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sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
15. very well stated
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

I have a liberal arts B.S. degree from 1981 however I always wanted a B.S. in the science/medical field. The main reason for not having that degree today, the one I really wanted back in the day is due to my math skills which were not up to par.

Tonight i begin my 4th semester as a PT student (I have a full time job and a part time job), this semester I'm taking 7 credits which will be the last of my pre-requisite and remedial classes before I begin to tackle gen chem 1&2 and organic chem 1&2. I hope to take gen chem 1 in the spring 2014 semester and go from there. The short term goal is to get through the 4 semesters of chemistry already mentioned, the long term goal is to earn a B.S. degree in medical technology. I intend to do all of this without taking on any debt.

OK, I take some of the money I earn from my part time job allow me to pay cash for tuition, books and transportation to my local community college. All of my educational expenses including the semester that starts today are paid and I have no debt, and I'm able to pay all of my other living expenses same as before I started this program.

So on the one hand I acknowledge that community college generally only covers the first two years of a 4 year degree and that not everyone can find a community college that is a good academic fit for their future academic plans. However, I feel strongly that going into massive debt and earning some degrees with limited earnings potential are a choice that the student makes and can be considered in many cases a self inflicted wound. In other words, it may not be what you want but rather what is the best possible return for my investment in time and expenses that should guide the student today as far as a college education is concerned. I'm a big fan of first 2 years of community college then off to a state univ.

There are some good opportunities available Downwinder Aug 2013 #1
One can make more money in the trades. Training provided, college too for those who want it. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2
+1 Go Vols Aug 2013 #36
Bingo. I don't understand the stigma of blue collar jobs indie9197 Aug 2013 #55
Yes and no Warpy Aug 2013 #3
I went to Ohio State, Cleveland State and two of the Community Colleges that are WCGreen Aug 2013 #4
very well stated sweetapogee Aug 2013 #15
What I did miss was the dorm experience... WCGreen Aug 2013 #53
this country should educate the young, hollysmom Aug 2013 #5
Not really. My brother does well as an electrician and has no degree Recursion Aug 2013 #6
We should advocate for the idea that EVERYONE who WANTS to go to college should be able uponit7771 Aug 2013 #8
Oh, I totally agree with that. Recursion Aug 2013 #9
True, also my understanding in some states the AC repair person, the electrician, the plumber uponit7771 Aug 2013 #10
The trades though are not easy to get into davidn3600 Aug 2013 #12
Knowing people does help quite a bit Go Vols Aug 2013 #34
Rampant nepotism exists in trade unions taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #40
I agree: a college education should be available to everyone who wants it, at petronius Aug 2013 #23
Amen, I was a master sorefeet Aug 2013 #39
I don't think so, kids now have less choices of college but don't HAVE to go into massive debt uponit7771 Aug 2013 #7
Yep. a la izquierda Aug 2013 #11
No, they don't. They just need to get their priorities straight and have a realistic outlook cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #13
This can't be a serious post on DU? Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #14
Why would someone get an engineering degree if there are no engineering jobs available?? cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #16
That's the spirit! Get something in something. There should be something. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #17
That isn't what I said. I said, get a degree in something where you can get a job. cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #20
You can't be serious... Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #18
What planet are you from exactly, where everyone is entitled to an engineering job cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #19
It isn't entitlement it is being real Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #30
One with a lot of jobs hiring. cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #35
Almost everyone has a degree in business Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #37
"Almost everyone has a degree in business and is unemployed..." hahahahaha, your generalizations cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #42
There are engineering jobs ..... oldhippie Aug 2013 #54
College is archaic at this point. KurtNYC Aug 2013 #21
sending one this year who is looking to get a law degree. have another 3 yrs out. seabeyond Aug 2013 #22
That's nothing compared to medical school debt. Initech Aug 2013 #24
Hell, at many "public" universities, a BA would cost you $25,000 to $35,000 a YEAR Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #25
A new class of indentured servants. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #26
It's their own fault. The kids (including mine) should have chosen richer parents. deurbano Aug 2013 #27
What decent careers? Those are being globalized to benefit the very rich. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #28
We need to demand that our federal and state governments restore funding for both K-12 and liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #29
If the Boomer generation and Millennial generation work Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #31
I agree. We should all be fighting for each other. After all, all young people have older liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #45
What is this topic doing in Greenwald Discussion? Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #32
Haha Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #33
U winz teh Internets KamaAina Aug 2013 #51
Don't do it. nt Deep13 Aug 2013 #38
My friend's daughter wants to be an illustrator. woodsprite Aug 2013 #41
See, this is a good example of the problem..... cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #43
Even more than the individuals, our society, should it survive at all, will be paying the bill Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #44
If they are really lucky taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #46
Better make it a degree worth your while. AppetiteForApathy Aug 2013 #47
Maybe because a degree is an education first taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #48
There's plenty of personal value in it. AppetiteForApathy Aug 2013 #50
Define "decent". lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #49
Having a 4-year degree in the right major, college, class standing, & activities is still impressive FarCenter Aug 2013 #52
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