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In reply to the discussion: Guardian's former Moscow correspondent on "Russia’s treatment of its own whistle-blowers" (updated) [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)17. Who are the whistleblowers who the US jails "indefinitely" and "tortures" in custody?
"Man, what savages those Russians are."
No they just "executes whistleblowers."
Russias treatment of its own whistle-blowers, meanwhile, is grim and awful. (Think Anna Politkovskaya, shot dead in Moscow in 2006, or Natalia Estemirova, kidnapped in Chechnyas capital Grozny in 2009 and murdered.) Last month (July 11) Sergei Magnitsky, a lawyer who exposed massive interior ministry fraud, was himself convicted of crimes. Magnitsky was an unusual defendant: he was already dead.
Aparently, that's not as as bad as the U.S. treatment in your eyes. Which U.S. whistleblowers are you referring?
Hes in for a pretty overwhelming investigation, Tamm, now a criminal defense attorney in Rockville, Md., told POLITICO in an interview. I think the government will use a lot of their resources to try to find him.
But if Snowden is returned to the United States, Tamm said, I think with the right representation, and with the right way of presenting what he did, I think hell be able to put his life back together. Tamm says hed even be willing to be part of the defense team.
But if Snowden is returned to the United States, Tamm said, I think with the right representation, and with the right way of presenting what he did, I think hell be able to put his life back together. Tamm says hed even be willing to be part of the defense team.
William Binney, Thomas Drake, and Thomas Tamm are whistleblowers who stayed and faced the consequences for their actions. They were not persecuted, they faced prosecution. They are not in jail.
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ProSense
Aug 2013
OP
I'm grateful I'm living in a country where Obama is President as opposed to Putin's Russia
Cha
Aug 2013
#63
If Snowden was Russian and had exposed a massive Russian surveillance network
Uncle Joe
Aug 2013
#72
I agree, Putin did make the big catch and it just goes to show you what a sad state of affairs it is
Uncle Joe
Aug 2013
#77
You can call it self serving if you will and I would agree with you but perception is everything
Uncle Joe
Aug 2013
#79
Russia executes whistleblowers, the US jails them indefinitely, tortures them in custody,
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#16
Who are the whistleblowers who the US jails "indefinitely" and "tortures" in custody?
ProSense
Aug 2013
#17
Yes, you did. You made a snarky remark as if to imply: So, the U.S. does this....n/t
ProSense
Aug 2013
#29
Oh for God's sake, just tell her/him nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah, nyah - tag. You're it.
matthews
Aug 2013
#59
He'll come back when the horror that is Rand Paul is elected. Expect confetti and swooning...
freshwest
Aug 2013
#30
The piece in the OP is from today, and the administration position is not new.
ProSense
Aug 2013
#28
the u.s. reaction could have been anything. they made a statement on todays asylum...
allin99
Aug 2013
#31
I'm taking the mickey of you and your cohort's breathless denunciation of books
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#43
OK. So there were murders, but you're just "taking the mickey" on a false equivalency.
ProSense
Aug 2013
#44
'Guardian reporter writes a book'='Guardian reporter writes a book' is a 'false equivalency'?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#45
Yes, the book has nothing to do with the current report, and the situations aren't remotely similar.
ProSense
Aug 2013
#46
The book is about the title of your thread, and by the man you describe in your title
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#47
They've gone the free market paradise road. Just what the Libertarians want here. He'll do fine.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#66
Good post. Snowden choosing Russia is equivalent to a person choosing Satan as safe
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#69