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Luminous Animal

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31. Yes. He did say that...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:49 PM - Edit history (1)

but clearly Poitras and Greenwald did not know his work history or who he was or where he was getting his info or when he got it. Neither Poitras or Greenwald were active agents in any of Snowden's actions until they received the documents.

So no, there was no conspiracy. It was a source leaking secrets to journalists.

Why characterize it any other way? And why haven't you called for the arrest of Bart Gellman?

7,735 words Kolesar Aug 2013 #1
C'mon. You can do better than that. morningfog Aug 2013 #3
Reading 7735 words is sooooo hard. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #18
And inconvenient when I could be reading about bonds Kolesar Aug 2013 #20
Why? We were told what was in Snowden's garage and there must have been millions of words sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
This section is particularly telling. leveymg Aug 2013 #2
Scary!! This is how they treat people who aren't doing anything wrong once the pop up dkf Aug 2013 #9
If we don't address these issues marions ghost Aug 2013 #21
And she wasn't the only one. Was she on the infamous 'no fly list', and whatever happened to that? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23
She was on another list: the detain and hassle list. leveymg Aug 2013 #29
Absolutely disgusting hueymahl Aug 2013 #52
Agree. Also, KNR to your 7/15 posting re: Blank on Intel chips, microcodes and MS updates. leveymg Aug 2013 #54
Throw her in a cell with Greenwald and Eddie. Conspiracy to steal state secrets is a crime. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #4
That's the worst possible crime there could be in the secret surveillance state. dkf Aug 2013 #14
I suppose you can quote those parts that confirm your allegation. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #16
Snowden said he got the job at Booz to steal secrets. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #28
Yes. He did say that... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #31
I see why you need to cling to that belief. It absolves those you admire of guilt. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #38
So, when are you going to call for the arrest of WaPo's Bart Gellman? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #39
You're missing the sarcasm tag hueymahl Aug 2013 #53
Everyone needs to read this in its entirety. woo me with science Aug 2013 #5
+1000 n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #7
Frightening, disgusting, disturbing. The new normal. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #45
I just finished reading the whole thing. It was rivetting Catherina Aug 2013 #6
Not to worry, Clapper is in charge now!! What could go wrong? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #25
Fantastic article. For those who have exceeded their 10 article NYT limit, mobile link below Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #8
Kick. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #10
K&R marions ghost Aug 2013 #11
Fascinating. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #12
their effort to... expose government surveillance may have condemned them to a lifetime of it. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #13
The United States of America. woo me with science Aug 2013 #24
The government cannot justify this behavior. woo me with science Aug 2013 #15
“I’ve been told nothing, I’ve been asked nothing, and I’ve done nothing ... Laughing Mirror Aug 2013 #17
Uh-oh... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #19
Yes, but Greenwald has turned down money we've found out. I haven't seen any comment on that sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #26
funny the "cashing in" crowd never has a problem with Clinton's six-figure speaking engagements frylock Aug 2013 #34
From a chef to now this, Poitras is an interesting person. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #27
The Libertarian Party of Washington St. used Poitras as a reference: Whisp Aug 2013 #30
If she is a Libertarian Savannahmann Aug 2013 #35
the coincidence of GG, Snow and possibly Poitras being of Libertarian bent Whisp Aug 2013 #36
Ooh scary libertarians. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #40
yes, Ron Paulers are scarey. Whisp Aug 2013 #41
Again I ask the question Savannahmann Aug 2013 #43
beg to differ about the information being accurate! Whisp Aug 2013 #44
Logic at work here. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #46
Nobody cares. It is beside the point. That meme has outlived any usefulness it may have ever had. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #47
Indeed. Some people say.... The new standard for facts. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #37
Well, then, let's forget the illegal spying on Americans. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #50
shows the extreme caution Snowden/Poitras exercised to secure communications. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #32
Quite a read... beevul Aug 2013 #33
Kick. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #42
It's a great piece. n/t DirkGently Aug 2013 #48
Kick woo me with science Aug 2013 #49
k & r. eom wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #51
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