+++++++++++++ (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #272
And SS, disablity, Fire departments are all for-profit too! progressoid Sep 2013 #30
+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #34
You really don't see the difference edhopper Sep 2013 #43
Bravo!! Jerry442 Sep 2013 #52
Privately-owned toll roads? What a ridiculous and unthinkable idea! Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #72
I think the most important sentence pangaia Sep 2013 #80
Er...no. As usual. LWolf Sep 2013 #53
Different implementation with essentially the same outcome. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #61
Insurance reforms are welcome. Mandated purchase, NOT leftstreet Sep 2013 #68
Private, for profit insurance LWolf Sep 2013 #79
Interesting tiredtoo Sep 2013 #142
What do *I* consider affordable? LWolf Sep 2013 #152
Well, tiredtoo Sep 2013 #200
The state of Michigan forces you to own a car and keep it on the road? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #216
not the last that i heard tiredtoo Sep 2013 #221
I didn't think any of the insurance exchanges were as yet all settled in DebJ Sep 2013 #168
One in CA. One in OR. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #172
Do you remember the dynamics of the House and Senate when the ACA passed? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #232
"Pushing for more." LWolf Sep 2013 #295
Quality coverage? enlightenment Sep 2013 #78
OK: Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #81
Bully for Connecticut. enlightenment Sep 2013 #107
$1377 all-inclusive for a 2 night hospital stay, the doctors, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #117
I'm delighted you're pleased with the CT plan. enlightenment Sep 2013 #119
Sorry, but I don't have time to do that for all 50 states (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #123
Don't forget that if you have NO insurance, every service will cost you double, triple, or more DebJ Sep 2013 #170
My fiancee takes about 10 medications a month, for a chronic condition... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #165
Have you checked what subsidy you would be entitled to? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #182
None, my employer offers a bronze level plan... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #184
So you would be better off if your employer offered no insurance. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #187
Yes, though I heard they are renegotiating, but we won't know squat till December... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #188
OK, well the best of luck with that (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #189
Well, to be honest, I'm trying to switch jobs before that, but it really is going to depend on... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #201
I wouldn't trade my Canadian plan for anything remotely like that. delrem Sep 2013 #241
"57% of Canadians reported waiting 30 days (4 weeks) or more to see a specialist". Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #245
I don't see anything wrong with a wait time to see specialists in non-life-threatening delrem Sep 2013 #249
My understanding is that many rich bastards come to the US for health care Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #251
Of course they do! delrem Sep 2013 #257
I had to wait FIVE mimi85 Sep 2013 #254
But of your examples, Obamacare is the only one demwing Sep 2013 #82
Again, that was the only way to get a bill passed. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #87
Honestly, I'm not sure I do agree demwing Sep 2013 #98
It is *not* closer to the "ideal" (single payer gov't overseen) plan. delrem Sep 2013 #243
This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #247
So why did Paul Krugman describe Obamacare as "an approximation of a single payer system"? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #248
He's wrong. delrem Sep 2013 #250
SocSec, Medicare and fire departments are GOVERNMENT programs eridani Sep 2013 #231
off to the greatest page for you rurallib Sep 2013 #3
rurallib Diclotican Sep 2013 #10
The US let my daughter die because of money Stargazer99 Sep 2013 #4
Stargazer99 Diclotican Sep 2013 #8
Very sorry about your daughter. You hit the real problem we are having right now square on the head jwirr Sep 2013 #60
I am so sorry to hear it. Quantess Sep 2013 #116
Thank you. K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2013 #5
Thanks for relating your experience. Sienna86 Sep 2013 #6
Sienna86 Diclotican Sep 2013 #13
knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #7
brings this to mind: how the TV show 'Breaking Bad' plays out in the rest of the civilized world. KG Sep 2013 #11
KG Diclotican Sep 2013 #26
K&R. So many Americans die from lack of healthcare. DLevine Sep 2013 #14
DLevine Diclotican Sep 2013 #17
That's right. NOBODY with single payer health care would want the US system. Quantess Sep 2013 #77
Quantess Diclotican Sep 2013 #83
Thanks for posting that. I also live in a country with universal health care... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #15
Violet_Crumble Diclotican Sep 2013 #23
Your Australian rates are cheap compared to what we pay in Germany! DFW Sep 2013 #28
And I believe that in your countries, your employer will even accommodate DebJ Sep 2013 #171
DebJ Diclotican Sep 2013 #175
Three days can put you in trouble here in many places. A week, maybe. DebJ Sep 2013 #193
I'm not moving back to the USA until the health care system is fixed. Quantess Sep 2013 #20
Quantess Diclotican Sep 2013 #24
Health care was one of two issues for us when we left the US. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #35
