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ProSense

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Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:13 PM Aug 2013

Guardian's former Moscow correspondent on "Russia’s treatment of its own whistle-blowers" (updated) [View all]

Last edited Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Vladimir Putin’s decision to grant Snowden asylum is a "humiliating, wounding rebuff to America's attempts to 'reset' relations with Russia", writes my colleague Luke Harding, former Moscow correspondent for the Guardian:

In theory Snowden has been allowed to stay for one year. In reality he is learning Russian and ploughing his way through Doystoyevsky. Snowden’s stay in Russia could be indefinite.

Among other things, the Snowden story has exposed the impotence of twenty-first century US power. With no US-Russia extradition treaty there is little the White House can do to winkle Snowden out. It can, of course, express displeasure. Obama is likely to cancel a trip in September to Saint Petersburg for Russia’s forthcoming G20 summit.

The irony, as Senator John McCain was quick to point out, is that Moscow’s record on human rights and freedom of speech is far worse than Washington’s. While Snowden was stuck at the airport, the opposition leader Alexei Navalny got five years in jail. (Navalny was promptly bailed following his provincial show trial, apparently amid Kremlin in-fighting.)

Since returning for a third time as president, Putin has moved to crush mass protests against his rule. They began in late 2011-2012. He has introduced a series of repressive new laws against human rights organisations, selectively arrested leading critics, and jailed the feminist punk combo Pussy Riot.

Russia’s treatment of its own whistle-blowers, meanwhile, is grim and awful. (Think Anna Politkovskaya, shot dead in Moscow in 2006, or Natalia Estemirova, kidnapped in Chechnya’s capital Grozny in 2009 and murdered.) Last month (July 11) Sergei Magnitsky, a lawyer who exposed massive interior ministry fraud, was himself convicted of crimes. Magnitsky was an unusual defendant: he was already dead.

Luke has plenty of experience of the intricacies of being allowed, or not being allowed, into Russia. It's worth reading his full piece, which will be published shortly.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/edward-snowden-leaves-moscow-airport-live#block-51fa8f4be4b09fe7db8e242d

From the link embedded at the original, a 2011 report:

Guardian's Moscow correspondent expelled from Russia

Luke Harding's removal thought to be the first of a British staff journalist from the country since end of cold war

Dan Sabbagh

The Guardian's Moscow correspondent has been expelled from Russia, in what is believed to be the first removal of a British staff journalist from the country since the end of the cold war.

Luke Harding's forced departure comes after the newspaper's reporting of the WikiLeaks cables, where he reported on allegations that Russia under the rule of Vladimir Putin had become a "virtual mafia state".

The journalist flew back to Moscow at the weekend after a two-month stint reporting on the contents of the leaked US diplomatic cables from London, but was refused entry when his passport was checked on his arrival.

After spending 45 minutes in an airport cell, he was sent back to the UK on the first available plane – with his visa annulled and his passport only returned to him after taking his seat. Harding was given no specific reason for the decision, although an airport security official working for the Federal Border Service, an arm of the FSB intelligence agency, told him: "For you Russia is closed."

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/feb/07/guardian-moscow-correspondent-expelled-from-russia

Updated to add:

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Lyudmila Alexeyeva, a veteran of Russia's human rights movement and head of the respected Moscow Helsinki Group, welcomed the news on asylum for Snowden, but added that his quest for freedom of information has landed him in a country that has little respect for that and other freedoms.

"Having fought for the freedom and rights, Snowden has ended up in a country that cracks down on them," Alexeyeva said, according to the Interfax news agency.

Rachel Denber of Human Rights Watch sounded a similar note. "He cannot but be aware of the unprecedented crackdown on human rights that the government has unleashed in the past 15 months," Denber said in an e-mailed comment.

Putin has launched a wide-ranging crackdown on dissent since his inauguration for a third presidential term in May 2012, with the Kremlin-controlled parliament stamping a series of laws that introduced heavy fines for participants in unsanctioned protests, imposed new tough restrictions on non-government organizations.

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http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-leaves-airport-russia-grants-154431899.html

Fugitive Snowden slips out of Moscow airport for 'secure' base (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023384887

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After reading that I realized we should shred the 4th Amendment. Wilms Aug 2013 #1
I read it and that never came to my mind. ProSense Aug 2013 #2
Russia's treatment of gays stinks... Wilms Aug 2013 #5
What about Russia whistleblowers? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #6
This is just sad. reformist2 Aug 2013 #23
Yes, it's horribly "sad" about the Human Rights Violations in Russia Cha Aug 2013 #52
They will be safe here so long as they don't whistle-blow against the U.S. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #39
We are. Russia has a long list of Human Rights abuses. Cha Aug 2013 #49
So do we. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #50
Stack them up against Russia's. I'll take Cha Aug 2013 #53
Never said they did not have huge issues. We have a very bloody history Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #54
Russia has many more.. Cha Aug 2013 #56
I could respond with an equal number of links Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #62
I'm grateful I'm living in a country where Obama is President as opposed to Putin's Russia Cha Aug 2013 #63
As I said, I could match you link for link Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #64
I know you keep saying that like you're broken recording... And, I know this.. Cha Aug 2013 #65
If Snowden was Russian and had exposed a massive Russian surveillance network Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #72
If we did or didn't.. I think putin would try to make sure Cha Aug 2013 #73
Snowden is not plotting against the U.S. whether Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #74
If snowden's giving secrets from his laptop to Russia then Cha Aug 2013 #75
I agree, Putin did make the big catch and it just goes to show you what a sad state of affairs it is Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #77
I doubt Russia is taking any "high road". Cha Aug 2013 #78
You can call it self serving if you will and I would agree with you but perception is everything Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #79
Fucking hypocrites. Cha Aug 2013 #80
Human rights activists stand for many issues they will applaud Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #81
Pro, Infowars loves Putin. It's a libertarian thing, you wouldn't get it. freshwest Aug 2013 #10
So let him go to Bolivia or Venezuela. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #3
Thanks ProSense. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #4
vladimir putin UglyGreed Aug 2013 #7
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #8
The irony is thick. n/t AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #9
Yup. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #15
Yes it is. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #51
Well fuck, if Russia isn't nice to its own whistleblowers LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #11
Actually, thank you for sharing your thought process. ProSense Aug 2013 #12
All your hardwork has won me over LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #13
Don't blame me for your thinking. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #14
You're a lucky gal, Pro. You have such innnnteresting fans. Number23 Aug 2013 #61
Russia executes whistleblowers, the US jails them indefinitely, tortures them in custody, NuclearDem Aug 2013 #16
Who are the whistleblowers who the US jails "indefinitely" and "tortures" in custody? ProSense Aug 2013 #17
You clearly didn't follow the Manning trial. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #21
I did, and you said "them" ProSense Aug 2013 #25
Oh stop it. Just stop it. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #26
Yes, you did. You made a snarky remark as if to imply: So, the U.S. does this....n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #29
Oh for God's sake, just tell her/him nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah, nyah - tag. You're it. matthews Aug 2013 #59
Prosense, where should Snowden seek asylum? The Corrector Aug 2013 #18
LOL! "What's your suggestion?" Here: ProSense Aug 2013 #19
Does the US Government consider him a hero? The Corrector Aug 2013 #24
You weren't happy with my "suggestion"? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #32
Confused, not happy or unhappy The Corrector Aug 2013 #40
He isn't subject to military justice. He is a civilian. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #57
Corrected The Corrector pintobean Aug 2013 #71
He'll come back when the horror that is Rand Paul is elected. Expect confetti and swooning... freshwest Aug 2013 #30
No one here cares about Ron Paul for cripes sake. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #55
Corrected by MIRT pintobean Aug 2013 #84
We all know this 1,000 times already. and we all know.. allin99 Aug 2013 #20
We also know ProSense Aug 2013 #22
which happened...*today*, not weeks now... allin99 Aug 2013 #27
The piece in the OP is from today, and the administration position is not new. ProSense Aug 2013 #28
the u.s. reaction could have been anything. they made a statement on todays asylum... allin99 Aug 2013 #31
That ProSense Aug 2013 #33
it's just weird that you post the exact same thing... allin99 Aug 2013 #34
What ProSense Aug 2013 #36
there's nowhere else for him to go. allin99 Aug 2013 #37
So, what does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #38
If Snowden lives happily ever after in Russia then he worked for them DevonRex Aug 2013 #35
Beware: Harding wrote a book about it after reporting it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #41
So there were no murders? ProSense Aug 2013 #42
I'm taking the mickey of you and your cohort's breathless denunciation of books muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #43
OK. So there were murders, but you're just "taking the mickey" on a false equivalency. ProSense Aug 2013 #44
'Guardian reporter writes a book'='Guardian reporter writes a book' is a 'false equivalency'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #45
Yes, the book has nothing to do with the current report, and the situations aren't remotely similar. ProSense Aug 2013 #46
The book is about the title of your thread, and by the man you describe in your title muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #47
Irony Alert.. Cha Aug 2013 #48
Gays had better stay away from Russia in 2014 or they'll be arrested: freshwest Aug 2013 #58
yeah, that's a freakng red flag right there. Something's Cha Aug 2013 #60
They've gone the free market paradise road. Just what the Libertarians want here. He'll do fine. freshwest Aug 2013 #66
Oh yeah, Mr "Ron Paul is dreamy" will do just fine. Nostrovia Putin puppet. Cha Aug 2013 #67
Well, AJ and RP heart Putin, so what's not to like, LOL. freshwest Aug 2013 #68
Good post. Snowden choosing Russia is equivalent to a person choosing Satan as safe bluestate10 Aug 2013 #69
Poor Eddie sheshe2 Aug 2013 #70
"In the end".. you're nothing but a hacker/leaker who scuttled off to Cha Aug 2013 #83
how does the united states treat russian whistleblowers? SwampG8r Aug 2013 #76
Pussy Riot ~ Putin Lights Up The Fires Zorra Aug 2013 #82
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