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13. Maybe if Obama promised to be more of a Nixon...That would be a start.

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Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:56 AM

Sep 2013

Since Nixon is now in the far left category.

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If You Think the Democratic Party Is Not Doing Its Job, [View all] MineralMan Sep 2013 OP

We are out of centrist corporate Democrats. But they are like Dorritos... Safetykitten Sep 2013 #1

It's up to you, really. MineralMan Sep 2013 #2

To make more Dorritos? I'll pass. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #8

OK. Your choice, then. MineralMan Sep 2013 #14

Get back to me on the new flavor of Dorritos that get bought, then realized it's Dorritos. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #15

I don't think I'll bother getting back to you. MineralMan Sep 2013 #18

Excellent! mimi85 Sep 2013 #74

Indeed. Talk to those who care and will DO Hekate Sep 2013 #135

Buzz words "centrist corporate Democrats" means nothing. lumpy Sep 2013 #104

The reason we don't have "leaders" is because everyone is looking for leaders. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #3

You are absolutely correct. MineralMan Sep 2013 #4

Truly. I like that. lumpy Sep 2013 #103

"Get involved and become the party." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #5

If you have been active in your local party organization MineralMan Sep 2013 #6

Actually I have participated, and I have run into some of the most R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #7

Good for you for participating. MineralMan Sep 2013 #11

I'm not sure that you understand my post. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #20

canvassers get a half hour of training. mopinko Sep 2013 #30

Seriously?? Really?? I'm supposed to believe that a canvasser can't answer a simple question R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #43

ever tried it? mopinko Sep 2013 #47

What a joke of a retort. I've phonebanked enough in my time, aand I have at least had to R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #99

i call bullshit. mopinko Sep 2013 #117

You can call your mother for all I care, and when you do ask her to send you a fresh R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #130

people who beat up on volunteers have a special place in my heart. mopinko Sep 2013 #131

"people who beat up on volunteers have a special place in my heart." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #132

Just put a sign on your door letting people know not to waste their time on you Hekate Sep 2013 #136

How about this. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #146

you don't understand the purpose of canvasing. mopinko Sep 2013 #154

"you don't understand the purpose of canvasing..." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #157

people should know this about the ignore button- admins mopinko Sep 2013 #158

Please go. Go away. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #160

You should probably make Olivaw's script part of your training, as in: "If you meet this guy... Hekate Sep 2013 #167

yeah, usually there is a warning passed along mopinko Sep 2013 #169

Start a Democratic Book Club in your area. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #59

Very good advice. People can form their own clubs, invite their Democratic friends and it can lumpy Sep 2013 #102

Here's what I do in my precinct walking activities: MineralMan Sep 2013 #83

You are one hardworking and effective precinct chair! nt Hekate Sep 2013 #137

It's fun, too. MineralMan Sep 2013 #143

I have no simple answer for your question. MineralMan Sep 2013 #31

Actually it is OK with me. At least you gave me an answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #148

Are you saying people could have done better than Obama? leftstreet Sep 2013 #9

I'm suggesting that people think about tomorrow. MineralMan Sep 2013 #10

When local party politicians will not demand that Obama remain true to traditional Democratic values AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #32

And how do you suppose those local party politicians MineralMan Sep 2013 #36

From what I can see, none of them have gotten the message. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #44

Replace them, then, locally. MineralMan Sep 2013 #48

I wish that you were a politician in my geographical area. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #54

Listen to what Mineral Man is saying. He is trying to educate you how to become involved lumpy Sep 2013 #105

Sorry, when I played football, others were the cheerleaders. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #106

If you think that's what I'm doing, that's because I agree with the Mineral Man wholeheartedly. lumpy Sep 2013 #110

If you think that the world revolves around you, you are too self-absorbed. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #112

Sounds to me like people aren't holding Skidmore Sep 2013 #165

No one is asking the President to "growl at ... local pols." The local pols should be growling AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #166

You are looking at the whole process backwards treestar Sep 2013 #95

I wish that you were an actual politician in my area. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #98

Maybe if Obama promised to be more of a Nixon...That would be a start. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #13

Nixon would be hounded at DU as a radical leftist leftstreet Sep 2013 #21

Not a chance: Nixon was a bigoted right-wing authoritarian, who happened to face a liberal Congress struggle4progress Sep 2013 #140

Because that worked out so well with MoveOn.org's chosen one in 2008? MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #12

My post is nothing of the sort. MineralMan Sep 2013 #16

What you are exhorting voters to do is exactly what many DID in 2008. Proving that there are no MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #22

If you don't participate in choosing candidates, you get the MineralMan Sep 2013 #23

I understand you perfectly. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #24

Clearly you do not. MineralMan Sep 2013 #26

You wish. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #38

I doubt you understand perfectly. You haven't learned a damn thing from this thread. lumpy Sep 2013 #108

You've convinced me. From now on I'll just shoot the messenger. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #17

Better than blaming the voters leftstreet Sep 2013 #33

x2. Absolutely right. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #27

You just told a banned troll she was right. Quelle surprise. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #168

Oh dear, you spoke truth. This could be a big problem. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #28

So the admins finally showed you the door, huh? They have been cleaning house and totally Number23 Sep 2013 #141

+infinity BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #145

I just noticed that. Wow! MineralMan Sep 2013 #177

Lots of really yucky posts all over the site. So stridently anti-Obama there was no question Number23 Sep 2013 #180

Does "Job" = that for which you're paid? nt bluedeathray Sep 2013 #19

No. "Job" means doing what we want them to do. MineralMan Sep 2013 #25

Absolutely right bluedeathray Sep 2013 #29

When you do the job of taking care of your car, do you get paud for it? lumpy Sep 2013 #109

gotta be like the wingnuts- start with the school boards. mopinko Sep 2013 #34

Precisely. It is at the local level that all candidates for office MineralMan Sep 2013 #39

i live in one of those neighborhoods affectionately known as mopinko Sep 2013 #115

And that is precisely what I'm talking about. MineralMan Sep 2013 #116

usually power is there for the ducking. mopinko Sep 2013 #118

You are so right. MineralMan Sep 2013 #119

i was asked to join my ward party's board because mopinko Sep 2013 #121

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #35

To find out what I'm talking about, just read the post. MineralMan Sep 2013 #40

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Please, liberals/Progressive are not ants or bees Iliyah Sep 2013 #51

you, of course are correct etherealtruth Sep 2013 #37

Thanks! MineralMan Sep 2013 #41

k&r HappyMe Sep 2013 #42

K & R Iliyah Sep 2013 #45

Thank you! MineralMan Sep 2013 #50

If you want to make a difference, get involved locally liberal N proud Sep 2013 #46

Yup. Once you get involved with local party organizations, MineralMan Sep 2013 #49

My local and state parties are incompetent and corrupt. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #53

Well, that's not the case in my districts. MineralMan Sep 2013 #64

Mineral Man, this OP should be a special feature on DU. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #55

Thank you. The more people there are who feel as you do, MineralMan Sep 2013 #66

I can't believe how much resistance and ridicule there is for Mineral Man's Politics 101 suggestion NBachers Sep 2013 #56

It's the same old response he has to everything. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #63

Those who say it makes no difference make no difference. MineralMan Sep 2013 #68

Got great people in my precinct. They fight for our interests. Hey, even had Kucinich as a speaker. freshwest Sep 2013 #100

Unfortunately bromides cannot overcome the complete permeation of Hate Radio Doctor_J Sep 2013 #57

No, they can't. Hard work can, though. MineralMan Sep 2013 #91

Yes, we need to build a democratic party... polichick Sep 2013 #58

If you want to build a new party, then do that. That's up to you. MineralMan Sep 2013 #70

How long have you been working within the party? polichick Sep 2013 #71

Let's see. I started working in the Democratic Party in MineralMan Sep 2013 #78

Since the 70s, but for me it's always been about issues and policies, not so much... polichick Sep 2013 #80

I've always been interested in both. MineralMan Sep 2013 #82

I agree with your OP, but disagree with one minor point here Jim Lane Sep 2013 #133

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan Sep 2013 #144

Good question. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #81

I love how we now have a call to purge Cryptoad Sep 2013 #60

They do!? How would you know that? Rex Sep 2013 #65

I live in a Sea of them! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #92

Actually, that call is being made by people who don't really participate MineralMan Sep 2013 #72

No way can I comment on your election.... sounds like your Cryptoad Sep 2013 #93

Thank you for saying that. Just another K&R. gtar100 Sep 2013 #61

Thanks for the K&R! MineralMan Sep 2013 #73

Hello, broken record. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #62

It's my favorite. I play it all the time. MineralMan Sep 2013 #75

Is another kick needed? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #67

I don't know, but thanks for the kick. MineralMan Sep 2013 #76

I'm thinking that some people are tired of playing the role of Charlie Brown. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #79

Why would you assume that I do not? MineralMan Sep 2013 #89

Call Jim Dean at DFA, ask what you can do locally. DFW Sep 2013 #69

Thanks. MineralMan Sep 2013 #77

dfa is the best mopinko Sep 2013 #123

Howard and Jim are the best DFW Sep 2013 #124

Here's some direct action that is apparently effecting democratic change: Hissyspit Sep 2013 #84

OK. Now, let's elect legislators who will make changes. MineralMan Sep 2013 #87

Edward Snowden isn't going to get people elected. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #171

That's right. Sitting around and just being cynical Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #85

You're absolutely right. MineralMan Sep 2013 #86

Cynicism is like the measles, its catching and can ruin your eyesight. lumpy Sep 2013 #111

Great OP, get involved,the party reflects it's most sufrommich Sep 2013 #88

Yup. And the candidates and elected officials listen MineralMan Sep 2013 #90

K&R treestar Sep 2013 #94

That's right loyalsister Sep 2013 #96

I know they're not doing their job. They don't even bother to ask for my vote. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #97

Some take the work of the Democratic Party for granted. They have forgotten or ignored reality: freshwest Sep 2013 #101

Thanks for your links! MineralMan Sep 2013 #113

Nothing is happening at the federal level unless we get some leverage in the House. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #107

That shouldn't stop us from trying to get the best possible MineralMan Sep 2013 #114

I agree 100%. And I'm not suggesting we shouldn't try to retake the house, rather Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #128

house seats are not out of reach of small dedicated groups. mopinko Sep 2013 #120

Absolutely. While not every district is a possibility, MineralMan Sep 2013 #122

Your point that we can overcome with registration was proven in 2012, with media against us... freshwest Sep 2013 #125

I am not sure my county Democrats are still in the party Generic Other Sep 2013 #126

Up to the District level in my area is still that way. MineralMan Sep 2013 #127

So the state level party ignores the Districts, and then you complain those District level folks Romulox Sep 2013 #149

No, it doesn't ignore the districts. It includes platform items MineralMan Sep 2013 #152

Right. Your top down process doesn't have the support at the grassroots level. Wherefore surprise? Romulox Sep 2013 #155

You are correct Generic Other Sep 2013 #183

Agreed! KNR jazzimov Sep 2013 #129

KnR, MinMan. GOTV 2014! nt Hekate Sep 2013 #134

People should be bookmarking this thread as Politics 101. MinMan, Mopinko, & JDPriestly... Hekate Sep 2013 #138

Thanks for the post, Hekate! MineralMan Sep 2013 #142

Very happy to kick and rec this thread! calimary Sep 2013 #139

"this is what I was always taught by Mr. Pangloss, and I see plainly that all is for the best." Romulox Sep 2013 #147

A quote from "Candide" is always a sign of an educated person. MineralMan Sep 2013 #150

The quote has a hidden meaning that I intended to relate to the content of the OP! Romulox Sep 2013 #151

No, your meaning is not hidden. I just choose not to argue with you about it. MineralMan Sep 2013 #153

I didn't ask for any argument; I made the point I wanted to make. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #156

Yes, and I thanked you for the time required to reply. MineralMan Sep 2013 #159

You are passively-aggressively claiming the right to approve or disapprove of my post. Romulox Sep 2013 #161

Actually, I'm not doing that at all, MineralMan Sep 2013 #162

I don't think this exchange is flattering to you, or the point you were attempting to make. Romulox Sep 2013 #163

Well, you're wrong in that. It just makes you look like a fool who doesn't care if Dems lose... Hekate Sep 2013 #164

I'm not putting in ANY hard work to get "sensible centrists" elected. Deal with it. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #174

Then you would think wrong. nt. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #170

Very simple and is the base of polotics. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #172

Thanks for your reply. MineralMan Sep 2013 #173

"Other reasons" definitely come into play. Hekate Sep 2013 #175

While I think that could be a possibility, MineralMan Sep 2013 #176

Upbeat Hekate Sep 2013 #179

Good post! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #178

I will not give a nickle to the Democratic Party. mick063 Sep 2013 #181

Reading this thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #182