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143. You do know about debating people with high post counts, right?

Sun Aug 4, 2013, 03:37 PM

Aug 2013

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President Obama will not meet with Vladimir Putin on Russia trip if no change in Snowden saga [View all] Catherina Aug 2013 OP

Poor Vlad, I'm sure he's heartbroken at this rejection Fumesucker Aug 2013 #1

I really don't get this. They have got to know Putin doesn't really care n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #2

Maybe you shouldn't try to guess what the White House plans from twits twitter tweets struggle4progress Aug 2013 #147

It really does not make a lot of sense does it? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #178

I'll bet he is. He SO wanted a chance to smirk at Obama on the world stage. MADem Aug 2013 #65

These people really don't know their Vlad BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #76

He probably already ordered new shoe lifts, to give him sufficient height for the pictures! MADem Aug 2013 #82

Hey Prezident Obama, "I don't care" Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #3

^^^^There it is^^^^ 99Forever Aug 2013 #5

BHO: "I don't always negotiate, but when I do, it's from a position of weak helplessness." elehhhhna Aug 2013 #18

I laughed at this one, because, sadly... MattSh Aug 2013 #94

lol! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #131

*bwah!* Hydra Aug 2013 #153

Do you base all your opinions based on "news" from Twitter? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #166

Why yes, I do! elehhhhna Aug 2013 #179

I just wanted to make sure readers knew your opinions were based on what you read on Twitter struggle4progress Aug 2013 #180

Eff off. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #186

Poor diplomancy by the WH, why insult Putin when there needs to be more dialogue? PufPuf23 Aug 2013 #4

My first reaction, as well. eom Fawke Em Aug 2013 #55

It's very embarrassing that foreign relations have been reduced to something that resembles Dragonfli Aug 2013 #97

Ridiculous silly temper tantrum. The elite is just wrong on this on point Aug 2013 #6

Totally wrong. They should read less American Enterprise & Heritage and more Chomsky, Pepe Escobar Catherina Aug 2013 #7

Obama needs to get over it. Gman Aug 2013 #8

Instead all the WRONG people are being listened to. Now Schumer and the G-20 Catherina Aug 2013 #10

He needs to Move Forward. nt. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #21

"I'm going to give you another opportunity to humiliate me on the international stage." winter is coming Aug 2013 #9

'Legally, D.C. is now as powerless as a tribal Pashtun girl facing an incoming Hellfire missile' Catherina Aug 2013 #12

The world will be rooting for Putin. tblue Aug 2013 #47

Well said! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #63

So, you think a Republican would take that principled stand? MADem Aug 2013 #71

Can you even read? There was no talk of republicans, I swear this place sounds like kindergarten Dragonfli Aug 2013 #103

I can read--you want a leader that isn't like Obama, and his antithesis is a Republican. MADem Aug 2013 #109

Again where did you read any of that in my post you are responding to? Can YOU READ? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #121

You're right--I wasn't even TALKING to you in the first place--you injected yourself into a MADem Aug 2013 #125

Really disidoro01 Aug 2013 #140

You want your leaders to plot regime change overseas? Whatever.... MADem Aug 2013 #151

Whoops disidoro01 Aug 2013 #157

President Obama's antithesis is not a Republican Hydra Aug 2013 #154

Well, you might think that, but that's not the candidate that is going to appear as the opposition MADem Aug 2013 #155

I'm aware of that Hydra Aug 2013 #156

Well, if that's how you want to see it, go ahead. I happen to like the Democratic platform and MADem Aug 2013 #161

Even when elected candidates immediately chuck the Democratic platform truebluegreen Aug 2013 #164

I took that "positions of import" to mean that they support National Security state or Reaganomics. Hydra Aug 2013 #172

Egzactly...nt truebluegreen Aug 2013 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Aug 2013 #192

Did I say that? tblue Aug 2013 #190

You suggested it. I happen to like the wise and principled leader we have now. nt MADem Aug 2013 #191

Who? tblue Aug 2013 #193

truefact elehhhhna Aug 2013 #14

No birthday cake either! rug Aug 2013 #11

I'm holding out for 'no US supply lines in Afghanistan' in response Catherina Aug 2013 #20

LOL n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2013 #183

Good to see the adults in charge. Bush and crew would have started a pissing match. Autumn Aug 2013 #13

Putin would steal Obama's bday gifts Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #15

Wow, unbelievably poor behavior AppleBottom Aug 2013 #16

Well, he's NOT speaking with him, thus no preconditions. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #19

It just seems to me that Americas image just keeps moving further down the ladder. nt. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #29

If no change? Then assure safe passage to a Broward Aug 2013 #17

He's guaranteed to look stupid again. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #22

Who's advising this guy? elehhhhna Aug 2013 #24

Ah yes, a pudding match is much better. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #23

Wow greytdemocrat Aug 2013 #25

Can i assume it's MTP and FTN who are making it sound conditional? allin99 Aug 2013 #26

I can't find the exact quotes. I'm watching Schumer on FTN right now. Terror, terror, terror Catherina Aug 2013 #35

Dear Lord fredamae Aug 2013 #27

It's not just you, this has been going on all week Catherina Aug 2013 #36

Nah, we all heard it. nt matthews Aug 2013 #150

What I read in the OP's OP, is immaturity. RC Aug 2013 #28

This ^^^. More competent people please. n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #38

When he said all this spying stuff was to make sure there was no one else Rex Aug 2013 #126

Is he taking Vladamir off his Valentine's Day card list? Gonna stick his tongue out at him? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #30

Let's get the cold war cranking again. mick063 Aug 2013 #31

As long as we have cold war warriors like Schumer and McCain around you can bet on it Catherina Aug 2013 #45

Yes mick063 Aug 2013 #54

I hope this story will be *corrected* by the State Department on Monday. Catherina Aug 2013 #80

The profiteers will be licking their chops for $$$$$ 'cause the Russians are gonna get us. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #78

That will show him. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #32

Oh great. MuseRider Aug 2013 #33

Would rather the headline had mentioned gay rights. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #34

I know, right? tblue Aug 2013 #41

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #74

Putin will be deprived of Obama's empty speeches and fake smiles LittleBlue Aug 2013 #37

That is gonna leave a mark mick063 Aug 2013 #48

empty speeches and fake smiles..that's the part that is so baffling xiamiam Aug 2013 #50

How childish. I doubt Putin cares which makes it even more childish. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #39

like heaven05 Aug 2013 #40

I love the reaction ProSense Aug 2013 #42

This thread has many people who've twisted themselves treestar Aug 2013 #46

'Merika mick063 Aug 2013 #49

They used that argument at a point where I did not agree treestar Aug 2013 #53

Quite a jump there mick063 Aug 2013 #56

You have rights to order me out due to being a veteran? treestar Aug 2013 #64

What a crock of shit mick063 Aug 2013 #68

No response, due to the fact I've hit a nerve treestar Aug 2013 #70

Yes mick063 Aug 2013 #77

So have you. Very revealing, indeed. nt MADem Aug 2013 #83

And proud of it mick063 Aug 2013 #87

You think that your claim to be a "veteran" makes your (lack of) argument more convincing. MADem Aug 2013 #93

Yes mick063 Aug 2013 #99

My "argument" is that your claim to have military service to buttress your argument is bogus. MADem Aug 2013 #104

Your focus is on trivial bullshit then, if I understand you correctly. mick063 Aug 2013 #115

So, it's "trivial bullshit" to make, as your argument, the fact that you must be right because you MADem Aug 2013 #136

You repeatedly bring up the topic of my military service mick063 Aug 2013 #137

You hung your argument on it. Maybe next time, you won't. MADem Aug 2013 #141

You do know about debating people with high post counts, right? bahrbearian Aug 2013 #143

I let the thread speak for itself. mick063 Aug 2013 #145

+1000. MADem Aug 2013 #79

I belong to the old Democratic Party mick063 Aug 2013 #92

I'm not sufficiently interested in you to "dig up" anything, never mind stuff you in a Hall of Fame. MADem Aug 2013 #101

I know one thing for sure. mick063 Aug 2013 #113

Good for you. Pat yourself on the back. Feel terribly smug, too! Have a nice day!! MADem Aug 2013 #117

You staunchly defend the person that chose to do so. mick063 Aug 2013 #119

You keep telling us that your military service makes you right, and falsely accuse me of telling you MADem Aug 2013 #123

Nobody is John2 Aug 2013 #108

"America, Love it or Leave it"? I remember hearing that before. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #51

There is a point where it is so treestar Aug 2013 #57

Rooting for Al Qaeda? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #61

And I introduced a point where treestar Aug 2013 #67

What does Al Queda have to do with it? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #75

Well, the guy who jails girl groups, who has a brutal anti-equality policy, and who kisses fish MADem Aug 2013 #89

Take your exclusive crap and shove it. mick063 Aug 2013 #62

Now I've hit a nerve! treestar Aug 2013 #69

My god mick063 Aug 2013 #73

You haven't said anything of consequence. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #110

Your too funny! here are the results of your alert. bahrbearian Aug 2013 #139

Amazing isn't it. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #116

Just reading the posts I feel like I'm walking across an earthquake prone minefield! RKP5637 Aug 2013 #171

