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freshwest

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36. Next from the same school of thought: Kerry danced naked at Bohemian Grove worshiping Moloch and
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:22 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:27 PM - Edit history (2)

howled war hoops and cheered human sacrifice with the satanists there!

Well, NOT. He's not even on the list reported by Infowars. Won't link it here, though, but no, he's not on it despite the other Skull and Bones members who attend there.

But Iran's PressTV is very definite on Kerry's evil ambitions and uses ALL the dog whistles. I dare a person to not get their blood riled up at this:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/03/291680/kerry-skull-and-bones-and-syria-ruin/

So folks can decide if the Iran, Syria and Russia are the real defenders of human rights, freedom and liberty from the uh, well, you know whatsis.

I've entertained all of this stuff, until I found the JBS, Koch links and kept going down the rabbit hole.

Billionaires do not ignore any chance at pushing their agenda. It is being played from all sides now. Enough people will fall for it who have the best of intentions. The results are the same.

People with experience dealing those who one truly can't stand, but must act nice in public, know how this works. I've had to negotiate with political opponents my gut wanted eliminated from the gene pool for the sake of humanity.

If you listen to your gut and not your mind, things get out of hand quickly. There are usually areas of common cause that can be found, even if the other person is a lying no-good POS. But you can't get anything out of them by venting at them.

Venting is the cheap thing to do on the internet or in a mob. It does not work in the real world when there are causes more important than ego.

So yes, Kerry is going to treat Assad with respect and warmth to his face. It is part of getting support for what one accepts, not a love affair. It's called diplomacy and most people don't have what it takes to do it.

As far as the claims that it is hypocritical for Kerry to get angry at Assad's use of chemical warfare, with over a thousand dead in one day and thousands disabled survivors the same day, they are wrong.

This is just the icing on the cake of a civil war that has taken the lives of tens of thousands as Assad attempts to win a ground war that he has lost.

It's said that half a million people have been made homeless and are fleeing into Turkey and other places. Assad is losing vital territory, even in the nation's capitol, the city of Damascus.

If a fighting force took over part of Washington, D.C., it would have a paralyzing effect on the government. This is last ditch fighting, and for some reason Assad does not seem to have any plans to reconcile by working through their differences in a democratic way.

The fact Kerry called out the US government on its own war crimes in Vietnam, by the use of chemical weapons and free fire zones, etc. and is still hated by the RW, is why this will be pushed from the RW which is merging with the left, having found common ground on one or more issues.

So people should (not referring to you) look to all the alliances, social, military and political before going on the attack, is all I'd ask. The world is not B&W. JMHO.

EDIT:

Regarding the mention of Kerry, Bush and Skull and Bones in the post you replied to:

My citation of the article with this accusation is from a well-known CTer, birther and an Infowars regular:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley

He is cited by Infowars, Paulites, 2nd Amendment Solution advocates and other fringe RWer groups. Now he is in league with:

Press TV (stylised PRESSTV) is a 24-hour English language news organization of the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PressTV

We won't see him cited at DU, but the ideas sans the birtherism is, AFAIK. But Paul Craig Roberts, an Infowars idol and father of Reaganomics, which he still supports, is posted here at times.

He is a thinker and some of what he has written is good. He defends Social Security, etc. as private property. But he also supports Ron Paul and likely Rand as well.

They are no good for this country and encourage those who want armed revolt over taxes, the ACA, infringing on the 2nd amendment, etc. Their interpretation of the 2nd is insane. So none of them are in my good books.

Kerry has a lot more first hand experience pjt7 Sep 2013 #1
Amazing you consider that and ignore what Kerry did opposing Vietnam, karynnj Sep 2013 #20
Next from the same school of thought: Kerry danced naked at Bohemian Grove worshiping Moloch and freshwest Sep 2013 #36
Assad is like Hussein. Another useful dictator we're done with. DirkGently Sep 2013 #2
Jeez. All Rumsfeld got out of Saddam was a prefunctory handshake. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #3
Kerry was not there giving Assad chemical weapons - as Rumsfeld was with Saddam karynnj Sep 2013 #21
Kerry has been carrying out DIPLOMACY to try and prevent what is currently going on. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #4
Diplomacy isn't usually carried out with spouses at the table. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #5
Yes, it is. The FACTS of matter show the ignorance of many DU'ers. What does diplomacy mean to you? KittyWampus Sep 2013 #6
You can capitalize 'facts' all you like, but you still have none Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #7
Hypocrite. Kerry gets smeared for attempting diplomacy. It says volumes about anyone attempting this KittyWampus Sep 2013 #8
Then so was Rumsfeld, huh? nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #11
Rumsfeld was proven to have been onboard for PNAC. But don't let facts get in the way. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #14
"Rumsfeld made no reference to chemical weapons" ProSense Sep 2013 #22
True -it was expected that the right wing would use this - as they immediately did - karynnj Sep 2013 #26
It was in this case - and Teresa has helped him in other places as well karynnj Sep 2013 #15
State dinners and like events. It happens all the time. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #19
KittyWampus, it seems the ODS bunch is out in full color today, don't understand how gears Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #9
It's so 'diplomatic' to compare Assad to Hitler leftstreet Sep 2013 #10
Had Assad's forces gassed 1000 civilians yet? Your being so uninformed is kind of embarrassing. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #12
Why don't you and Kerry prove Assad did it? n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #17
"Did he have the guts to do that at the dinner table?" ProSense Sep 2013 #13
Where is the evidence Assad launched a chemical attack? leftstreet Sep 2013 #18
Who launched the attacks? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #25
Exactly! Who did it? n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #29
Kerry is responding now to something done in the last 2 weeks karynnj Sep 2013 #27
Um, the picture was from 2009, when John Kerry was Senator Kerry not Secretary Kerry. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #16
Then research John Kerry before posting crap f/ the Telegraph. What Committee was he on? KittyWampus Sep 2013 #23
And was Assad any less of a Dictatorial Thug then? Savannahmann Sep 2013 #28
He was Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ProSense Sep 2013 #24
Wow. Straight from Drudge to DU. JohnnyLib2 Sep 2013 #30
I don't know about Drudge Savannahmann Sep 2013 #31
"A cozy dinner," eh. MineralMan Sep 2013 #32
Actually the excerpt clearly said 2009 Savannahmann Sep 2013 #33
I don't claim you were misled. I claim that you are attempting to mislead. MineralMan Sep 2013 #37
OK, for some reason we're not communicating clearly. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #38
Sitting across the table from someone at MineralMan Sep 2013 #39
Then why did you start off with 2009? Savannahmann Sep 2013 #40
We appear to be moving away from any sensible discussion. MineralMan Sep 2013 #41
hit piece full of speculation.... spanone Sep 2013 #34
BFD. You think you got Kerry? Things fucking change from 2009 Cha Sep 2013 #35
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