American friends who have had cancer and insurance Quantess Sep 2013 #69
Completely agree. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #84
Nice to see you dodged the vicious Norwegian Death Panels krispos42 Sep 2013 #21
krispos42 Diclotican Sep 2013 #25
Glad to hear that things worked out for you, Diclotican. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #29
Enthusiast Diclotican Sep 2013 #31
You can get the same kind of universal care in the US dem in texas Sep 2013 #33
dem in texas Diclotican Sep 2013 #36
I was making an ironic statement, I know it doesn't work for everyone dem in texas Sep 2013 #103
dem in texas Diclotican Sep 2013 #169
Thanks dem in texas for posting the supplemental costs. DebJ Sep 2013 #174
dem in Texas, you are misinformed Maineman Sep 2013 #48
Countries with single payer usually have small charges for patients. Not free. Quantess Sep 2013 #134
Quantess Diclotican Sep 2013 #176
The difference is that when one is at an "advanced" age, SoCalDem Sep 2013 #213
Sort of. LWolf Sep 2013 #56
Meds come under the bill passed by G.W.Bush and the repugs eom tiredtoo Sep 2013 #214
And isn't part of the ACA? nt LWolf Sep 2013 #217
the aca tiredtoo Sep 2013 #222
So we're not really talking about GWB's actions. LWolf Sep 2013 #225
sir tiredtoo Sep 2013 #226
It will be better under Obamacare. roamer65 Sep 2013 #178
Quality of a country's health care measured by what the bottom 10% get, not the top 10%. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #37
Bernardo de La Paz Diclotican Sep 2013 #42
"often it is the sick and poor who need universal health care more than everyone else" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #44
If "We take care of our own" good enough for US Marines, it's good enough for the whole USA. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #39
Diclotican Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #40
Iwillnevergiveup Diclotican Sep 2013 #45
Even if we ditched sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #41
sulphurdunn Diclotican Sep 2013 #46
Interesting comment/observation ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #270
ConcernedCanuk Diclotican Sep 2013 #277
Don't forget the rampant profiteering of the medical/pharmaceutical community and the Maineman Sep 2013 #55
Maineman Diclotican Sep 2013 #59
Wrong. The healthier you are, the longer you live. The longer you live-- eridani Sep 2013 #233
Yes, we could. Even with an expensive security state-- eridani Sep 2013 #279
we here in america heaven05 Sep 2013 #47
heaven05 Diclotican Sep 2013 #65
I could not agree more heaven05 Sep 2013 #70
heaven05 Diclotican Sep 2013 #75
so glad you're on the mend.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #49
mountain grammy Diclotican Sep 2013 #76
It is horrible, Diclotican. The worst thing is people who are so afraid of universal health mountain grammy Sep 2013 #153
mountain grammy Diclotican Sep 2013 #157
Diclotican, what you say is so true, but the real problem is mountain grammy Sep 2013 #159
mountain grammy Diclotican Sep 2013 #164
Hejsan! Demeter Sep 2013 #50
Demeter Diclotican Sep 2013 #54
Thank you, Diclotican. Aristus Sep 2013 #51
Aristus Diclotican Sep 2013 #57
Glad you are AOK Diclotican JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #58
JustAnotherGen Diclotican Sep 2013 #62
My great-aunt's experience with NHS in Wales. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #64
ColesCountyDem Diclotican Sep 2013 #73
Diclotican Thor_MN Sep 2013 #66
Thor_MN Diclotican Sep 2013 #74
DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #71
If you don't go broke paying for life-sustaining healthcare it ain't freedom! Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #85
Arugula Latte Diclotican Sep 2013 #96
here in the states that would cost somewhere between 3-4 hundred thousand dollars madrchsod Sep 2013 #86
madrchsod Diclotican Sep 2013 #88
i've declared medical bankruptcy twice in my lifetime madrchsod Sep 2013 #204
madrchsod Diclotican Sep 2013 #207
Under an Obamacare gold plan it would cost no more than $3000. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #92
thanks madrchsod Sep 2013 #205
Americans don't realise how screwed they are Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #89
Under an Obamacare Gold plan, it would have cost you no more than $3000, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #90
You're ignoring the insurance premiums Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #93
What would your cost be without Obamacare? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #105
Worse, no doubt Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #112
So starting next year you will be paying somewhat more per month, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #126
Maybe Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #135
Bear in mind that under the ACA check-ups and all preventive care are free, Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #138
That's an important point Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #141
Ron Obvious Diclotican Sep 2013 #94
That bill also arrived 6 months later... Ron Obvious Sep 2013 #128
Ron Obvious Diclotican Sep 2013 #143
glad you are on the mend. mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2013 #95
mstinamotorcity2 Diclotican Sep 2013 #97
Diclotican, I'm sorry you had this health ordeal, but glad you did not have the added stress of suffragette Sep 2013 #101
suffragette Diclotican Sep 2013 #104
Hi, Diclotican! Hissyspit Sep 2013 #102
Hissyspit Diclotican Sep 2013 #106
Your English is much better than my Norwegian... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #108
awoke_in_2003 Diclotican Sep 2013 #110
I don't hold out much hope... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #122
I have the VA and it is pretty good madokie Sep 2013 #109
madokie Diclotican Sep 2013 #113
Cost? Put it this way, break your leg on a ski trip and lose your house. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #114
Spitfire of ATJ Diclotican Sep 2013 #115
Woulda been cheaper to toss the TV in there. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #146
Or pay no more than $3000 for everything under an Obamacare Gold plan. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #124
I didn't find any premiums on the site - Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #285
Here's a link that talks about premiums: Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #286
So - for anyone with ongoing meds and medical needs Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #287
I am originally from Canada pandr32 Sep 2013 #120
pandr32 Diclotican Sep 2013 #129
This is why as a Canadian I don't agree that the US ACA is a "first-step to universal coverage". delrem Sep 2013 #237
I'm so glad you are getting well! REP Sep 2013 #121
REP Diclotican Sep 2013 #133
"Den Brysomme Mannen" is a really good movie REP Sep 2013 #156
REP Diclotican Sep 2013 #160
Here's an experience of a loved one with Commonwealth Care (AKA Romneycare, precursor to Obamacare) MADem Sep 2013 #125
See, that's how Romney totally, monumentally screwed up in 2012. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #127
Thank heavens his judgment sucked so bad! MADem Sep 2013 #139
MADem Diclotican Sep 2013 #137
We are not going to get that. It's not going to happen. At least not soon, and maybe not ever. MADem Sep 2013 #149
MADem Diclotican Sep 2013 #154
I found this comparison between tax rates in Norway, in my state (blue Mass), and MADem Sep 2013 #155
MADem Diclotican Sep 2013 #173
I have to agree--the trick is getting it in the first place! nt MADem Sep 2013 #206
MADem Diclotican Sep 2013 #211
American people accept a corporate dictatorship Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #132
Diclotican, barbtries Sep 2013 #136
barbtries Diclotican Sep 2013 #140
thank you so much for your story. We have to have universal health care here in the US. There just liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #144
liberal_at_heart Diclotican Sep 2013 #147
You heal, and if you were in the US nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #148
nadinbrzezinski Diclotican Sep 2013 #151
Can somebody edit this? ErikJ Sep 2013 #158
ErikJ Diclotican Sep 2013 #161
Lots of vicious propaganda out there. ErikJ Sep 2013 #163
ErikJ Diclotican Sep 2013 #166
If it were me tiredtoo Sep 2013 #223
Thank you for sharing this with us. Just the fact that you were admitted and held in Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #162
Egalitarian Thug Diclotican Sep 2013 #167
Thanks for sharing Diclotican, Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #180
Uncle Joe Diclotican Sep 2013 #183
Your English is beautiful fadedrose Sep 2013 #186
fadedrose Diclotican Sep 2013 #190
Poetic prose, yes, that's how you write... fadedrose Sep 2013 #191
fadedrose Diclotican Sep 2013 #195
Thank you for sharing this. Even in your non-native language, it makes sense and... Triana Sep 2013 #192
Triana Diclotican Sep 2013 #194
"I have always been wondering why americans are so afraid of change" Triana Sep 2013 #220
thanks for writing this, Diclotican Skittles Sep 2013 #197
Skittles Diclotican Sep 2013 #198
You would have lost your home in the US Doctor_J Sep 2013 #202
Doctor_J Diclotican Sep 2013 #209
I think this is the way the president & Dems should have pitched SP UHC here Doctor_J Sep 2013 #218
I have friend that lives in Monterrey, Mexico. Lobo27 Sep 2013 #219
In Japan... Godot51 Sep 2013 #224
How much do you pay in taxes for your Universal coverage? cbdo2007 Sep 2013 #228
cbdo2007 Diclotican Sep 2013 #263
I am glad you were able to get medical care and now are on the mend. :^) GreenPartyVoter Sep 2013 #229
GreenPartyVoter Diclotican Sep 2013 #264
Your grammar and spelling are better than those of a couple of US Congress members eridani Sep 2013 #230
eridani Diclotican Sep 2013 #265
I have a friend in Norway right now being treated for throat cancer LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #234
LadyHawkAZ Diclotican Sep 2013 #266
it wasn't free... you paid for it with your taxes.. came out on top, and thats how it should be dionysus Sep 2013 #236
dionysus Diclotican Sep 2013 #267
Very glad you are recovering, Diclotican! TygrBright Sep 2013 #240
TygrBright Diclotican Sep 2013 #260
We have Universal Rent Extraction kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #246
kenny blankenship Diclotican Sep 2013 #261
I appreciate hearing your experience with healthcare in Norway davidpdx Sep 2013 #253
davidpdx Diclotican Sep 2013 #262
K&R! Amazing post and thank you! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2013 #256
Rhiannon12866 Diclotican Sep 2013 #268
I hope so, too, but I fear I will not live to see that day. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #259
kestrel91316 Diclotican Sep 2013 #269
10 days in the hospital=35K for ROOM AND BOARD DiverDave Sep 2013 #271
DiverDave Diclotican Sep 2013 #276
I was pretty sick DiverDave Sep 2013 #280
DiverDave Diclotican Sep 2013 #281
I couldnt think straight DiverDave Sep 2013 #289
DiverDave Diclotican Sep 2013 #290
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #278
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