Threads like this are the reason these people are on DU Number23 Aug 2013 #169

Where were all these proponents of "adult behavior" when Vlad kept Kerry waiting BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #58

Transparent. ProSense Aug 2013 #66

Because on this date, when the President stands up Putin, Putin will revoke Snowden's asylum? rug Aug 2013 #148

That's an excellent question. I wouldn't hold my breath to get answers from 'em, though. nt MADem Aug 2013 #135

Shunning is a hell of a sanction. rug Aug 2013 #146

Huh. You'd think they'd be more upset about Russia crushing LGBT folks under its fascist bootheels. Zorra Aug 2013 #43

+1 wtmusic Aug 2013 #60

You'd think that, if the USA was concerned with human rights. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #95

K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #173

we need a grown up to advise him..this is just embarrassing and childish..nt xiamiam Aug 2013 #44

It's time for Putin to show off his Super Bowl ring. JVS Aug 2013 #52

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #59

SO NYAHHHH! QC Aug 2013 #72

Lmao!! this pic is priceless! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #91

idiotic move, if true. Maybe the Prez just doesn't feel like meeting with Putin and is using this as magical thyme Aug 2013 #81

Why is it "idiotic"? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #86

I highly doubt Putin will change his policy toward Snowden in order to placate the Prez. magical thyme Aug 2013 #96

You're ProSense Aug 2013 #100

trading and placating are two different scenarios. magical thyme Aug 2013 #107

And that would make a difference? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #118

what would make a difference? I don't think Putin will renege on his deal with Snowden magical thyme Aug 2013 #138

A few days ago, I read an insider saying he wouldn't go see him Catherina Aug 2013 #88

Idiotic move by Obama, or whoever the real decider is. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #84

"Turning the case of a criminal fugitive into an international diplomatic crisis for no reason." ProSense Aug 2013 #90

criminal fugitive only in their own minds... magical thyme Aug 2013 #102

"Seems you stated the reason" limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #105

Why ProSense Aug 2013 #122

Because there are lots of more dangerous criminals on the loose than Snowden. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #128

That has nothing to do with the situation, and it's your opinion. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #129

Well that's your opinion. nt limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #134

And void of negotiation skills. Putin was just given the upper hand IMO. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #106

An Obama Temper Tantrum - Rather Childish And Rather Unusual cantbeserious Aug 2013 #85

Too petulant PDittie Aug 2013 #98

Keeping ones word would be a show of confidence though no? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2013 #114

Who says he is canceling the meeting? former9thward Aug 2013 #175

No real clue Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2013 #188

Has President Obama considered holding his breath until Putin gives in? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #111

These naive and childish attacks on the President are amusing. tritsofme Aug 2013 #112

I doubt Putin cares. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #120

Perhaps, but he sure would have gotten a message of weakness. tritsofme Aug 2013 #127

I disagree. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #130

Well if Putin doesn't care, it should be NBD. tritsofme Aug 2013 #132

Of course it's the right response. Why do you think so many here are saying the complete Number23 Aug 2013 #170

Then why go? Rex Aug 2013 #124

A Putin vs. Obama popularity contest on the world stage. gulliver Aug 2013 #133

The madder we seem, the weaker it looks. Churlish & ineffectual. DirkGently Aug 2013 #142

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 8/1/2013 struggle4progress Aug 2013 #144

It is the G-20 disidoro01 Aug 2013 #149

What's your evidence the US won't go to the G20, aside from some twits twitter tweets? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #158

What the disidoro01 Aug 2013 #159

The claims in the OP regarding the President all come from Twitter. Speculating struggle4progress Aug 2013 #165

no disidoro01 Aug 2013 #174

There's currently no chance the US will skip the G20: struggle4progress Aug 2013 #177

Could you disidoro01 Aug 2013 #189

Obama Turbineguy Aug 2013 #152

The 1% tell him he must stand his ground. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #162

The Snowden argument is childish; he shouldn't meet with Putin because of Stalin! reusrename Aug 2013 #160

Ok, now I'm laughing lol Catherina Aug 2013 #167

Am I to take it that no one cares that this is someone's totally unsubstantiated conjecture? bornskeptic Aug 2013 #163

Please... Scurrilous Aug 2013 #187

Just updated the OP to add the video link Catherina Aug 2013 #168

OP IS INCORRECT tman Aug 2013 #181

That's exactly what the tweet says lol! Catherina Aug 2013 #182

Now read your thread title... tman Aug 2013 #184

I'm sorry you have trouble understanding n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #185