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220. Minor or not...

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Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:36 PM

Aug 2013

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... women who make false rape claims like this not only cause life-changing damage to the persons they accuse, but to a lot of other women who may be afraid to come forward in genuine rape cases.

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Tawana Brawley begins making payments 26 years after rape report [View all] The Straight Story Aug 2013 OP

and this blueknight Aug 2013 #1

not sure if it's just white people dlwickham Aug 2013 #2

This is why the Rev. would not get elected dogcatcher in the city of New York. msanthrope Aug 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #4

Bought and paid for by the man who fomented the Brooks Brother's riot. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #6

I didn't think you were. But that 2004 campaign was a living, breathing msanthrope Aug 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #8

I think Kerry would have been just fine, but you are right about the repsonse to the swiftboating. msanthrope Aug 2013 #14

Kerry did most certainly respond to the Swiftboaters. The Media chose to ignore him. This has been KittyWampus Aug 2013 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #60

A gadfly can be useful. X_Digger Aug 2013 #9

No, This is the EXCUSE a lot of WHITE people have for hating Rev. Sharpton. CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #249

BULLSHIT leftynyc Aug 2013 #268

He should probably help her pay. n/t Fla Dem Aug 2013 #257

I would question the OP's motive for bringing up this subject ...... rdharma Aug 2013 #10

Yep, Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #12

Exactly! rdharma Aug 2013 #16

And which way is the wind blowing on this one? Agschmid Aug 2013 #19

If you feel the need to post that question,....... rdharma Aug 2013 #22

What a waste. Agschmid Aug 2013 #28

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #31

I can't. Agschmid Aug 2013 #33

I'm new here..... but...... rdharma Aug 2013 #34

But what... Agschmid Aug 2013 #40

I'm NOT new here and I can tell you the OP has done this (and little else) Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #24

And in the 9 years you haven't figured out Agschmid Aug 2013 #36

Sometimes people need to be made aware of certain things. Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #42

META is gone. META was a call out paradise. Agschmid Aug 2013 #45

"This is why META was so valuable" Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #46

Here is some META for you... Agschmid Aug 2013 #47

It's a news story... Pelican Aug 2013 #243

Yes you must be new or you would know the SS posts about everything under the sun. dkf Aug 2013 #48

-1 Agschmid Aug 2013 #20

Oh? Why is that? nt rdharma Aug 2013 #23

People should not be called trolls. Agschmid Aug 2013 #26

Who said anything about "trolls"? rdharma Aug 2013 #29

You realize I replied to this post... Agschmid Aug 2013 #32

You did, that's who. You gave a thumbsup to a now hidden post calling the OP a troll. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #61

As usual. Squinch Aug 2013 #209

Yep. His concern is noted. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #82

And he's/she's speaking for "all white people" to demonstrate their disdain for Al Sharpton. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #224

i think this is wrong. she was 15 at the time. i don't think such big judgments against teens HiPointDem Aug 2013 #11

She was a minor? GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #13

i agree, if anyone should be paying restitution, it should be the adults involved. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #35

Sharpton and her lawyers did pay restituion for the defamation. Jenoch Aug 2013 #232

She was not a minor when she didn't show up for trial. You see, she didn't bother to show msanthrope Aug 2013 #55

Like I said, I'm not terribly familiar with the chronology GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #58

She kept repeating that the man was a rapist 10+ years later. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #18

i don't care. she was 15 when it happened, a minor. she should not be having to pay $185K, HiPointDem Aug 2013 #38

She was NOT A MINOR when the defamation trial took place. She didn't show up for it. She lost by msanthrope Aug 2013 #54

Please understand Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #67

They're garnishing from her paycheck. n/t tammywammy Aug 2013 #76

Yes. I took that into consideration. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #108

tawana brawley didn't lie about what happened to become famous or rich, but to avoid being HiPointDem Aug 2013 #99

I didn't mean Brawley Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #105

yet sharpton only had to pay $65K. and johnny cochran paid it for him. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #111

Sharpton, Maddox, and Mason had a sugar daddy pay for them........... Historic NY Aug 2013 #104

Cochran wanted nothing to do with this once ceonupe Aug 2013 #137

I'm not totally familiar with the circumstances GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #41

Yes. Completely bogus. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #59

How did they establish that? GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #63

The grand jury did, there was no evidence of what she said happened tammywammy Aug 2013 #68

That's seems pretty thorough GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #75

The guy who committed suicide YarnAddict Aug 2013 #70

I saw the suicide mentioned in the NYTimes article GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #78

Yes, YarnAddict Aug 2013 #92

How can they know it was completely unrelated? dkf Aug 2013 #115

Findings of the grand jury. YarnAddict Aug 2013 #126

Yes I read that but am skeptical unless he knew nothing about being accused. dkf Aug 2013 #128

His suicide note... tammywammy Aug 2013 #170

One of the accused. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #98

There was no evidence of assault by another person--here's the grand jury report. It's an eye opener msanthrope Aug 2013 #71

the defamation suit was about the events of 1987. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #101

Well, then, I guess I have to agree with this. But I think she's messed up in the head. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #117

She was NOT A MINOR when the defamation trial took place. She didn't show up for it. She lost by msanthrope Aug 2013 #52

I have seen some info that he sued in 1988. boston bean Aug 2013 #83

The trial was in 1998. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #89

Then what gives here, with this argument. boston bean Aug 2013 #100

She was 15 in 1987. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #107

oh, I'm just being dyslexic. I was reading it 88. boston bean Aug 2013 #110

Wait... Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #114

LOL, i can be a dufus sometimes, almost read it wrong again!!! boston bean Aug 2013 #121

She should have fought it treestar Aug 2013 #200

She should have gotten Johnny Cochran to pay it. He paid for Al. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #205

Or get him to defend her! treestar Aug 2013 #206

I think she knew Pagones had her and her mother dead to rights. It was a hoax from the start, but msanthrope Aug 2013 #212

Yeah, though that might have been in her favor treestar Aug 2013 #214

She's living with her mother and stepfather--no way she sells them out. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #218

Wiki says her excuse might have been that treestar Aug 2013 #219

But I think a lighbulb went on in Glenda Brawley's head---how to make money off of this. msanthrope Aug 2013 #226

"We should be millionaires." tammywammy Aug 2013 #227

Indeed. From all the money that rolled in, you have to wonder where it went. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #229

That may have been her excuse Jenoch Aug 2013 #228

No. Since she hasn't said that as an adult treestar Aug 2013 #234

Under the circumstances, did she have any chance of prevailing at trial. branford Aug 2013 #207

That is all possible, too. treestar Aug 2013 #253

Agreed. I don't know how a stupid, immature girl could be found personally financially kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #116

Because she failed to show up for court when she was 25. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #179

Because stupid and immature people are still responsible for their words and actions? nt hack89 Aug 2013 #183

I wonder if this guy Jenoch Aug 2013 #15

Yes--Johnnie Cochran paid it for him. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #261

Yeah, I read that later after I wrote that post. Jenoch Aug 2013 #266

Why the emphasis on this story? rdharma Aug 2013 #17

The Straight Story posts lots of threads tammywammy Aug 2013 #27

Exactly. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #50

I'll agree he post a lot of links. I noted to him one day when he posted about 30 of them in an hour boston bean Aug 2013 #87

i dont know why people here blueknight Aug 2013 #21

I don't know why people here like to bring up RW talking points from years ago! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #25

Please explain the RW talking points. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #39

Why please expand... Agschmid Aug 2013 #43

And what RW talking points would those be .... oldhippie Aug 2013 #64

I have an idea why you are posting nothing but drive-by insults and accusations. arcane1 Aug 2013 #74

Well , then speak! rdharma Aug 2013 #93

You first n/t arcane1 Aug 2013 #122

What right wing talking points? leftynyc Aug 2013 #269

What are the talking points? Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #84

Could you explain what is a Rw talking point in this thread. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #120

This isn't from years ago. NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #245

not in post-racial america? noiretextatique Aug 2013 #260

Some pictures of from back then Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #30

And we've even got pics! rdharma Aug 2013 #37

Please explain yourself Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #44

Let me see if I have this straight. pintobean Aug 2013 #155

A textbook example of "disrupting poorly" arcane1 Aug 2013 #157

I think it's been served before. pintobean Aug 2013 #160

And YOU come out in defense of another RW talking point! rdharma Aug 2013 #158

can you answer the question. What RW talking point? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #159

Straight as an arrow. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #161

Get's your attention every time! rdharma Aug 2013 #163

Yeah well... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #165

Oh, really, do you want to go there, my friend? rdharma Aug 2013 #169

Yes, please. nt pintobean Aug 2013 #171

The words "please proceed" come to mind. arcane1 Aug 2013 #173

And he seems to know me so well. pintobean Aug 2013 #166

I know LOL. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #167

He's no longer allowed to post in the gungeon. tumtum Aug 2013 #190

It's just a matter of time pintobean Aug 2013 #198

He's started his own thread about this subject tumtum Aug 2013 #204

Neither is his buddy pintobean Aug 2013 #210

She was just a minor Politicalboi Aug 2013 #51

She wasn't a minor when she decided to fail to show up to court for the defamation suit. msanthrope Aug 2013 #56

It's about time. What she did was atrocious. badtoworse Aug 2013 #53

And it's over and done with..... why are the RW stooges trying to breath new life into it? rdharma Aug 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #62

Breathing new life into what? badtoworse Aug 2013 #72

Why are you not participating NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #80

What's the discussion? rdharma Aug 2013 #85

No, it was a news story NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #91

The OP felt it was important to stir up old RW shit! rdharma Aug 2013 #95

So you are making empty accusations? NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #97

It was an AP News story published TODAY. Only an idiot would claim otherwise. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #102

BULLSHIT! blueknight Aug 2013 #106

Yup! BS! Names of "young men" even indicted? rdharma Aug 2013 #125

I'll keep bumping this up until leftynyc Aug 2013 #270

You're a clever fellow... The OP posted the story because it was a story in today's news, hughee99 Aug 2013 #123

I didn't call the OP a troll. rdharma Aug 2013 #130

It doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows. n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #139

No, I dare say...... it sure doesn't! rdharma Aug 2013 #140

Nice work. hughee99 Aug 2013 #142

+1 ..nt TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #132

there were some mitigating factors treestar Aug 2013 #203

If she would have fessed Jenoch Aug 2013 #236

Wouldn't she be admitting to a crime and get jail time? GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #237

I was referring to the original Jenoch Aug 2013 #239

But now, if she admitted it, would she get jail time? GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #256

I am not an attorney, Jenoch Aug 2013 #258

OK. GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #259

Day 3 no, but at age 25 when being sued treestar Aug 2013 #238

It is obvious she made it up. Jenoch Aug 2013 #240

no. the suit was in 1989. and in fact, the timeline kind of reeks. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #246

I like the Rev katmondoo Aug 2013 #65

He's an opportunist that made his entire career on this. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #187

Reading about him, he fought hard treestar Aug 2013 #193

I remember this case from when I was a kid here in NY. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #66

Sometimes stuff like this incident is true. Far too often, incidents have been "white" washed. Hoyt Aug 2013 #69

Hope she is taken for every penny she's worth LittleBlue Aug 2013 #73

Now you're just getting vindictive. rdharma Aug 2013 #77

It's my honest opinion about the man LittleBlue Aug 2013 #86

What innocent men would he send to prison? rdharma Aug 2013 #88

Only because the state found out it was a lie LittleBlue Aug 2013 #113

Who was charged? rdharma Aug 2013 #119

No one because the court found the case ceonupe Aug 2013 #144

Duke Lacrosse? Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #150

Because I'm from NC ceonupe Aug 2013 #153

Chill man. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #178

My bad ceonupe Aug 2013 #248

Because what happened was outragous Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #112

Agree. jessie04 Aug 2013 #81

He's far more guilty than she. she was a stupid kid, he was a con-man looking for a Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #189

If she was 15 at the time treestar Aug 2013 #79

Wouldn't her parents be on the hook then? badtoworse Aug 2013 #90

No, I think kids are liable for their torts treestar Aug 2013 #201

The defamation suit was in 1998 n/t tammywammy Aug 2013 #96

and it was about the events of 1987. and actually, pagones' suit against brawley was in 1988. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #103

I did some digging about Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #127

she wasn't being sued for what she said at a rally, she was sued for what happened when she HiPointDem Aug 2013 #141

also: she did not "keep defaming this chap for years afterwards". in fact, the statement at the HiPointDem Aug 2013 #145

She needed to have fought it at least treestar Aug 2013 #192

since when can minors even be *charged* with 'defamation'? HiPointDem Aug 2013 #194

In a civil suit treestar Aug 2013 #199

it's over $400K. she's an lpn, works at a nursing home & lives in an apartment. average lpn HiPointDem Aug 2013 #208

If she's a nurse, she got past some character examination treestar Aug 2013 #213

pagones is on record as saying SwampG8r Aug 2013 #221

that's interesting treestar Aug 2013 #222

i feel SwampG8r Aug 2013 #225

Yeah I'm for cutting some slack treestar Aug 2013 #233

i think she SwampG8r Aug 2013 #235

she was 16 when she was sued for defamation. not 25. she was 25 by the time the damages HiPointDem Aug 2013 #247

Probably once she was 18, they could now count her as defaulting treestar Aug 2013 #252

they hadn't even assessed the damages when she was 18. they didn't do that until after she HiPointDem Aug 2013 #255

Respectfully, it's not that simple. branford Aug 2013 #216

maybe had she shown upnin court Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #129

Whatever his mistakes Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #94

i respect your opinion blueknight Aug 2013 #109

Then why single out Al? Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #118

my agenda is blueknight Aug 2013 #186

Exactly how far back in time Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #211

i never said he was dumb! blueknight Aug 2013 #215

Do you think folks would be trying to stir this up years later...... rdharma Aug 2013 #124

There was an AP story about the fact she has to actually start paying hrmjustin Aug 2013 #131

Really, Sherlock? rdharma Aug 2013 #133

Well than why are you insulting people in this thread? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #134

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. They are just trying to be disruptive. arcane1 Aug 2013 #135

It is a shame. I tend to agree with the posters dislike of guns but this poster was just plain rude hrmjustin Aug 2013 #136

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #146

How dare you! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #147

Wonder who the two were who voted to leave it The Straight Story Aug 2013 #181

You can see it in MIrt. I deleted it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #184

DOH! The Straight Story Aug 2013 #185

Your welcome. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #188

and this post goes along with all your posts against sexism towards women and racism against blacks CreekDog Aug 2013 #264

You keep accusing people of stirring up old news and sufrommich Aug 2013 #138

Hey Red Dharma... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #143

What's with the "Red", my friend? rdharma Aug 2013 #148

Yeeeeshhhh...dunno... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #149

How could I read something into being called "Red"? rdharma Aug 2013 #151

Look, Red, I get it... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #154

There's that RW "Red" thing again! rdharma Aug 2013 #164

Oh, are you still here?... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #217

Today I finally put a senseless member that loved that annoying smiley on ignore cpwm17 Aug 2013 #152

The Tawana Brawley fiasco turned me off to Rev. Al forever. branford Aug 2013 #156

So why are you taking time to dig up the old "dirt"? rdharma Aug 2013 #162

I didn't "dig up old dirt," I simply read a news story. branford Aug 2013 #168

I feel no need, as an attorney, to object to Kevin Zegers marriage to Jaime Feld. rdharma Aug 2013 #172

I could offer a comment about you, but I'm confident that it would violate the TOS. branford Aug 2013 #174

The poster you are talking to can not nrespond to you due to the fact that rdharma post above was hrmjustin Aug 2013 #176

Al Sharpton used to call people 'faggots in public. And he was a huge liar. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #175

Couldn't find a news report with NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #177

Post 170 has a link to the grand jury report. tammywammy Aug 2013 #180

OK, thanks :) n-t NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #182

After reading it NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #191

Sadly is does happen. Exhibit #1 - the Duke Lacross Case. n/t branford Aug 2013 #195

Yeah, and for some reason a lot of these high profile cases seem to go this way. n/t NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #196

I think it is far more likely to happen in a high profile case. branford Aug 2013 #197

This all happened in the area where my family lives... PennsylvaniaMatt Aug 2013 #202

Minor or not... theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #220

That's very true GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #230

well said.. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #241

i lived in ny in 1987 rdking647 Aug 2013 #223

She should be serving time... not paying a fine. HolyMoley Aug 2013 #231

Or.... theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #242

for what crime, exactly? noiretextatique Aug 2013 #262

If she lied these men thewn that would be a crime. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #265

Filing a false report leftynyc Aug 2013 #271

I feel for the people who were affected by this case. NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #244

I hold Al Sharpton responsible. The Link Aug 2013 #250

It's as relevant, as topical, as sincere, and as important in the here and now as LanternWaste Aug 2013 #251

I Believe You Tawana Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #254

i see all the zimmerman apologists are here noiretextatique Aug 2013 #263

Good. It's about time. But she belongs in prison. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #267